Irish stock for trainz?

[SamFarnon]

Hi.

I've been looking at the Download station and I've noticed there is no irish stock apart from narrow gauge locos. Though what i look for are IE Class 201s, DART 81/8300 series, Dart 8500 series etc. Any chance anyone could post some of em on the download station (i cant do it, i dont know how to work gmax XD)

Regards

Sam Farnon

 

[pfx]

I'm guessing you may be new to Trainz so welcome if so.

I'm currently doing reskins of existing assets in NIR livery as there is hardly a thing available for either side of the border. I would suggest you find something that looks as close as possible to what you want and try reskinning it. There are free programs (Paint.NET, GIMP) which you can use to do this and if you do a search for reskinning, there are links to tutorials on how to do so. I'm sorry I don't know the links myself.

The only item I know of that is IÉ specific is a Mk3 BREL Intercity coach. The name of the asset is IRISH RAIL BREL and its KUID is 45317:996201:1

I would offer to do some reskinning for you but I only have TRS2009 now so you wouldn't be able to use anything I did although there is a fake NIR CAF unit I did which is 06 compatible.

I would suggest that a UK Class 158 would make a good substitute for the IÉ class 2700/2750 for a start. Not sure what would make a good DART...

 

[BOYDRAIL]

Working on it

I am doing TGV DARTS + HST125 Commuters+Intercity. I will get them in DLS ASAP so just wait and hope you enjoy.

P.S. I saw other Irish Stock there eg.Old Irish Trains which I got, look at them, hope its useful.

 

[Vern]

Would be nice, there's more than a few Irish routes that would be worth seeing in Trainz, but without the correct rolling stock (in my case a 121/141/181 and Cravens coaches) it would kind of diminish things.

 

[rjhowie]

I have amongst NIR stock an Irish Rail loco downloaded from the DLS. As pfx says he is producing NIR items which will compliment what i am presently doing. I may be digressing from my own thread but to answer the starter's point I happen to be doing the whole of the NIR system in Ulster set in the present day. This covers Belfast-Larne, Belfast-Bangor, Belfast-Newry, Belfast-Londonderry, Coleraine-Portrush and the mothballed Crumlin Line. In time the border line will be taken beyond there across the Border and hopefully to Dublin.

To date I have completed two lines -Belfast-Bangor and Belfast-Newry and the track and stations done for the Crumlin line with scenery to do). Some basic stuff is down north of Belfast too.

There is a Northern Irish contribution from an earlier time called Along UTA Lines set in steam days and before station closures, etc. This covers the Londoderry, Portrush and Larne routes. I also have a website for the NIR project but badly overdue for updating!

 

[pfx]

Would be nice, there's more than a few Irish routes that would be worth seeing in Trainz, but without the correct rolling stock (in my case a 121/141/181 and Cravens coaches) it would kind of diminish things.

Don't hold your breath Vern, I've been looking for something that is even similar to those locos which I would be able to reskin. Nobody seems to have any suggestions as to a suitable, yet similar, alternative. I was within a hair's width of downloading GMAX the other day but I just don't think I have the time right now to learn how to use it and then create a loco to boot. Reskins take long enough as it is.

In any threads I've posted before, there appears to be little or no interest in IÉ or NIR which is why I've never really got stuck in to it beyond a few reskins. Perhaps if I knew the demand was there, I would drop route-building and reskinning and maybe try to find my way round GMAX before taking on some of these items.

Here are a few options that might be considered for reskins.

BR MkIs as Craven substitute.
BR MkIIs reskinned in IÉ livery.
BR Class 20 as IÉ Class 121/401 hybrid.
BR Class 08 as IÉ Class 301.
BR Class 33 as IÉ Class 001 (A).
BR Class 52 as NIR Class 101.
BR Class 67 as IÉ/NIR Class 201/208.

I'm open to other suggestions here of course.

 

[SamFarnon]

Would it not be possible to create them from scratch? I.e for the DART 81/8300 and 85/8600s?

 

[NikkiA]

BR Class 20 as IÉ Class 121/401 hybrid.
...

I'm open to other suggestions here of course.

I'd suggest getting someone that's made a SW900 to modify their mesh. Since the 121 is literally just a EMD SW900 with minor cosmetic differences (removal of the exhaust cone and of the steps/railings on the back of the cab, leaving a flat cab face).

There should be enough SW900s around that someone will be willing to spend the 15-20 minutes to make the basic model for you to reskin into CIE colours.

 

[pfx]

I'd suggest getting someone that's made a SW900 to modify their mesh. Since the 121 is literally just a EMD SW900 with minor cosmetic differences (removal of the exhaust cone and of the steps/railings on the back of the cab, leaving a flat cab face).

There should be enough SW900s around that someone will be willing to spend the 15-20 minutes to make the basic model for you to reskin into CIE colours.

I had asked for alternatives before but nobody made any suggestions. As I am unfamiliar with US locos, I couldn't find what I needed. It's a good plan but as I think US gauge is a lot wider than UK and Irish stock, it may mean that the whole thing would have to be re-worked. I'll take a look into it though. Edit - I couldn't find one of these on the DLS.

I would imagine the most 'desirable' loco would be the 071, 141 or 181. It would certainly top my list as a few are still in service to this day with IÉ and NIR (the 181s having been withdrawn I think).

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[tdstead]

More info

There is the
CIE J35 Steam engine
NIR MED Railcars & dummy railcar on DLS
UTA Railcar Green
UTA Green coach & brake coach
There is a couple of coaches in CIE livery
There was a loco that did look like a 33 in irish livery but can't find it now
There is still a 50 class in CIE livery
some goods wagons

Search dls with UTA, CIE, NIR, Irish & Ireland for both title and description with all sims ticked down to 2004

Yes Really liked driving the 121's in MSTS, hopefully in all those livery's

Tom

 

[SamFarnon]

There is the
CIE J35 Steam engine
NIR MED Railcars & dummy railcar on DLS
UTA Railcar Green
UTA Green coach & brake coach
There is a couple of coaches in CIE livery
There was a loco that did look like a 33 in irish livery but can't find it now
There is still a 50 class in CIE livery
some goods wagons

Search dls with UTA, CIE, NIR, Irish & Ireland for both title and description with all sims ticked down to 2004

Yes Really liked driving the 121's in MSTS, hopefully in all those livery's

Tom

Yes but why no darts?

 

[pfx]

Alas, there is hardly anything modern at all for both operators. If you can find something that is similar, I could reskin it in DART livery for you as long as the creator is okay with that and you don't mind running non-prototype stock.

I'm having an attempt at reskinning a BR Class 58 in IÉ livery. It's not great but it would pass until I get up to speed with Blender in a year of so (finally took the plunge and downloaded it)!!! I'll see if I can get permission from the original creator to upload it if I get an acceptable result.

 

[nexusdj]

Folks I have this reskin of Peter Hicks Mk2 on my Hard drive :

I also have an almost complete set of Mk3's in IE colours that was originally on my Skodatrainz website . These include amongst others :

Apart from the reskin of Peters Mk2 , the Mk3's are a basic texture on a flat shell (no interior , windows or opening doors etc) I can upload these to the DLS if your interested ?

 

[rjhowie]

They look great.

As I said, because of a lack of anything re across the Irish Sea and having had many happy jaunts across to Belfast and beyond I decided to have a go at the NIR routes. I was aware that that area tends to be the kind of poor relation in Trainz but I hope in time when I am done the modern situation of the little that is left in Ulster will at least grace Trainz and in a modern setting. I will also in time again as the last piece to try and see if I can include the line all the way over the Border and down to Dublin thus allowing Enterprise Expresses to run or the IE stock along with NIR.

What I have appreciated is pfx's contribution producing something in NIR livery. The fact that I started this project no doubt encouraged that and then another "Trainzer" who did buses in Ulsterbus livery. These will look a bit more like the thing at the depots beside rail stations on the NIR. My Extension down to Dublin may not be as detailed as the rest of my northern sojourns but might then allow perhaps the addition of part of the DART which hives off to the north of Dublin on the Belfast-Dublin Line? I have now switched to doing between Mossley West-Antrim Junction and Ballymena for a change of scenery whilst dabbling a bit on the Larne route.

The Lisburn-Crumlin-Antrim is awkward as is not always handy for a nearby road when I was over for a few days so there has to be some perception. I have the whole line down and the three small shut stations at Ballinderry, Glenavy and Crumlin. It is a line with hardly any pictorial stuff I can fall back on. Scenery to be caught up with.

I am doing what I can living across the water so to speak but at least something route-wise is happening. Perhaps further on it may be a basis for anyone who wants to add any southern route or routes? Maybe an Enterpise Express might appear on Trainz once there is somewhere to run it?!

 

[rwk]

Is Ireland two separate countries each with their own governments, like N Korea and S Korea? Northern Ireland is part of the UK, then what is Republic of Ireland? It's own sovereign nation? Why does the Irish Rail have a funny name, Iarnrod Éireann? Also, Ireland converted to metric-they use km/h instead of mph on roads. Does UK still use miles like the US? I found it funny going into Canada summer 2006, we went to 1000 Islands, Toronto, and Niagara Falls and seeing 100 km/h speed signs on the highway. Sounds fast, like the Autobahn, but it's not. It's equivalent to about 62 mph. As soon as you cross the border from New York to Ontario, after being cleared by Canadian Immigration, you see the first km/h sign. var geo_Partner = 'e4f5c72a-6083-499d-94f4-929aa4d23e06'; var geo_isCG = true;

 

[pfx]

@ rwk - The two parts of Ireland are indeed governed by seperate elected legislatures, The Houses of the Oireachtas (consisting of The Dáil and The Seanad) in the Republic and The Northern Ireland Assembly which is a devolved assembly of the British government (and also where I work).

In brief, the Republic of Ireland consists of 26 of the 32 Irish counties, Northern Ireland being the other 6. Ireland was partitioned by the British in 1921 with them retaining control over the 6 counties. This was not popular with the Catholic nationalist minority in the north but kept the majority Protestant population happy. I won't go into it in any more depth but you must be aware of The Troubles that lasted the best part of 30 years (depends what age you are I suppose)?

Iarnód Éireann isn't a funny name at all. It's Gaelic for Irish Rail. Both English and Gaelic are used in Ireland and road signs are written in both. There are areas of the Republic where signs are in Gaelic only, these are in places where Gaelic is widely spoken and for many, is their first language.

The Republic embraced the European Union far more than the British government. All speed limits are in kph in the south in line with a European directive. Although the British also signed up to the same directive, they have not implemented the change so it's mph in the north. Means keeping an eye on the speedo when you take the motorway over the border or you could find yourself doing 120mph!!! Hehe.

 

[SamFarnon]

I'm not asking for reskins I'm asking for anyone who is able to do so to create a dart from scratch like i said ages ago

 

[nexusdj]

I'm not asking for reskins I'm asking for anyone who is able to do so to create a dart from scratch like i said ages ago

No problem If anyone else requires them I can upload to the DLS or just send them you ?

 

[pfx]

I'm not asking for reskins I'm asking for anyone who is able to do so to create a dart from scratch like i said ages ago

Don't expect to see any DART stock too soon in that case. Just thought I'd give you the option.

 

[SamFarnon]

PFX you live in Ireland can't you do it