"Native" 2009 Compatibility List

[OverlordNZ]

I will soon be making a "Native" TS2009 Compatibility List on my website.

Basically what 'built-in' content runs under TS2009 'Native' mode without errors. (NOT 'compatibility' mode).

Most likely will start out with the Auran built-in stuff I use a lot and go from there.

Tell me what you think of the idea, or has it already been done someplace.

Cheers

 

[meatloaf747]

Great idea...

I think it's a great idea mate. (to the best of my knowledge, no one has been there, done that)...
Go the Hurricanes, Warriors & the Black Caps !!! (You have to be a Kiwi or an Ocker to understand those)... Yeah, good on ya mate. We'll have to try & get together & have a cold one !!! Can't beat cracking open a few tinnie's...
Cheers, Mac...

 

[OverlordNZ]

I think it's a great idea mate. (to the best of my knowledge, no one has been there, done that)...
Go the Hurricanes, Warriors & the Black Caps !!! (You have to be a Kiwi or an Ocker to understand those)... Yeah, good on ya mate. We'll have to try & get together & have a cold one !!! Can't beat cracking open a few tinnie's...
Cheers, Mac...

Well, I'm in Central Auckland in the CBD. PM me,

Cheers

 

[Euphod]

While I just can't muster up as much local enthusiasm as Meatloaf, on first blush I thought this was a good idea, but then I wondered what the use would be.

 

[OverlordNZ]

While I just can't muster up as much local enthusiasm as Meatloaf, on first blush I thought this was a good idea, but then I wondered what the use would be.

The use would be being able to know what 'built-in' stuff you could run in 'native' mode, without it puking on you.

At the moment there are like over 800+ that won't even run in 'Compatibility' mode more less 'native'.

 

[Euphod]

Well, it's certainly not going to hurt anything, but it seems a tedious way to build a route, to have to check every piece of content against a list. I would imagine most people would just trial and error it.

On the other hand if users wanted to disable that content, I suppose it would be handy.

 

[R707]

The desire to know what will, and what will not work in TS2009 Native Mode will justify the need for this very useful idea.

Pete :wave:

 

[valishara]

Every items that doesn't trigger a "faulty" warning is TS2009 compatible. Of course everybody with about half the size of a mouse's intelligence knows that; everybody who has read the onther inane drivel by the TO already knows that too of course.

 

[American_Connections]

No puns this time!

...Auran built-in stuff vs: Compatibility List.

Tell me what you think of the idea, or has it already been done someplace.

Cheers

Now it seems to me that if they made it a built-in asset, it should be compatible with the program in the first place, right? Ya'll seem to have a different logic down there than to people of the northern hem!
What should have been done it to be sure the program was compatible with the thousands of assets already in use and offered through thier DLS.

 

[OverlordNZ]

Hey, if people like valishara don't want it and have to personal attack about it. FINE...If some can't see the usefulness.. FINE!

No skin of my arse.. I can make it for myself..

Sorry, I asked to help out the community..

Nuff Said..

 

[American_Connections]

"Cool" Dude!

...
No skin of my arse.. I can make it for myself..
Sorry, I asked to help out the community..
Nuff Said..

Buddy, take it with a grain of salt. Don't let things get to you like this, is just thier opinions. Your idea is not bad to try to fix something that should never have needed this kind of fix. My statement was not directed toward you, but toward the creators of the siuation yout are trying to fix, ok. Remember, don't sweat the small stuff, (and it's all small stuff)!

 

[john259]

It seems like an excellent idea to me. Could I suggest starting by checking the built-in content?

John

 

[Napalm]

valishara - as you are quite new to these forums can I suggest you give other posters some respect. There is no sense in 'flaming' the OP when they are trying to help the community.

Overlord - I think it's a great idea also, if you want some help let me know and I'll do what I can.

Nathan

 

[philskene]

Well, if we are having a list, I'd really like to know what items just don't work at all in Compatibility Mode.

 

[treblesum81]

Hey, if people like valishara don't want it and have to personal attack about it. FINE...If some can't see the usefulness.. FINE!

No skin of my arse.. I can make it for myself..

Sorry, I asked to help out the community..

Nuff Said..

Personally, I think its a great idea... I hate having to run in compatibility mode all of the time, especially since it doesn't let my computer really stretch its legs. Yeah, it might be a little tedious building routes that way, or swapping out assets, but ultimately it will be a great boon to those of us running the new program.

And to everyone who feels the need to be negative: "If you don't like it, its not like someone is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it so keep your pie hole closed and don't use it..."

Sorry, I just don't have any respect for someone who has to try and shoot down someones hard work and volunteered time just because THEY think its a waste of time, forget what anyone else thinks.... Stupid if you ask me...

 

[valishara]

Sorry, I just don't have any respect for someone who has to try and shoot down someones hard work and volunteered time just because THEY think its a waste of time, forget what anyone else thinks.... Stupid if you ask me...

It IS already done.

 

[ajho]

Excellent idea, but a mammoth piece of work. The idea that some people have the Auran ought (or indeed is able) to produce a version of Trainz that is compatible with every item on the download station from version 1.3 onwards is just nonsense.

Every change to Trainz is bound to render some stuff redundant, if only to allow newer and better stuff to work. No more so than the trees. In order to get the new trees to work, they have had to break the old ones, none of which AFAIK are compatible with TS2009 native mode.

Conversely, some items made for higher versions of Trainz may work perfectly happily in earlier versions.

Trouble is, nobody, not even Auran, knows what items are compatible with which versions. It would be great if you could apply a filter in Content Manager that would allow you only to see items that work in your version of Trainz, but it cannot be done at the moment simply because that data does not exist.

With nearly 100,000 items to classify, this requires a huge effort, and some sort of comunity/web 2.0 effort is clearly called for. I don't know weither this could be incorporated into the wiki or weither a separate database is called for.

The only proviso is that Auran have talked about applying a software fix to correct some of the more obious errors on the download station which could render much of the information out of date. However, I gather that on current plans this is unlikely to happen "soon".

 

[Euphod]

I will soon be making a "Native" TS2009 Compatibility List on my website.

Basically what 'built-in' content runs under TS2009 'Native' mode without errors. (NOT 'compatibility' mode).

Most likely will start out with the Auran built-in stuff I use a lot and go from there.

Tell me what you think of the idea, or has it already been done someplace.

Cheers

Whoa..."dude", I'm pretty sure you ASKED for opinions. My ex-wife used to do this to me all the time....

 

[johnwhelan]

Every items that doesn't trigger a "faulty" warning is TS2009 compatible. Of course everybody with about half the size of a mouse's intelligence knows that; everybody who has read the onther inane drivel by the TO already knows that too of course.

Perhaps when you've been round Trainz a little longer you'll have a better idea of how it all works.

For example .pm files work fine but give errors or warnings in TRS2009. I think what we are trying to establish here is a list of items that do not have TRS2009 version number but do work in TRS2009 native mode. I have a number of my creations that fit this criteria but are not part of the built in content.

Cheerio John

 

[johnwhelan]

Trouble is, nobody, not even Auran, knows what items are compatible with which versions. It would be great if you could apply a filter in Content Manager that would allow you only to see items that work in your version of Trainz, but it cannot be done at the moment simply because that data does not exist.

I like this idea.:Y:

Cheerio John