Has anyone seen this video yet?

Serious stuff , You can see the leading loco start to tip over as it disappears from view behind the building !!
A clear demonstration of momentum at work with the rear of the train continuing to plough into the derailed front section .
Thoughts to the engineer and conductor on the leading loco :

"The driver of the tractor-trailer has minor injuries, but Tubbs says two train engineers are in more serious condition. One was air lifted to the hospital, the other in being transported by ambulance"

More info : http://www.knoe.com/story/26708389/train-derails-in-mer-rouge
 
This was an horrific accident! My thoughts go to the train crew.

The NTSB will have an interesting report on this. But I ask the question: Why was the truck blocking the crossing? That's usually a violation in most jurisdictions and I have a feeling the truck driver will be sited for the accident and face charges.

John
 
Now Hireing all four wheelers who don't have a job and want to be truck drivers! We'll all also comprmise our saftey in America and pay you minimum wage for 70 hours a week driving, but we'll pay train drivers like there kings and queens! Love the cosmos.
 
JCitron said:
This was an horrific accident! My thoughts go to the train crew.

The NTSB will have an interesting report on this. But I ask the question: Why was the truck blocking the crossing? That's usually a violation in most jurisdictions and I have a feeling the truck driver will be sited for the accident and face charges.

John
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Hi everybody.
John, the vehicle involved was an articulated unit pulling a “ low loader” trailer. These trailers ride very close to the ground to allow tracked vehicles etc to be driven straight onto them when loading. Apparently as the driver drove over the crossing the trailer “bottomed out” leaving the vehicle stranded over the crossing. The driver had been trying to free the vehicle for several minutes before it was struck by the train.

Bottoming out is a common problem with these trailers and it takes much experience and a high degree of skill for drivers to be able to judge when sharp up and when down gradient can be driven over or not. However in Britain and many European countries, haulage companies normally only use their most experienced drivers who carefully plan a route along with the company traffic coordinators before commencing a journey with these trailers.

It could be that the crossing was not signed out correctly either at the site or in the specialist Maps that road transport companies use to gain information on low bridges, adverse gradients etc. Either way it was an horrific accident and we can only await the results of the preliminary investigation for pointers in the direction of how this incident came about

Bill
 
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Which is Worse - Part 1

Train getting hit by a tornado or being chased by a tornado?

Hit by tornado:
 
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davesnow said:
I don't know how to put YouTube screens on the forum. Can someone tell me how?
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If you click on "go advanced" you get extra buttons. You will probably recognize the "link" and "image" icon. The one to the right of the image icon is the one for video's.
 
It's just like posting a photo on the Forums. Next to where you click to post a picture, you see a piece of film. Click on that to post a video. Just copy and paste the URL just like when you post a picture. Note: ONLY VIDEOS ON HULU, YOUTUBE (LONG), YOUTUBE (SHORT), VIMEO, DAILYMOTION, METACAFE, GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK ARE ALLOWED
 
Firstly, my Thoughts and Prayers go out to the train crew.

JCitron said:
This was an horrific accident! My thoughts go to the train crew.

The NTSB will have an interesting report on this. But I ask the question: Why was the truck blocking the crossing? That's usually a violation in most jurisdictions and I have a feeling the truck driver will be sited for the accident and face charges.

John
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Will be interesting to see who issued the permits for that load on that route, or if the driver was "off-route".

Williamb73 said:
Now Hireing all four wheelers who don't have a job and want to be truck drivers! We'll all also comprmise our saftey in America and pay you minimum wage for 70 hours a week driving, but we'll pay train drivers like there kings and queens! Love the cosmos.
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For what it's worth, Loco Engineers make about the same income as a highly qualified Semi driver. Having worked in both fields, I know from experience that NEITHER are paid enough for the amount of responsibility we have to take on. (not just to do our jobs, but for the safety of the community at large).
--Also note, hauling this type of oversized load requires special training and certification, so it does not compare to driving for Swift, Schneider, JBHunt, or Werner. Not "just any 4 wheeler" is going to be pulling these loads...I guess you drive for Heartland, or one of the other 4 I named above...

wholbr said:
Hi everybody.
John, the vehicle involved was an articulated unit pulling a “ low loader” trailer. These trailers ride very close to the ground to allow tracked vehicles etc to be driven straight onto them when loading. Apparently as the driver drove over the crossing the trailer “bottomed out” leaving the vehicle stranded over the crossing. The driver had been trying to free the vehicle for several minutes before it was struck by the train.

Bottoming out is a common problem with these trailers and it takes much experience and a high degree of skill for drivers to be able to judge when sharp up and when down gradient can be driven over or not. However in Britain and many European countries, haulage companies normally only use their most experienced drivers who carefully plan a route along with the company traffic coordinators before commencing a journey with these trailers.

It could be that the crossing was not signed out correctly either at the site or in the specialist Maps that road transport companies use to gain information on low bridges, adverse gradients etc. Either way it was an horrific accident and we can only await the results of the preliminary investigation for pointers in the direction of how this incident came about

Bill
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Here in the States, these types of loads have to be "permitted", meaning the haulage company and/or driver must apply for, and receive a "permit" to haul the over-sized load. The Permit stipulates the Route, Time of Day, and what types of Escorts are required to make the move. It would appear at face value, that the driver was either given a poor route, or he disregarded the Route instructions, and was "off-Route". If he was told to drive that route, he will be less likely to be "prosecuted", but will likely have some very stiff fines to pay. If however, he was "off-route", he may likely face jail-time, in addition to his fines.
--Regardless of the "Routing" of the load, it would have been the truck driver's DUTY to stop and inspect the crossing BEFORE attempting to cross the tracks. Drivers of this class of vehicle must have additional certifications, (not just any truck driver can haul those types of loads), and as such would have the knowledge to "know better", and SHOULD have some measuring device, capable of telling if there was sufficient grade to clear the trailer bottom.

I have my "Doubles/Triples" endorsement, and "Tanker" endorsement, so I have some experience with "difficult" loads (multiple trailers and sloshing liquids), but these "heavy Hauls" are a whole other animal, that I have not yet been certified for.

jordon412 said:
Train getting ... she would have regretted it, if she lived.
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Please stop hi-jacking other peoples threads, and spamming unrelated train videos.
 
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One of the other thoughts that has crossed my mind on this is why didn't the driver notify the railroad? The do have their emergency 800-number as well as other contact information plastered on the side of the crossing equipment! Or perhaps he did and they couldn't contact the train crew, which I doubt.

The other thing is the driver should have moved completely away from his vehicle and completely clear of everything. This at least would have saved him from the minor injuries he received.

And yes, Bill. KingConrail76 pointed out something that is very important. The truck driver has be certified to drive this equipment and use a designated route here in the US.

John
 
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The truck trailer bottomed out, and could not move ... even if the trailer was grounding out 2 rails track signal circuit, the train had probably passed a green signal miles before the crossing ... Even if the dispatcher could radio the train crew, there would be too few precious moments before the collision ... the fast train would take in excess of a quarter mile to stop in emergency braking ... there just was not enough time to stop the train that was barreling towards the truck that probably had just gotten stuck on the hump of the crossing moments before the crossing gates came down ... a lowboy truck driver probably would never have known that a RR crossing had a hump to it, and no navigation apps would have told him to avoid that intersection.

The only thing that could have avoided the crash would be a law where a lowboy truck would have to pull over to the side of a road, and inspector or RR official would come out and oversee the lowboy trailer crossing the RR, and notify trains to stop until the truck cleared the crossing.
 
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Just a comment, but as too needing a permit or not. That goes to wight and height , many of these construction don't. And many don't get a look at what hazarded are on the rout they need to take. Being in construction, we've had a lot of close calls, and a lot of bad one's. This would be one of the worst I've seen. Driver needed a little commonsense here. Many of these haulers have a look out driver to help spot issues?
 
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