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2995Valliant
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So it turns out that GresleyNg's Garratt has some potential.
After quite a bit of work to the textures and configs and new enginespecs for the three parts it now performs as I believe it should and looks like this:
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marmalade32
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I can second that.That looks amazing Anthony!
That's the best-looking Garratt I've ever seen in Trainz. I think both Gresley's LMS and LNER Garratt Models could go very far indeed in the hands of a master like you!
Southern Region Circa 1956 - An Ex-SR Maunsell Q Class accelerates past Forge Farm Crossing with a down parcels to Eastbourne - possibly from Redhill or Three Bridges. The farm was situated between Eridge Station and Birchden Junction along the Cuckoo Line and saw significant enough traffic that a Crossing Keeper's Home was installed. Forge Farm Crossing is still in use to this day.
2995Valliant
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The screenshot below is courtesy of a tester who just happens to be building a route which is one of the few in the UK capable of testing a Garrett to its limit: 47995 can be seen lifting a train of 30 16ton minerals out of Radstock on the long 1 in 50 climb to Radstock. For context, a 7F was only allowed 17 wagons on this climb......
The good news is that the original author has very generously granted me permission to upload my reskin to the DLS, and edh6 has kindly given up a good chunk of his Sunday to add his script to it so it now has working couplings and headcode lamps.
I've few more things to sort out on it but it should be on the DLS by the end of the week.
The good news is that the original author has very generously granted me permission to upload my reskin to the DLS, and edh6 has kindly given up a good chunk of his Sunday to add his script to it so it now has working couplings and headcode lamps.
I've few more things to sort out on it but it should be on the DLS by the end of the week.
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KotangaGirl
Pre-Grouping Railways Nut
Absolutely brilliant Anthony, and thanks too to Ed as well.. Garratts worked over Lickey, - only my old Paulz Trainz Garratts are stuck in TS12 so I can't run them in TANE or TRS19.
Best, Annie
KotangaGirl
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I've dug Lickey out of my archives and installed it in TANE as I'd like to have it fully operational again. It needs some work as some of the older TS12 & etc assets are a bit naff in TANE, but hopefully it shouldn't take too long to do that. I mainly ran Lickey using engines from GP Locomotives with a few extras by Paul Hobbs.
Here's 45700 'Britannia' at Bromsgrove before its name got stolen to be stuck onto a BR standard Pacific.
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Here's 45700 'Britannia' at Bromsgrove before its name got stolen to be stuck onto a BR standard Pacific.
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2995Valliant
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Apologies for the lack of a pretty background (I'm late for work) but it's the loco that matters anyway.
47999, complete with Midland lamps thanks to Ed, is now on its way to the DLS. Other numbers, bunker and livery versions will follow.
47999, complete with Midland lamps thanks to Ed, is now on its way to the DLS. Other numbers, bunker and livery versions will follow.
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KotangaGirl
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It was Derby's insistence on Beyer-Peacock using 4F axleboxes that really did them in. They were barely adequate for a 4F and needed constant maintenance to keep the Garratts at work. Completely stupid really as Beyer-Peacock were the world experts on Garratts so Derby should have kept out of it and let them get on with it.
2995Valliant
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I can see Derby's logic in using standard parts, and I think the 4F axlebox issue has been overstated by certain authors.
Bearings generally caused all the big four some trouble, and in Derby's defence they had a good few years experience with the 4F, the S&D 7Fs used the same axle boxes and had been in service for well over a decade by the time the Garratts were designed. Each power bogie of the Garratt, though it carries more weight, puts less thrust (which is what causes the wear) on the axleboxes than a 4F. The Garratts' sole purpose was to run ran a 240 mile round trip from Toton to Brent and back day-in day-out so whilst they may have appeared to have needed a lot of attention it would be interesting to see the mileage comparison between overhauls for the 4F and the Garratts.
I found an article very recently which had researched the subject quite comprehensively and reached two conclusions - the Derby axleboxes were better than any of the LNWR designs by far, and most of the trouble with the Derby boxes was due to the LMS specifying an inferior oil in the 1930s.
Apparently in the last couple of years the Garratts were in service their availablility was as good as the 9Fs which replaced them.
Anyway, enough rivet counting - here's a picture:
49998, one of the two never to receive a revolving bunker has been uploaded to the DLS so should be available for download tomorrow, 47999 is now available.
Bearings generally caused all the big four some trouble, and in Derby's defence they had a good few years experience with the 4F, the S&D 7Fs used the same axle boxes and had been in service for well over a decade by the time the Garratts were designed. Each power bogie of the Garratt, though it carries more weight, puts less thrust (which is what causes the wear) on the axleboxes than a 4F. The Garratts' sole purpose was to run ran a 240 mile round trip from Toton to Brent and back day-in day-out so whilst they may have appeared to have needed a lot of attention it would be interesting to see the mileage comparison between overhauls for the 4F and the Garratts.
I found an article very recently which had researched the subject quite comprehensively and reached two conclusions - the Derby axleboxes were better than any of the LNWR designs by far, and most of the trouble with the Derby boxes was due to the LMS specifying an inferior oil in the 1930s.
Apparently in the last couple of years the Garratts were in service their availablility was as good as the 9Fs which replaced them.
Anyway, enough rivet counting - here's a picture:
49998, one of the two never to receive a revolving bunker has been uploaded to the DLS so should be available for download tomorrow, 47999 is now available.
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KotangaGirl
Pre-Grouping Railways Nut
Thanks very much for your explanation Anthony and setting me straight on the axlebox issue. Using inferior oil would not have helped the axleboxes very much.
I've always been keen on the LMS Garratts and I'm looking forward to running your newly overhauled Garratts on Lickey.
KotangaGirl
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A quick snap I took at Blackwell.
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Remember our UK friends and don't post your pictures on Imgur.
2995Valliant
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LMS liveries are on the to-do list as well by the way.
Good God this is beautiful Valliant....
I just got the LMS Garratt in game and I'm putting it through it's paces along the GCR Mainline (wrong region for it, I know
). The engine can keep a good 40MPH with roughly 50-60 16T Mineral Wagons and is a gorgeous operator! Thank you so much for taking the time to give this leviathan one of your fantastic touch ups!
I just got the LMS Garratt in game and I'm putting it through it's paces along the GCR Mainline (wrong region for it, I know
). The engine can keep a good 40MPH with roughly 50-60 16T Mineral Wagons and is a gorgeous operator! Thank you so much for taking the time to give this leviathan one of your fantastic touch ups!
Did I also mention he has the LNER U1 too.There is a freeware LMS Garratt from this site
Interesting.... The U1s worked as bankers near Wath I think, but they would definitely fit the GCR well... Might have to take a look at them and see.
2995Valliant
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