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[johnwhelan]

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So you need to register and use Discord?

Thanks John

 

[spitfire98462]

So you need to register and use Discord?

Thanks John

Yea just create an account, enter the link and you should join automatically

 

[spitfire98462]

And what do we have here ?

It's a new Rocket from Ravenshire works but the catch is you will need to download TSI Edward model to get the Driver and Fireman.

Here is the link to that : https://sudrianindustries.wixsite.com/sudrianindustries/standard-gauge

 

[KotangaGirl]

If you follow the links provided by spitfire98462 to the Ifor Engineering Works discord it in a post dated 25th December in the category "site-updates" - it took me a couple of hard looks to find it.

Not exactly marked out with flashing lights though is it (sigh).

 

[KotangaGirl]

Sorry about being such a grumpy socks over the new 57xx. Here it is in the newly rebuilt yard at Gwladys Ddu in 'Tristyn in Winter'. I'm still using TANE in Linux. I must say that from my first walk around it that's it's a nicely detailed model and with fully modelled inside valve gear too. Once I've had a chance to do some shunting and trip working using the steam controls I might have some further comments to make.
I won't be retiring any of my other 57xx's on 'Tristyn in Winter' just yet though, - I'm short enough on 0-6-0 shunting and trip working engines as it is.

Rebuilding the yard and MPD at Gwladys Ddu over the past couple of days has been keeping me amused and out of trouble. There's a few more small things to do and then I'll be moving on the next station along the line and doing much the same kind of thing. My aim is to keep on working my way around the layout until all the stations and yards have been rebuilt.

With the general shortage of accurate and good quality goods wagons for the Big 4 grouping era I'm quite happy to look over and select suitable rolling stock from off the TTTE shelves. With Steve Flanders busily working away as well making GWR rolling stock as well as GWR area PO wagons things are definitely a lot better than they were.

 

[spitfire98462]

It really amazes me how many Furness Locos we have but sadly no home route for them to run on.

I need to do a fix for the tender on one of them as the TTTE scripting is broken on it.

 

[Tanker46]

Nice to see you back Tanker. My faithful old CoolerMaster computer suddenly died last month and I've only just now managed to piece everything back together again. In between things I've been running TANE in Linux which has been a successful project and one that I'm likely to stay with.
I'm working on getting a Windows 11 computer up and running, but I don't think it will be Trainz ready until sometime in the New Year.

And yes like you I was saved from a lot of heartache by having everything backed up to the max.

Thank you very much Annie! I knew if anyone would be happy to see me it would definitely be you! I'm also sorry to hear about the demise of your beloved CoolerMaster. Cared for PCs are like family and it's almost like losing a pet when they finally take their last breath. My laptop was built with the parts oif my original laptop my late Gran bought for me so I was understandably heartbroken when it finally gave out. Thankfully, I was able to get some really good tips from Barney and bought a new rig that ca handle Trainz on the highest levels.

I'm really happy to see you found Mango's new 5700. It's been a long time since we've seen a new one in Trainz and unfortunately George's 5700 is beginning to look a bit long in the tooth. (I'd use it forever if I could). I just picked it up myself and it actually looks pretty outstanding along the Tarantelle Branch - I do love running them in tandem with a pair of GWR Autocoaches, I think they look splendid :

In addition, Barney 's 8750 Class Pannier Tank is almost completed too. Very soon we'll have two outstanding new GWR Tank Engines to operate on our own incredible routes!

 

[KotangaGirl]

It really amazes me how many Furness Locos we have but sadly no home route for them to run on.

Lake District UK Rail; the CKPR <KUID:336550:100271>

Not quite the Furness, but it is in the right part of the country. This is where I keep my own Furness engines.
It's a TRS19/early version TRS22 route.

 

[robd]

If you follow the links provided by spitfire98462 to the Ifor Engineering Works discord it in a post dated 25th December in the category "site-updates" - it took me a couple of hard looks to find it.

Thanks for the pointer, it helped me find a needle in a (smaller) haystack! What a load of haphazard nonsense discord seems to be!

Rob.

 

[spitfire98462]

Lake District UK Rail; the CKPR <KUID:336550:100271>

Not quite the Furness, but it is in the right part of the country. This is where I keep my own Furness engines.
It's a TRS19/early version TRS22 route.

Will check it out thank you

 

[KotangaGirl]

In addition, Barney 's 8750 Class Pannier Tank is almost completed too. Very soon we'll have two outstanding new GWR Tank Engines to operate on our own incredible routes!

A Collett 8750 Pannier Tank would be a very useful addition indeed Tanker, - though I do tend to be biased towards the older 57xx's.
An excellent collection of lovely rural screenshots you have there, - but do I see the GER timber built station building from Quy pretending to be a GWR timber built station building? There are more than a few similarities between them so fair enough.

 

[KotangaGirl]

Has anyone noticed that the new 57xx is smaller than it should be? It's more like a 56⅔xx than a 57xx.
I compared it against both Skipper's and Gary Price's 57xx's and it's definitely smaller.

 

[spitfire98462]

Has anyone noticed that the new 57xx is smaller than it should be? It's more like a 56⅔xx than a 57xx.
I compared it against both Skipper's and Gary Price's 57xx's and it's definitely smaller.

People use different sources, programs ect but I like to think Mangos is more accurate.

 

[robd]

There were a few GWR pannier types: could the new model be a smaller but similar looking 54xx? I don't know, I'm no expert!

Rob.

 

[KotangaGirl]

People use different sources, programs ect but I like to think Mangos is more accurate.

A set of works drawings for a locomotive don't change size. I used to build model locomotives in brass and if a model ends up being the wrong size it's because its maker can't read a drawing properly.

There were a few GWR pannier types: could the new model be a smaller but similar looking 54xx? I don't know, I'm no expert!

Rob.

That's a possibility Rob. I would need to compare drawings of each of them to be certain though.

 

[spitfire98462]

The one thing I like about this new Rocket, it has the post Rainhill livery.

 

[2995Valliant]

Don't judge anything off Skipper's models as they were generally built by eye, rather than from drawings. His 5700 class is definitely overscale and out of proportion in a number of areas.

The new 5700 is the same length as Gary's 8750 class (which will be accurate) and close enough as makes no odds at buffer height and tank top height.

The chimney's a bit low, and the dome a touch big, but otherwise it's pretty accurate I think. The Churchward cabs were lower than the Collett cabs, so that's correct.

Panniers are a complex subject - there were lots, mostly rebuilds of older locos - but the 5400s were bigger wheeled and unrelated (by Swindon's standards) to the 5700s, despite the overall dimensions (length, boiler pitch and overall height were within an inch or so. They were smaller though in respect of a much lower tractive effort than the 5700 with a different, lower pressure, boiler and smaller cylinders.

5700s were intended primarily for shunting, 5400s were for light branch trains where the extra turn of speed and freer running allowed by the bigger wheels might come in handy.

 

[spitfire98462]

Don't judge anything off Skipper's models as they were generally built by eye, rather than from drawings. His 5700 class is definitely overscale and out of proportion in a number of areas.

The new 5700 is the same length as Gary's 8750 class (which will be accurate) and close enough as makes no odds at buffer height and tank top height.

The chimney's a bit low, and the dome a touch big, but otherwise it's pretty accurate I think. The Churchward cabs were lower than the Collett cabs, so that's correct.

Panniers are a complex subject - there were lots, mostly rebuilds of older locos - but the 5400s were bigger wheeled and unrelated (by Swindon's standards) to the 5700s, despite the overall dimensions (length, boiler pitch and overall height were within an inch or so. They were smaller though in respect of a much lower tractive effort than the 5700 with a different, lower pressure, boiler and smaller cylinders.

5700s were intended primarily for shunting, 5400s were for light branch trains where the extra turn of speed and freer running allowed by the bigger wheels might come in handy.

This is really useful infomation here, thank you.

 

[KotangaGirl]

Don't judge anything off Skipper's models as they were generally built by eye, rather than from drawings. His 5700 class is definitely overscale and out of proportion in a number of areas.

The new 5700 is the same length as Gary's 8750 class (which will be accurate) and close enough as makes no odds at buffer height and tank top height.

The chimney's a bit low, and the dome a touch big, but otherwise it's pretty accurate I think. The Churchward cabs were lower than the Collett cabs, so that's correct.

Panniers are a complex subject - there were lots, mostly rebuilds of older locos - but the 5400s were bigger wheeled and unrelated (by Swindon's standards) to the 5700s, despite the overall dimensions (length, boiler pitch and overall height were within an inch or so. They were smaller though in respect of a much lower tractive effort than the 5700 with a different, lower pressure, boiler and smaller cylinders.

5700s were intended primarily for shunting, 5400s were for light branch trains where the extra turn of speed and freer running allowed by the bigger wheels might come in handy.

Thanks for that information Anthony. I'm having a bad day with not being well so I hadn't got as far as doing a proper measure up after locating a drawing for a 57xx. I much prefer the Churchward cab so that is one definite plus in the new 57xx's favour.

Just as well I didn't send it off to Barry scrapyard then.

If you look here on this page the information about GWR Panniers is positively bewildering:
http://www.gwr.org.uk/nopanniers.html

 

[Tanker46]

A Collett 8750 Pannier Tank would be a very useful addition indeed Tanker, - though I do tend to be biased towards the older 57xx's.
An excellent collection of lovely rural screenshots you have there, - but do I see the GER timber built station building from Quy pretending to be a GWR timber built station building? There are more than a few similarities between them so fair enough.

I get what you are saying Annie. I'm pretty partial to the 8750s because a good number of the, got transferred to the Southern Region after steam ended on the Western Region of BR. They ended up taking over shunting rolls in South London at Stewarts Lane and Nine Elms while also being allocated to Dover Maring and working the shunting on the Folkstone Harbour Branch.

Although I much prefer the SECR R1 Class 0-6-0Ts that they replaced, I can't deny that they were very good at their jobs.