Trainz Update Announcement (SP5 HF)

Hello after updating to version 129620 the draw distance for my trees is now at about 5 feet... lol Seems like it no longer processes behind the camera either. Lags and constantly precaching now. Anyone else having this problem?
 
No, I am not seeing either of those issues in the latest Trainz Plus beta (129620). Less than "optimal precaching" is a feature of beta builds. After installing the beta and loading a route let it go through its slow precache before starting work. The bigger the route the more precaching.

Check the Draw Distance setting in Surveyor (see the Trainz Wiki at Route_and_Session_Basics#Creating_a_New_Route)

What trees are you referring to? All of them? SpeedTrees? Plant Factory trees (in Trainz Plus beta only)?

Plant Factory trees are in their first beta release and draw distance problems are a known issue (one of several).
 
Hello after updating to version 129620 the draw distance for my trees is now at about 5 feet... lol Seems like it no longer processes behind the camera either. Lags and constantly precaching now. Anyone else having this problem?
Yes, I am having the same problem! Hope, there is a fix from n3v in the future other than running another install.
 
@railroader86001 is there any specific reason why you have installed the beta version (129620) of Trainz Plus, other than to be involved in beta testing? So far only yourself and @Dyratrast have posted about this problem.

Have you put in a bug report at https://n3vgames.typeform.com/to/xRdryu. Make sure that you state that ALL trees have this problem.

Despite your statement ...
is a fix from n3v in the future other than running another install.
going to MyTrainz and reinstalling the last stable retail release (129343 for Windows) might be the best solution.
 
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@railroader86001 is there any specific reason why you have installed the beta version (129620) of Trainz Plus, other than to be involved in beta testing? So far only yourself and @Dyratrast have posted about this problem.

Have you put in a bug report at https://n3vgames.typeform.com/to/xRdryu. Make sure that you state that ALL trees have this problem.

Despite your statement ...

going to MyTrainz and reinstalling the last stable retail release (129343 for Windows) might be the best solution.
No, no specific reason and I have never had a problem until 129620. I have now installed installed 129343 as well, but it's going to be a lot of work getting everything copied over.
 
no specific reason
Unless you are prepared to put up with and report the bugs (and this may be one of them although my b129620 has not experienced it) and other issues, such as assertion messages and poor caching, then my best advice is to steer clear of the betas. Yes, beta versions often have interesting new features but they always come with a price (and some pain).
 
Unless you are prepared to put up with and report the bugs (and this may be one of them although my b129620 has not experienced it) and other issues, such as assertion messages and poor caching, then my best advice is to steer clear of the betas. Yes, beta versions often have interesting new features but they always come with a price (and some pain).
lol i forgot i was on the beta version.. but if you are curious what trees they are they are the st_rmm trees by RMM. So the new updated version of coal country none of the trees are displayed very well. Seems like the camera angle decides weather or not they are going to show up or not, and view distance is very poor. Everything else seems to show up normal
 
lol i forgot i was on the beta version.. but if you are curious what trees they are they are the st_rmm trees by RMM. So the new updated version of coal country none of the trees are displayed very well. Seems like the camera angle decides weather or not they are going to show up or not, and view distance is very poor. Everything else seems to show up normal
These are known issues with the beta.

  • Trees in distance may not appear as camera facing imposters (this may cause them to not appear as rendered if the imposter is set/viewed at a 90 degree angle to the camera)
  • Trees may be rendered as imposters at incorrect locations (Trees may appear floating in the distance)
 
Unless you are prepared to put up with and report the bugs (and this may be one of them although my b129620 has not experienced it) and other issues, such as assertion messages and poor caching, then my best advice is to steer clear of the betas. Yes, beta versions often have interesting new features but they always come with a price (and some pain).
It would be convenient if n3v made an uninstaller to remove the beta if needed. Yes, I know about the potential problems with beata's, but I guess I just lucked out up until now not having any issues. I should have installed the stable version a long time ago, but did not know I could have two versions installed at once.
 
did not know I could have two versions installed at once
Not just multiple versions, you can also have multiple user data folders for each version, as long as you have the storage space. For example: Trainz Plus (or any other version) can have:-
  1. a main user data folder with built-in, DLC, lots and lots of DLS and 3rd party content, as well as all the content you have created yourself
  2. a second user data folder that, for example, you have setup to only contain built-in and DLS assets
  3. a 3rd user data folder that contains built-in, packaged and DLC assets
  4. and so on - storage space is the only limit.
You can switch Trainz between the different folders by changing the folder named in the Trainz Settings --> Install tab --> Local Data folder. Each switch will require a restart of Trainz.
 
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multiple user data folders for each version,
While it could be very useful for those who crave fine tuning their Trainz experience, I'm afraid it would be a disaster for the regular Trainz user. Having things in different sessions is already a big issue. Imagine the number of frantic posts from people who can't find their items and swear it was there just yesterday. :rolleyes:
 
While it could be very useful for those who crave fine tuning their Trainz experience, I'm afraid it would be a disaster for the regular Trainz user. Having things in different sessions is already a big issue. Imagine the number of frantic posts from people who can't find their items and swear it was there just yesterday. :rolleyes:
To ensure I don't do that, I not only put the links in a folder, but I also edit the graphics for the Launcher and put something on it so that it's different than the regular installation. This is useful when doing betas of the same program.
 
Imagine the number of frantic posts from people who can't find their items and swear it was there just yesterday. :rolleyes:
True. Just like those who forget to load the session along with the route.

also edit the graphics for the Launcher and put something on it so that it's different than the regular installation.
Yes, a good idea. I do this for the beta version so that I do not get confused. I have the words "Beta Stream" in big bold white lettering on the bottom right of the Launcher background graphic.
 
where can I get the SP5?
If you have TRS22 SP4 installed you should have received it automatically as soon as you started Trainz.

When you start the program look on the Launcher window at the bottom left corner. You will see a BUILD: number - the number will vary depending on your OS (Windows, Steam, Apple) and where you downloaded the package from (Trainz Store, Apple Mac Store, Steam).

If the number is any one of the following then you already have TRS22 SP5 HF

128503, 129335, 129339, 129383, 129388, 129410
 
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