MARSZ base Alpha 9 secion under construcion

First of all if he can create a high detailed DEM and import it into Trainz, he is a genius.

I can see that he is very skilled in GMax or whatever CG program he is using. I can see him going far as to a well paying occupation.

To show the terrain of Mars (an extraterrestial planet), that is fantastic. If he can make a DEM of Mars and make it available in Trainz ... it would far surpass the present Trainz Mars routes that are on the DLS.

Showing the Grand Canyon is a huge feat of DEM engineering.

Pearl Harbor, and Hawaii in general, is another hugely rugged topographical landscape.

I commend him on his achivements ... and especially want to see him create DEMs as good, better, and more quantity of them than the great Fishlipsatwork provided for he DLS.

I have a high quality DEM of my route that I am working on (Horseshoe Curve-Huntingdon to Johnstown). I would like to see if he can create a DEM of that area of Pennsylvania, that would surpass the 1/3 arc DEM that I presently have.

Keep up the great work

I look forward to seeing a new better route of Mars and the Moon, than what is presently on the DLS.
 
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My present DEM has well over 10,000 baseboards.

Not wanting to be a Gimmie Pig, I won't ask for more DEMs than I can handle (as my present one is more than enough to take up my whole lifetime).

However these DEMs are not on the DLS:

CP Rail-Britsh Columbia-Kicking Horse Pass-Spiral Loops-Canada (Frazer to Lake Louise)
Mount Lowe RR-CA (a once treasured icon of the US, lost and gone forever, due to a fire and dismantling of track)
Mount Tamalapais Gravity RR-Muir Woods-CA (See the book: "The Crookedist Railroad In The World")
Cog Railway-Mount Washington-NH
A DEM of the Grand Canyon, by Fishlipsatwork, only goes up to the canyon rim, and ends shortly after there.

Search: Moon and Mars on the DLS

I wonder how large of a Trainz baseboard DEM, a PC can handle, before it goes: "BiZzzzzzzzit" !

EDIT: I believe my 10,000 baseboard route, as a CDP file measures 567mb
 
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Pea's & Crackers ! ! !

With that type of detail, laying track would be a breeze, as the roadbed has been leveled, without using the "Smooth Spline" tool.

You create a DEM of this area in Trainz, with that type of detail, from Huntingdon to Johnstown (or from Tyrone to Johnstown) (even East Altoona to Cresson) and the Trainz community would love it.

And Yes Indeed ... that last photo is the PRR (now NS) mainline, via the Horsesoe Curve, up and over the East Slope of the Appalachian Front Range-Laurel Highlands Plateau, to the summit at Cresson, an @ 1000' rise of trackage.

The West Slope, which would join to the top of your photo, continues downhill to Johnstown. A staight line tunnel between those points would be @ 37 miles long.

Prior to the RR, during the Canal Period (1780-1815) the Allegheney Portage RR series of 10 Inclined Planes once hauled canal barges up and down the mountain slopes, between Holidaysburg and Johnstown, using winch's with hemp ropes, to haul the bogies.

The RR line on the exterme Left edge leads to the Muleshoe Curve Secondary.

The Wopsy RR, which I am detailing at present, would be on a photo that wold join to the Right Hand side of your photo, towards Pinecroft (East Altoona).
 
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Jerker did an absolutely wonderful super fantastic job when he made my DEM, and I believe he used 1/3 Arc data.

Applying the gradients on his 1/3 Arc data DEM is still a chore, but it is highly do able.

But the 2 DEM's that exist on th DLS of the Hoseshoe Curve route(s) (Fishlipsatwork & DCFox) are really rough data, making laying gradients a totaly impossible chore, as elevations are way off by +/-20m in all dirrections (due to treetop and building distortion).

I understand your translation wording quite well, English is one of the tougher languages to master, sometimes English makes no sence at all. I just love the metric system of measurement.

I think I'll have a yard of beer, and fathom how many smoots are in a 5 -1/8 mile distance:hehe:
5280 feet = 1609.344 meters
4'-8 -1/2" US Std gauge track = 1.4246m ?:confused: Now I'm confused !
 
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Stunning work arraial, absolutely amazing. I have been in Hospital for a week (all better now :) )so I am catching up on emails and threads, plus downloading heaps of content including yours.

I will email you soon.

Craig
:):):)
 
WoW ... just WoW !

I am in shock and awe ... speachless.

My tracklaying spacing tool is MB Finescale Quad 4m, for straight segments (which I replace later on with MP Wood V2) as this route is essentually still a 4 track RR bed (with track #2 removed, for MOW truck access).
See:
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=459974&postcount=41
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=412562&postcount=8
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=412636&postcount=13
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=689507&postcount=81
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=693362&postcount=88
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=694082&postcount=90
 
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That is the East side, 3 tunnel portals at Tunnelhill. The summit is just a short distance away on the West side of the tunnels in Gallitzin.

The first tunnel bored, prior to 1850, was the Portage tunnel, and was at once 2 tracked (now single tracked) (Left). The Portage tunnel was originaly for 2 tracked for the pre-1850 Muleshoe Secondary grade, which was the original PRR mainline. Now the Portage tunnel is for Eastbound trains, and is referred to as the "Slide", as it is a steeper grade, and at a higher elevation than the Gallitzin & Allegheny bores.

The two grade separations: the one at Tunnelhill, and the other at west of Gallitzin at the Rt 53 bridge are very photographed:
Photo & Video Links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5TgY7whcWc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkfZysA1Ad0&feature=related
http://www.trainweb.org/horseshoecurve-nrhs/Guide_Photos/Cresson/Cresson_Rt53_east-3.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvyU75G39P0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3njTDRvJ_B0
http://broadway.pennsyrr.com/Rail/Prr/Maps/Itlk/ar.gif

The Allegheny and Gallitzin tunnels are on the Right. Gallitzin tunnel is now fenced off to prevent trespassers from exploring the abandoned bore. The Allegheny tunnel was crown mined, and 2 tracked a couple years ago, so as to enable high double stacks.

So in the height of the PRR there was a total of 4 tracks, through the 3 tunnel bores ... now there are a total of 3 tracks through 2 tunnel bores.

The Muleshoe Secondary is at the Left (2 tracked, now torn up) and was the original PRR Mainline prior to 1854.

The post 1854 PRR Pittsburgh Division Mainline is on the Right (at one time 4 tracked, now 3 tracked).

The division point between the PRR Middle Division and the PRR Pittsbugh Division is at Alto Tower.

The Staple Bend tunnel (near Franklin) was the first RR tunnel in the US, and was part of the Allegheny Portage RR-Canal System.

The area, and most of Pennsylvania, was, and is, heavily strip mined for iron ore and coal. At one time or another, all of PA trees were cut down, and severe erosion took place.

The Altoona Watershed, at the Horseshoe Curve, has water deversion channels to send toxic water containing barium, selenium, and strip mine run-off away from the resiviors.

Best viewed at 200%-400% magnification

Red= 4 Lane Highway (New US 22)
Gray= 2 Lane local road
Brown= Gravel Strip Mine very rough road

Altoona19ArcDEM4A.jpg


MuleshoeSecondaryLineInterchangeTun.jpg


Towers: (only Alto remains, AR and MG are boarded up. All the rest either burnt down or were demolished).
Alto= Altoona
Slope
Kittaning Point Station (demolished)
MG= Mid Grade
BF= Bennington Furnace (iron ore smelter)
SF= Sugar Furnace (iron ore smelter)
UN= Tunnel
AR= Alto Remote
MO= Mountain
SO= South Fork
AO=
C= Conemaugh
 
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arraial said:
Somme one already think About in make a Trainz Jurassic Park island route?????? Whit dinosaurs surrounded by electrifier fences luxurious vegetation, stop restaurants, lakes, etc, etc a crater island??
If Somme one want to build that kind of route i can put available in dls dinosaurs by request only in the beginning of December.

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Hi arraial,

I would love to see some of these animals on the DLS, I have an idea of where I could use them even if it is a strange idea :hehe:

I was looking at your great Mars Landscapes (01 and 03) and would love to merge them somehow. Would you have any idea on how I could do this and at which points?

Keep the great work coming.

Craig
:):):)
 
Creating a realistic Mars route would be easy ... our Mt Everest and the Grand Canyon are just miniscule bumps and scratches in a terrain.

Some of the Moon & Mars mountains and craters are 300,000 foot tall !
 
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