TRS19 Platinum price question.

[wreeder]

I am waiting for wreeder to come back and verify he means his North American edition has the unified Surveyor/Driver feature once he got to SP2 (re: post #11).

In the meantime, can anybody else corroborate for william that the TRS19 standard edition SP2 has the unified Surveyor/Driver feature?

Here are two screenshots taken from Driver and Surveyor I made for another thread.

https://www.screencast.com/t/zm0ykYj6

https://www.screencast.com/t/cbVTHlCK


The launcher screen even says Platinum Edition now instead of North America Edition.

Now to be clear, if you have a subscription attached to your username, you will get access to features not available to non-subscribers like Multi-player Surveyor and a few other items. That is true with any version of TRS19 that can be purchase as a retail product.

William

 

[deneban]

Now to be clear, if you have a subscription attached to your username, you will get access to features not available to non-subscribers like Multi-player Surveyor and a few other items. That is true with any version of TRS19 that can be purchase as a retail product. William

Ok, so that begs the question does your username have an attached subscription, and if so, is that why your North American version has the unified Driver/Surveyor?

The Unified Driver Interface and access to the TCCP are why I upgraded from Standard to Platinum.

@wreeder - according to Christopher824 he would not have the Unified Driver Interface if he had stayed with the Standard Edition.

 

[wreeder]

No, I do not have a subscription. I just have the retail products.

Maybe this will help. I purchased TRS19 NA edition first to see if I liked it and I had no interest in the other routes in the full version. When SP1 was released it upgraded but there was a bug that made importing my old routes from TRS2004 more difficult than it had been before. I lost interest in messing with it and went back to TANE. Then they released the Platinum version and as I said it was discounted and on sale so I bought it. Think of the base features of Platinum as a kind of SP 1.5 as it included the UDS interface and several features from the subscriber version that I had seen discussed in the forum. Then SP2 came out and it built on what was in Platinum and added more features. It brought my TRS19 NA version up to the same level. So at this point one could consider the purchase of Platinum to have been a wasted purchase but it did give me access to all the DLC and three new routes so all in all it was worth the cost for that alone.

I have deduced that there is only one code base being developed by N3V and that is the Plus version which is available to subscribers only. Ever so often N3V "freezes" the feature set and releases either a standalone product like Platinum or a service patch to the retail versions. Ultimately, we will all have the same version but if you have a subscription, you get to use new features before others.

William

 

[deneban]

... Then they released the Platinum version and as I said it was discounted and on sale so I bought it. Think of the base features of Platinum as a kind of SP 1.5 as it included the UDS interface and several features from the subscriber version that I had seen discussed in the forum. Then SP2 came out and it built on what was in Platinum and added more features. It brought my TRS19 NA version up to the same level. So at this point one could consider the purchase of Platinum to have been a wasted purchase but it did give me access to all the DLC and three new routes so all in all it was worth the cost for that alone.
William

Hi wreeder,

Being that you upgraded your NA edition to "Platinum SP1" before you updated to "Platinum SP2", of course you now have UDS (unified Driver/Surveyor). Thank you for the thorough account of your experiences, but it does not prove the "standard edition SP2" has UDS as claimed in post#10.

In the event you have two TRS19 purchases - NA edition and Platinum edition, since "Platinum" is attached to your username, you were able to update the NA edition purchase to Platinum with the release of the Platinum SP2, and therefore your original NA installation now has UDS.

 

[derhildener]

Another option, if you just want an upgrade but keep your old content within the same version would be a Trainz Plus membership. Bear in mind that you would be on SP2 as well then. With TrainzPlus, you would have the same content loke in Platinum, all the features named above plus a DL-ticket. If i understand that right.

 

[wreeder]

Hi wreeder,

Being that you upgraded your NA edition to "Platinum SP1" before you updated to "Platinum SP2", of course you now have UDS (unified Driver/Surveyor). Thank you for the thorough account of your experiences, but it does not prove the "standard edition SP2" has UDS as claimed in post#10.

In the event you have two TRS19 purchases - NA edition and Platinum edition, since "Platinum" is attached to your username, you were able to update the NA edition purchase to Platinum with the release of the Platinum SP2, and therefore your original NA installation now has UDS.

I don't believe that is correct as borne our by others here in this thread. Yes, I do have two separate purchases. TRS19 NA SP2 bought through Steam and TRS Platinum SP2 bought from N3V.

William

 

[deneban]

I don't believe that is correct as borne our by others here in this thread. Yes, I do have two separate purchases. TRS19 NA SP2 bought through Steam and TRS Platinum SP2 bought from N3V.

William

Very well, I am going to conduct a test to determine which is correct. I have two TRS19 purchases on two computers. I will uninstall TRS19 on my auxiliary computer, then reinstall the standard edition online installer and see if it has UDS or not. I will get back to you.

 

[JCitron]

Very well, I am going to conduct a test to determine which is correct. I have two TRS19 purchases on two computers. I will uninstall TRS19 on my auxiliary computer, then reinstall the standard edition online installer and see if it has UDS or not. I will get back to you.

If I'm not mistaken, these features are in all versions and get turned on by your login and account credentials on the My Trainz server. This means that the Platinum version is associated with your account now even if you install the plain version. As soon as you login, these features will be there.

 

[Christopher824]

Very well, I am going to conduct a test to determine which is correct. I have two TRS19 purchases on two computers. I will uninstall TRS19 on my auxiliary computer, then reinstall the standard edition online installer and see if it has UDS or not. I will get back to you.

No need for test, here is the skinny...

 

[deneban]

No need for test, here is the skinny...

Hi Christopher, posted that (see post 9), but a few folks here believe otherwise. Someone said those web postings are out of date. A test should get everyone on the same page.

If I'm not mistaken, these features are in all versions and get turned on by your login and account credentials on the My Trainz server. This means that the Platinum version is associated with your account now even if you install the plain version. As soon as you login, these features will be there.

Hi John. If that is the case, why are there two discrete online installers for Standard and Platinum? Platinum is the bigger download because it has more features (Content Store / Unified Driver-Surveyor).

 

[Christopher824]

Hi Christopher, posted that (see post 9), but a few folks here believe otherwise. Someone said those web postings are out of date. A test should get everyone on the same page.

Please see post #20 and post #29, then put two and two together.. PS.. Plus is better than Platinum? That might be a question.

 

[deneban]

Please see post #20 and post #29, then put two and two together..

Yes, thank you Christopher for bringing that in.

 

[KotangaGirl]

Post #31. That's all new. When I downloaded Platinum last year there was only a 'one size duz all' download option for TS2019/TRS19 for Windows.

The question is if I go for a standard download at a future time because I don't want all the bells and whistles and extra junk in that installation will I actually get the standard version?

 

[Christopher824]

Post #31. That's all new. When I downloaded Platinum last year there was only a 'one size duz all' download option for TS2019/TRS19 for Windows.

The question is if I go for a standard download at a future time because I don't want all the bells and whistles and extra junk in that installation will I actually get the standard version?

I don't want to try to go backwards, so someone else will have to do the 'trial', how about you deneban?

 

[deneban]

I don't want to try to go backwards, so someone else will have to do the 'trial', how about you deneban?

Yes I said I would do it on my auxiliary computer. But since that computer continually broadcasts an internet radio station, I have to wait for no listener count to dump (reboot) the machine. I have already done the uninstall. Should take 24-48 hours to have the results.

The question is if I go for a standard download at a future time because I don't want all the bells and whistles and extra junk in that installation will I actually get the standard version?

I will get the answer for you in 24-48 hours.

 

[Christopher824]

I will get the answer for you in 24-48 hours.

See you in 24-48 hours.

 

[deneban]

Test Results

JCitron (John) is correct. Even though I did a clean install of the standard edition installer, and went with the ordinary patch stream "TRS19", I still received the Platinum version. The test would need to be conducted by someone who does not have any Platinum registration associated with their Trainz credentials in order for the test to be definitive.

That means that if you have bought a standard (or regional) edition and then a platinum edition, the standard/regional edition can be upgraded with no additional charge.

 

[1611mac]

reconsidered and removed original content of this post...
I now offer this page which is the SP2 release blurb and defines in detail the different packages.
https://www.trainzportal.com/News/view/trs19-service-pack-2-released

 

[KotangaGirl]

JCitron (John) is correct. Even though I did a clean install of the standard edition installer, and went with the ordinary patch stream "TRS19", I still received the Platinum version. The test would need to be conducted by someone who does not have any Platinum registration associated with their Trainz credentials in order for the test to be definitive.

That means that if you have bought a standard (or regional) edition and then a platinum edition, the standard/regional edition can be upgraded with no additional charge.

Thanks for running the test. It is annoying though that it's only possible to download the latest version and not anything I purchased earlier. Excuse me while I go and make even more paranoid backups of my SP1 tinware standard version of TS2019.

 

[deneban]

Thanks for running the test. It is annoying though that it's only possible to download the latest version and not anything I purchased earlier. Excuse me while I go and make even more paranoid backups of my SP1 tinware standard version of TS2019.

You're quite welcome. My advice would be :

1) Get your SP1 user data folder in tip-top shape (DBR and resolve as many faults and missings as possible)
2) Copy it to a place I will call "User2"
3) Download the online installer as a new separate installation, what I will call Prgm2. Do not use the patch.
4) Point Prgm2 (SP2) at User2, download any DLC and do a DBR. See if everything lands on its feet and plays nicely.
5) If step 4 doesn't pan out, you still have your original Sp1 and user data folder safe and sound elsewhere. To use the SP1 program again, you will need to make a handful of minor registry changes for the cdp filetype and installation location, nothing earth shattering, I can send you the specifics, I have it all traced out.
6) If Prgm2 and User2 are playing nice, keep that as your new working TRS19 SP2.
7) Someday in the future when you are confident with SP2, delete the SP1. Keep your original user data folder archived. Or maybe skip this step and use the SP1 set as a fallback resource if some asset misbehaves or is overwritten.