TRS 12 IS RUBBISH!!!

[fsbrown]

Wow

I'm relatively new to Trainz, less than a year, but I find that TS12 superior to the three previous versions I own. On my quad processor 4mb system every route I can find loads in 30 seconds or less (except for some multiplayer exceptions) and the biggest problems I have are the server for multiplayer and more people participating. Admittedly the dls and its content could stand improvements and editing for missing assets.

Perhaps some regular maintenance on your system would help. I know that the minumum requirements for your system are not going to give you completely acceptable results but the new program was written to work better with more speed and memory than the minimum, but that is pretty much a given for just about any program.

Hope you find happiness somewhere.

 

[alex217]

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[clam1952]

@ alex217
Bit late its over and done with, see post 19

 

[enginewhistle]

I see no reason to make a rant about TS12. It's one of the best train simulators out there that you can buy right now. An easier way to not make a rant is to ask somebody for help if your trying to do something such as... well... me trying to reskin I really don't see any point in making a rant at all and I also don't see why anybody would avoid TS12 either.

 

[William0d0]

Please calm down. I know it can be really really annoying sometimes but we all have to face these problems. I am sure that someone will help you with these problems. There is no need to have a tourettes outburst.

Polite words cannot express my initial impression of TS2010.

But I saw something in it I liked and stuck with the game.

 

[RRSignal]

Um, the OP acknowledged that his rant was more-or-less uncalled for and apologized, hence Malc's wise advice to just let this go.

I have, after much tweaking, found a suitable workaround- Running the game under Direct X at a screen resoloution of 1024x768, using 16-bit color seems to have solved many of my problems- The frame rates are a bit jerky in scenery intensive areas, otherwise, it does fairly well in this mode- Meanwhile, I will withhold using the DLS until the compatibility problems are resolved, and I must offer my sincerest apologies to all at N3V- The Game is NOT "Rubbish"- admins please feel free to remove my comment if you wish- I'm a hot tempered idiot. To Zec- Perhaps I should have known, however, I passed all of the Benchmarking tests, so I assumed all was well

Thanks to all who aided me, and to those who rightfully upbraided me- I will shut up and go away now,


My best to all :'(

 

[alex217]

@ alex217
Bit late its over and done with, see post 19

Sorry I dont pay attention. I am always rushing through things.

 

[warriorpeter]

TS 12

I find TS 12 very limited only so many routes on it how about Melbourne train system that has so many lines that would be more interested in Australia Trainz fans

 

[JCitron]

I find TS 12 very limited only so many routes on it how about Melbourne train system that has so many lines that would be more interested in Australia Trainz fans

So what's stopping you from building it?

Think of Trainz TS12 as a giant train-set, or a better thought would be an unlimited model railroad. What's even better is there's no mess, no waste of materials other than electrons, and the only things holding you back are your imagination and your computer's capabilities.

John

 

[Wyonate]

This is why I still run 06. I just wanna run the game. I don't wanna search for days on end for something only to find out that it isn't compatable. I am NOT gonna shell out $150 for locos because they only one out there is payware, not when I can make my own. This game isn't what it used to be. And after hearing some of these complaints, I will never buy TS12.

 

[oknotsen]

Exaggerating a bit maybe?

I don't wanna search for days on end for something only to find out that it isn't compatable.

More and more is compatable each day.

I am NOT gonna shell out $150 for locos because they only one out there is payware

O common, now you are really exaggerating. Loads and loads is free downloadable from DLS, just like for 2006. Did you really think they all of a sudden put a price tag on the stuff the community makes for free? Take a deep breath.

not when I can make my own.

You still can.

This game isn't what it used to be.

Indeed; it evolved, grown.
In most aspects it is still the same: A train simulator in which you can build your own stuff.

Every new version has "child sicknesess". I am pretty sure TRS2006 was crap in their first version and "OMG 2004 is so much better", but it got past that stage. Same will happen (or is already happening) with TS12.

 

[wholbr]

So what's stopping you from building it?

Think of Trainz TS12 as a giant train-set, or a better thought would be an unlimited model railroad. What's even better is there's no mess, no waste of materials other than electrons, and the only things holding you back are your imagination and your computer's capabilities.

John

Hi everybody.
I have to agree with what John has said there all too often the problems encountered with the latest software programs can be down to the outdated system and hardware the user has. It certainly is no good thinking of moving to the latest simulation program on the market unless you also think prior to purchase whether you’re a system is up to handling what you are about to place on it and for all practical requirements, that certainly is well above the minimum requirements laid down by producer in almost all circumstances.

With “the other ” 2012 rail simulator there was huge criticism of its shortcomings when it was launched a few months ago. However, as someone who had few problems with it ( with the exception of one route) I came to the conclusion along with many others that the problem lay in the fact that the systems of many of the users just could not handle the new requirements. In fact I firmly believe that many of them did not have the hardware they often advertised in their signatures.

Due to lack of time I have now somewhat moved on from rail simulation and route creation and moved into photography and video creation as a new hobby as it takes up less time. But once again even on that forum members are continuously advising others to make sure they have the necessary system and hardware before buying the latest very expensive software or diving into the creation of huge projects unless they are a sure their system is going to be up to it.

As for the DLS problems and had never ending patching that always seems to be necessary in all versions of trainz, well if you treat it as a hobby rather than a game that should give you the necessary mental attitude see it through.

I really do miss trainz and this forum but as stated simulators do take up a lot of time which I really do not have at present, perhaps someday i will again

Bill

 

[BLACKWATCH]

More and more is compatable each day.

But there is still a lot that is not compatible, plus a lot that has been "fixed" that is more faulty now than it was before the idiots started "fixing" it.

With more users coming into the sim since Xmas, are you willing to give up your use of the sim to spend time on these forums, teaching others who can't read a manual, how to get the faults sorted ?

 

[Cactushead]

Something I don't understand. The original poster said that his comp met or exceeded requirments. When I got my copy of 12, I noticed one of the minimum requirements was a CPU of 3.3ghz. I'm running 12 with an Intel at 2.8ghz, and ain't having no problems. Now, I did have two issues with it. Object rotation, and heighth adjustments. But I came up here and the nice people told me how to get them to work right, and now I have a trainz sim that I just love the getgo out of. I would imagine that by the time I'm done with this route, the main line of my fictional rr, Eden Rail Inc. will be over 3K miles long. I thot 04 was great, but 12 has them all beat up black and blue and bleeding.

 

[Beattie]

Cactushead;923199]Something I don't understand. The original poster said that his comp met or exceeded requirments. When I got my copy of 12, I noticed one of the minimum requirements was a CPU of 3.3ghz. I'm running 12 with an Intel at 2.8ghz, and ain't having no problems. snip~[

Well it depends on if you cpu is single or dual core as then your 2.8 is doubled to well 5.6ghz total. I mean mine is 2.8ghz but its a quad core which i like so I can have two cores running the game and the other for mult tasking teamspeak, skype web open etc. And graphic card and ram also play a factor in here.

 

[j_maybury]

But there is still a lot that is not compatible, plus a lot that has been "fixed" that is more faulty now than it was before the idiots started "fixing" it.

With more users coming into the sim since Xmas, are you willing to give up your use of the sim to spend time on these forums, teaching others who can't read a manual, how to get the faults sorted ?

I would imagine, that's because some people are fixing them to work in ts12 but dialing the the build number back so it will work in trs2006 or 04 when they shouldn't, as trs2006 will see it as a up date when in fact it.s a corrupt file as far as trs2006 or 04 is concerned.
I guess it will all get sorted out in the end. but lets face it we all knew this sort of thing would happen, once it was out there for all to have a go at. that being said, something had to be done to move forward, there was far to much in the way of assets for Auran to sort out alone, And I would also imagine N3V would never allow for the time and resources it would take to fix it all.
But for now as far as ts12 is concerned, all the pluses out weigh all the minuses.

 

[RRSignal]

Well it depends on if you cpu is single or dual core as then your 2.8 is doubled to well 5.6ghz total. I mean mine is 2.8ghz but its a quad core which i like so I can have two cores running the game and the other for mult tasking teamspeak, skype web open etc. And graphic card and ram also play a factor in here.

In addition, processor architecture, ability to branch-predict, cache, etc. all play a role as well. Modern processors are generally (but not always) better in this regard than the minimum-spec processors suggested for running Trainz.

 

[Wyonate]

More and more is compatable each day.

O common, now you are really exaggerating. Loads and loads is free downloadable from DLS, just like for 2006. Did you really think they all of a sudden put a price tag on the stuff the community makes for free? Take a deep breath.

You still can.

Indeed; it evolved, grown.
In most aspects it is still the same: A train simulator in which you can build your own stuff.

Every new version has "child sicknesess". I am pretty sure TRS2006 was crap in their first version and "OMG 2004 is so much better", but it got past that stage. Same will happen (or is already happening) with TS12.

I understand what you are saying, and thanks for the reply. I figured that everyone thought I was a trash talking, complaining fool after the last time I posted over here. (Lol). I like most things that I've heard about ts12 but then there are things that I really don't like. Maybe the $150 might be a little far fetched but that is all that I have seen because I haven't bought a fct yet. I was and still am planning on getting one but this laptop don't seem to be able to handle the game so well so I started reskinning and am kinda hooked on it, for now. I looked through USA Pics in the Screenshots section on the forums and I haven't seen much for newer content (new age locomotives) and thats what I like to run. Seems that if thats what I run then I'm stuck with paying for JR locos and the ones I'd want to have are all $20 bucks a pop. I have a bad feeling I'd blow a bunch of money after I bought the first one. I went onerboard at WoT one day. Maybe I'll make a trip down to BestBuy and get another "Real" computer and order Trainz12, but I am leaning towards Train10 for now.. if I can find 10.

 

[Enzo1]

So what's stopping you from building it?

Think of Trainz TS12 as a giant train-set, or a better thought would be an unlimited model railroad. What's even better is there's no mess, no waste of materials other than electrons, and the only things holding you back are your imagination and your computer's capabilities.

John

I may only have TRS 2010, But i will agree with that lol

 

[Wyonate]

I may only have TRS 2010, But i will agree with that lol

Hey Enzo1 :wave:
I thought you had 12 for some reason. This is NATe from Frank's forum. I have a different name here because I forgot my password and my e-mail was already used and I couldn't get a new password for some reason over there. Anyhow... Do you have anyproblems getting content to work in 10?