TLR Permormance Impact?

[boleyd]

Does anyone notice non-TLR sessions having longer delay recently. I have had delays approaching a minute. The train might set idle for almost 45 seconds, then resume its intended function properly. The place of the delay is where I believe the N3V/AI code would be calculating its next move.

 

[JCitron]

Does anyone notice non-TLR sessions having longer delay recently. I have had delays approaching a minute. The train might set idle for almost 45 seconds, then resume its intended function properly. The place of the delay is where I believe the N3V/AI code would be calculating its next move.

I've noticed the same and was wondering if the code changes for TLR are affecting regular AI operations.

 

[wreeder]

TLR in my opinion is still in a very early stage of development. They are clearly just using driver commands to move trains so I guess they could be modifying some driver commands that could effect computer controlled trains.

 

[boleyd]

Sacrificing a past product in the race for cash. I can see why so many people remain with an older version of N3V products. Making existing products sacrificial in an effort to add new features end up with loosing some customers and gaining some. The $bean counters then wonder why the bottom line remains stagnate despite the expensive new feature.

 

[pware]

Sacrificing a past product in the race for cash. I can see why so many people remain with an older version of N3V products. Making existing products sacrificial in an effort to add new features end up with loosing some customers and gaining some.

Some relevant quotes:-

In a time of rapid change, standing still is the most dangerous course of action.

Standing still is the fastest way of moving backwards in a rapidly changing world.

If you aren't growing and evolving, you're standing still, and the rest of the world is surging ahead.

I, for one, would not be happy using a program (such as Trainz) that did not change or keep up with the technology and provide new features. New hardware capabilities are useless if the software you are running cannot use or benefit from them. A program that offers nothing new will be left behind and become extinct.

Without those $bean counters Trainz would have disappeared with Auran. N3V is not a charity for train hobbyists.

According to Tony H, the Trainz Plus subscription offering (criticised by some in these forums as a "threat") has been so successful that N3V now have a more stable cash flow and have been able to employ more programmers.

The new features have renewed my interest in the Trainz product and while I may not use all of them, I can see how they can be used to create better and more realistic routes and sessions - and who does not want that?

But you don't have to use the new features. Trainz Plus and TRS22 still come with Surveyor 1.0 as a standard "old" feature. You don't have to upgrade to the latest version either. TRS12 is, I believe, still running just as well as it ever did for those "so many people who remain with an older version of N3V products" (do you have the figures for that?)

TLR is very much a work in progress and, I suspect, it has yet to be fully optimised.

Dick, don't stand still, move forward with the rest of us and take from the new features what you want or need.

 

[boleyd]

I have been heavily involved in technology all of my life. I kept abreast and was well paid. However, in retirement I decided to just use technology. I stopped reading all of the literature and just concentrated on Trains and a flight sim (complete with pedals and controls). Trainz appeared to be immune to the tech rat-race and thus was attractive for a retirement hobby. It is the reason I have dropped back to Trainz 2019 for "adjusting" my routes. I hoped that it would be immune from the constant "change is good" mantra.

I went through the multiple PC 's . Had 3 at one time. All gone. I now have my first pre-built PC and it works quite well (most of the time). If something breaks I may just buy another and avoid the techno-babble on the virtues of its various components and software. In the meantime the home-built PC sets on a shelf needing a bios chip.

 

[pware]

Alas, the "techno rat-race" is a reality of modern life. Any producer of goods or services that does not keep up will soon be out of business. The "change is good" mantra is ultimately driven by both ends of the market - from competition between the manufacturers to produce a (short term at least) market winner and the customers who are constantly demanding more for less while claiming that last years model is no longer good enough.

Your statement "If something breaks I may just buy another" (a sentiment that I also follow) is a symptom of the speed of this change. There was a time when we would have taken our faulty computer to a repair shop but today it is usually far cheaper to buy a newer and far better computer. As an example the only hardware component that I have upgraded in recent years was the GPU but to do that today often requires a matching upgrade to the power supply and sometimes the motherboard as well. Cheaper and easier to buy a new computer.

The same applies to software. TRS12 in its final form was a great program but by its end it was "old technology" - 32 not 64 bit. When T:ANE (64 bit) was released I ran a test with the same route and session in both versions running side-by-side in separate windows on the same computer. Despite all the bugs and issues in that first release of T:ANE the difference in performance was enough to make me switch over to T:ANE.

If you are happy with TRS19 (another great version of Trainz) then by all means stick with it. When a version reaches its end of life support date it will certainly be immune from the change is good mantra but it will still keep working as long as the hardware still functions.

 

[boleyd]

I will await the "end-of-life" declaration. Then I will know I am really safe. I do use TRS22 to operate my route. Might as well take advantage of all the "improvements", with minimal risk.