So What Are We Going To Do NOW!
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Really guys things are what you want them to be. You have your forum, DLS and chat. Relax and enjoy the ride.
Cheers and Happy Holidays to all.
AJ
It's also the fear of them suddenly disappearing.
However, they aren't going anywhere as far as I know!
Running the forum and chat are expenses that the court may deem as unnecessary.Really guys things are what you want them to be. You have your forum, DLS and chat. Relax and enjoy the ride.
Cheers and Happy Holidays to all.
AJ
It has nothing to do with any court.
As Aidan said "Trainz IP is held but Auran Games and this is a profitable company!!! Auran Developments which is a separate company is the company that when into adminstration this company hired all the staff, hence why they were all fired. Thus the Trainz IP as well as all the products related to Trainz are still owned by Auran (ITrainz, DLS, Source Code and Art source)."
Here: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=19926
It appears some people need a picture to understand.
slave-driver
Sacramento Nothern Lives
Everyones comprehension abilities very. I under stood Aidan's post the first time around but not everyone did evidentaly. That's OK. As long as everyone does now. (I doubt it
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Bill
)Bill
It's a nice diagram, but doesn't convince me of anything. It will all depend very much on the complex nature of the corporate structure, Australian corporate and bankruptcy law and the legal maneuvering by the many parties involved, all of which I know nothing about. Speculating about it may be fun, but it is still just speculation.
I have, by the way, been there and done that.
I have, by the way, been there and done that.
Just read this guys and judge for yourself!!
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=19927
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=19927
Ish
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=19927
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=19927
Ish
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I find it hard to believe that any financial institution would advance funds to one related entity (Auran Development) without holding the Parent (Auran Holdings) financially responsible. The truth is Auran is on the hook.
P.S. George, as a accountant, been there and done that with lots of folks.
Hopefully this will not be needed Ed, but the Scouts saying "be prepared" could be something to remembered. But this thought has already crossed my mind.I'm far too busy running around screaming and rending my clothes and gnashing my teeth to address this post.
Actually, the TrainzProRoutes Download Depot is already prepared to absorb the entire DLS if need be, and we are preparing our forums in case the worst should happen.
Now, back to the panic already in progress......
Ed
Like many here I too would be prepared to pay for more versions and if needed some extra money for the DLS.
For now though I think we all should sit back and wait and see how Auran is after Christmas and the New Year. In previous years Auran have been on holidays for 2 weeks at this time. So maybe after they have had there Holidays then start the New Year with new ideas and a brighter future.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
Craig
goodell911
http://www.gaurc.us
First of all, I'd would like to extend my confidence in Auran. Take a moment and look at the big picture; Auran as a corporation isn't going to fold as a result of the failure of just one of it's projects (granted a major one) any more than Pepsi would if Mountain Dew ever failed. I admit that's a rather grand example, but the theory holds true. Auran says to be calm, and I believe them.
Secondly, the Trainz series has created a huge and loyal following from beginners to professionals. Our community exists because we want it to, not because a corporation tells us it can. Auran is certainly in control of the software, but we are in control of our community and the viability of its future. The Trainz community will exist in some form for as long as we wish it to be so; Auran or not.
Thirdly, there are many, many sites dedicated to Trainz. The ones already mentioned represent only a very small few. Some sites are merely personal pages belonging to loyal fans, while others are larger and more organized. My point is that our options for resources extend far beyond Auran, and we really have no reason to panic.
Change of any kind is always sad and frightening, that's human nature. The recent events at Auran are unfortunate and conjure perfectly normal emotions. I am deeply sadened by the path life has chosen for our friends and mentors Lance and Alan, and I am concerned about what the future holds for Trainz... but that's life, and change is inevitable.
We should all take comfort and trust in what Aidan tells us, and in knowing that there are a great number of other places for us to gather. I am active on the Auran forum, participate in probably a dozen other Trainz forums and have a forum of my own. We should all take interest and time to participate in these other forums in addition to Auran's.
Those with deeper interest should consider joining a group or team. Sites like TrainzProRoutes, RazorbackRailway and others acheived their status and stability because of participation. There are lots of up and coming organizations looking for members with or without skills. Most of what I have learned has been from others... wouldn't have happened if I didn't participate.
The morale to the story is this: There is safety in numbers; stick together and we can conquer anything.
~Rick
narrowgauge
92 year oldTrainz veteran
Even if some of you are trained accountants, you can not know Auran Holdings corporate structure or motives, so everything said is empty speculation.
I suggest that you reconsider Aidans post, Paul's diagram accurately describes what we have been told..
1. Aidan is now employed by Auran Games who are his new employer. This occurred after the Auran Developments collapse and would indicate that Auran Games is an entity that will continue to trade. This would further suggest that Auran Holdings will continue in business. (Speculation)
2. What he tells us should be correct as he is the only person on this forum that the managment at Auran holdings have talked to and it is unlikely that he would post without prior discussions.
3. Auran Developments went into Voluntary Receivership which indicates they were unable to trade profitably, and I suggest this was not due to pressure from banks or other lenders. (Speculation).
Why do we humans take such delight in always picturing the worst aspects of any situation.
Cheers
Narrowgauge
Not an accountant but with 30 years experience in managment.
I suggest that you reconsider Aidans post, Paul's diagram accurately describes what we have been told..
1. Aidan is now employed by Auran Games who are his new employer. This occurred after the Auran Developments collapse and would indicate that Auran Games is an entity that will continue to trade. This would further suggest that Auran Holdings will continue in business. (Speculation)
2. What he tells us should be correct as he is the only person on this forum that the managment at Auran holdings have talked to and it is unlikely that he would post without prior discussions.
3. Auran Developments went into Voluntary Receivership which indicates they were unable to trade profitably, and I suggest this was not due to pressure from banks or other lenders. (Speculation).
Why do we humans take such delight in always picturing the worst aspects of any situation.
Cheers
Narrowgauge
Not an accountant but with 30 years experience in managment.
slave-driver
Sacramento Nothern Lives
And when they do that it draws attention to themselves and makes them feel important .
Bill
motorman1066
HAIL TRAMS HERE
Hey Dread,
Here's an idea that works:
Join a Trainz User Group. They are pretty self sufficient and support each other. They can create what needs to be created amongst themselves and can SHARE it amongst other groups. Besides, I'm pretty sure Auran will figure out shortly that siphoning off funds from a paying enterprise to support and pay out one that has failed, DOESN'T WORK. Take the world off accountants where nothing is ventured unless there is a guarantee of a buck to be made. Give the world back to technical people who actually HAVE a clue and CAN fix stuff.
Missed you at the Christmas party. I'm sure you had a good excuse that you will share with us in January.
Merry Christmas Buddy and I'll see you then.
Cheers
Sel
Here's an idea that works:
Join a Trainz User Group. They are pretty self sufficient and support each other. They can create what needs to be created amongst themselves and can SHARE it amongst other groups. Besides, I'm pretty sure Auran will figure out shortly that siphoning off funds from a paying enterprise to support and pay out one that has failed, DOESN'T WORK. Take the world off accountants where nothing is ventured unless there is a guarantee of a buck to be made. Give the world back to technical people who actually HAVE a clue and CAN fix stuff.
Missed you at the Christmas party. I'm sure you had a good excuse that you will share with us in January.
Merry Christmas Buddy and I'll see you then.
Cheers
Sel
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amigacooke
Well-known member
Even technical people expect to be paid.
amigacooke
Well-known member
Have you ever checked out the relationship of Disneyland Paris to the Disney Corporation?
