Merging 2010 into 2012

[clam1952]

Merge as normal, when you get the layers box appear with two identical layer names just rename one of them, doesn't matter which one, I just stick a 2 on the end.

 

[JCitron]

Is the merging process crashing in TS2012?

This is a bug that N3V is working on. I reported it to the Helpdesk awhile back, and the developers are aware of the issue.

John

 

[celje]

Is the merging process crashing in TS2012?
This is a bug that N3V is working on. I reported it to the Helpdesk awhile back, and the developers are aware of the issue.
John

Yes JCitron, I'm talking about TS12 and we both know, that merge don't work in this edition.
And Clam, i have a lot of experience with merging so i must denied your: ''Merge as normal, when you get the layers box appear with two identical layer names just rename one of them, doesn't matter which one, I just stick a 2 on the end''. This simple don't work in TS12, when you made all the steps,
the error is shown to send report to microsoft.
regards
celje

 

[clam1952]

It works for for me I'm afraid in Ts12 build 48249.

Possibly bug relating to size of route / capability of PC? or what version the routes being merged were created in initially.

Just tried merging two blank boards and it did not crash.

 

[JCitron]

Yes JCitron, I'm talking about TS12 and we both know, that merge don't work in this edition.
And Clam, i have a lot of experience with merging so i must denied your: ''Merge as normal, when you get the layers box appear with two identical layer names just rename one of them, doesn't matter which one, I just stick a 2 on the end''. This simple don't work in TS12, when you made all the steps,
the error is shown to send report to microsoft.
regards
celje

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

@Malc...

Blank baseboards work fine, but anything with content fails and it doesn't matter which version. Zec had me try two new built-in routes from TS12 and the same problem happened. So it's a bug...

John

 

[celje]

Just tried merging two blank boards and it did not crash.

Hello Clam
And what can i use this two blanc boards? I tried to merge Mojave with Avery, in TS12 of course and DB four together with Niedertalbahn( both ''cleaned'' in TS12). I said in one another thread that i succeed merging a small route (6 boards) with the bigger one( DB four together). And that's all i succeed. This is not enough, so i say, that merge is not good and not accurate in TS12. There are no problems in TS10 at all. If N3V will not repair this in SP1, then this will be the great handicap.

regards
celje

 

[clam1952]

What am I not doing then as I can merge with assets on boards.

In the interest of experimentation I have downloaded the following as they were designed to be merged

750mm BM Saupersdorf
750mm SM Leuben
750mm BM Klipphausen

And successfully merged all 3 in TS12 with no crash ok so they are small boards however they do merge.

Actually was a better merge than when I did them in 2010, board edges were discoloured in 2010.

as for fixing bugs, wait patiently it will probably be soon.

Edit we cross posted there: As I said this was a small 3 route merge as an example, however I merged a 400 board dem with a 500 od board one when I combined the two parts of my route which was also populated.

 

[celje]

What am I not doing then as I can merge with assets on boards.
In the interest of experimentation I have downloaded the following as they were designed to be merged

750mm BM Saupersdorf
750mm SM Leuben
750mm BM Klipphausen

And successfully merged all 3 in TS12 with no crash ok so they are small boards however they do merge.
Actually was a better merge than when I did them in 2010, board edges were discoloured in 2010.
as for fixing bugs, wait patiently it will probably be soon.
Edit we cross posted there: As I said this was a small 3 route merge as an example, however I merged a 400 board dem with a 500 od board one when I combined the two parts of my route which was also populated.

Interesting, post not show all the text you wrote, but when i quote then it is shown.
If i understand correct you merge two routes, one with 400 boards and second with 500 boards. Can you please give me the name of this routes so i will try to merge them.

 

[bushymo]

A LOAD OF ERRORS

I lost count of how many hours I spend yesterday downloading some UK assets to run on a British Type Layout I made in TRS 12, and quite a lot of it was just full of errors (those god forsaken red exclamation marks littered the TODAY list in CMP... Oh Dear!... Look at them all!... and there were quite a few warnings too (Yellow Exclamation Marks, and quite a lot of the assets just showed up red in surveyor....

Feeling totally disgusted with the whole thing, I took TRS 12 right off, and plan to re-install it later...because this present installation had become very bloated, and cluttered with assets, a lot of them that were simply not working and cluttering up the CMP... and I thought it was well past time for a total cleanup and re-install...sometimes it is best to start again fresh...

I find quite a few things that worked alright in TRS 10 just daint wanna work in 12, including the Southeern and other Mountain Class Locomotives... so...What's missing?

The original NR Wellcars produced by Boweavel and Co, work alright in 2010, but they simply do not like and refuse to work in 2012, so my only option there is to use the ones by 'Bombers'

i wanted to use some of magandys UK branch line items but there ware quite a few errors crop up in them...

This is only the tip of the iceberg as far is 2012 is concerned and it does pay to keep a couple of the older versions of TRS around (like those on Trainz Classics) to use when 2012 simply wants to spit the dummy when it is supposed to be the latest and best new version to use... I really have to wonder if moving on from TRS 06 is really such a good idea after all...
I also installed the SAR bluebird railcars and found that onlly one of them worked, and the other three had errors...
I had to do a great deal of work in getting the SAR 520 working and eventually did, but the SAR 502 and 504 are no good... because again, up pops that dreaded red exclamation mark or the orange faulty assets icon... a total shambles had become of my CMP....

I did have a copy of Trainz Classics with all the older versions of TRS on it, but I will need to get a new copy becuase the versions of TRS 04 and 06 had started to develop problems and became riddled with glitches like where the SAR centenary coach there turned white if you installed all of your assets that you had stored on CD's and a conflict developed which caused that, and 2004 would no longer run.... I would strongly recommend that Auran/N3V keep Trainz Classics in its range, so that members who do not like the latter versions can always have a copy of one of those early versions on, but if 2012 is supposed to be so good, why should anyone feel the need to go back, but there are times when one feels the need to keep hold of an older version

 

[colourlight]

Just to put the record straight The Razorback Railway is not a 2010 route. It was first made available as a download from the Razorback Railway website for 2004. I never bought 2006 so I don,t know if it was still an add on or a download for that version. It was built into 2009 and also 2010. Included in 2010 were three scenarios using the Razorback Railway route. However because it was a pretty old route by this time and changes had been made to the basic Trainz Program one scenario could not be completed at all and two did not end properly although you could still complete the required shunting. There was also a colliery missing and a number of platforms had twisted track although this didn,t affect train running. So if 2010 had problems with it then 2012 is bound to. I understand there is or will be an updated version for 2012. I have had spent many many hours modifying and playing the route in all three versions and although I have now converted to 2012 I still have fond memory,s of it. Long live The Razorback Railway.

 

[clam1952]

Interesting, post not show all the text you wrote, but when i quote then it is shown.
If i understand correct you merge two routes, one with 400 boards and second with 500 boards. Can you please give me the name of this routes so i will try to merge them.

It's my route I'm working on for three years and hasn't been released yet as it's still got a fair bit to do. Whether this is relevant or not but when I merged them I didn't have much else other than the stuff required for the route much of which are my own assets and builtins so basically it was lightweight install.


So I've tried something else large to merge, just in case it was luck on my part, going for the impossible I tried a merge of EK3 and Norfolk and Western Appalachian Coal, yes I know its illogical but ok for a test. Didn't crash just froze up or was taking an extremely long time to merge? anyway used task manager to exit.

Tried four other merges.
One crashed, two locked up, one merged after a long period of time. So not exactly very satisfactory, 1 merge out of 5 attempts on reasonable sized routes. I agree that this seems to be a bug. Guess I was lucky with my route!