Kuju's Rail Sim

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Sorry, I know that's a swear word for some loyal Trainz fans, but have you guys really taken a good UNBIASED look at it? Well I bought and installed it and it is REALLY good. In my humble opinion it is to TRS06 what TRS06 was to MSTS1.
Anyway, I hope the makers of TRS09 have taken a good look so thay know what they are up against, and if it is as good then I will certainly get a copy, but when I saw Rail Sim, I uninstalled TRS06, because to me it was just a waste of space on my hard drive. And please don't rant to me about 'loyalty', because I am loyal to no one or nothing that I've had to pay for. Whoever puts out the best (to me) product is who gets my bucks.
No, Rail Sim does not have a lot of content right now, but it will come, and if it is up to their current standards, then it is worth waiting for, I think. And you know what? Nothing improves a product or service like good stiff competition. The better Kuju's rail sim is, the better TRS09 will have to be to survive, and that's all that counts to you and I, the end users. Right?
I hope my opinion will be permitted in this forum. After all, it IS just my opinion.
Thankyou.:)
 
I got it a while ago. It is, in my opinion, a piece of shiny crap. It looks better, and has better crash physics but that is it. It caused my comp to start lagging until I uninstalled it. The forums are unfriendly, and hard to navigate and despite what it says on the back of the box, there is pretty much NO custom content. There is no way to easily download any content and if you ask or suggest custom content on the forums, the mods whine at you, lock your thread and tell you that they dont support custom content then tell you to buy their crummy route packs.

Also, they want you to buy new routes for rediculous prices. Also there is a huge lack of US stuff, only UP that kinda sucks. Also, if you suggest that they make US stuff, you get flamed for suggesting US "rubbish" and told to go play a "crappy" game like trainz.(so i did)

Finally, the route building software is horrible compared to trainz.

This was my unbiased opinion.
 
BTW, as a test, i posted a similar post on KRS forums saying that in my opinion TRS was better. It was immediatly deleted.

So TRS is also better because we respect ppls opinions better.
 
On my little vacation:o I got it and downloaded the patch and it made me want to come running back to trainz, I won't go into detail but I thought it was terrible!!!!

I look forward to trainz 2009 and the changes it brings.

Ive put it in 3 yard sales and can't give it away...........

Lorin:p
 
It's really just a visual upgrade of MSTS. Until it gives a user friendly envionment, it will always be to the side. There is Justin Cornell's GP38-2 at www.train-sim.com. That is the best piece of US content for it.

I think YOU are the one who needs an unbiased look at the sims. Have you seen anything default for TS2009. They look much better than anything produced for KRS www.railsimulator.com . Check www.auran.com/ts2009 and www.trainzdev fo much info on the bes Train Sim ever. It will not only look good, but it will have something Kuju can't touch, a user friendly environment.

TRS2006 looks a lot better than KRS if you have downloaded anything good. There are many more content fo TRS because, it's designed for everyday people to create content for. KRS is HARD to create for, everything must be to precise guidelines. That is why many creators have come back to Trainz.

MSTS II, I think will be the best looking, but I don't see as big of a user-friendly environment there when compared to TRS. www.tsinsider.com I bet you'll be uninstalling KRS once you've got that and TS2009!
 
I hope my opinion will be permitted in this forum. After all, it IS just my opinion.
Thankyou.:)[/quote]

Your Entitled to your opinion.
I've just uninstalled RS for the last time.
Kuju had the right idea, made their money back and pulled out, leaving others to try and patch up their errors.
Cheers
Pete.
 
At first it looked ok,but then there is more to a simulation than shiny looking locos,Auran has nothing to worry about,maybe the OP should read this thread:-

http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=76865

RS should not even be compared alongside MSTS or Trainz,in short it doesn't float my boat,on a more positive note credit has to be given to Derek and Adam for asistance on a one to one basis,still even after Mk2 upgrade its falls far short of what TRS/TC3 delivers,maybe the dispatcher is that flawed it cant be fixed,not prepared to wait another 6 months for critical fixes that should have been addressed in Mk1/Mk2,RSDL have made their bed........

Daz
 
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It caused my comp to start lagging until I uninstalled it.
Funny, RailSim performs far better on my computer than TRS ever did, and thats with lighting, shadows and shaders and higher draw distances, VS trs with no shadows, not saying anything of the nonexistant shaders

The forums are unfriendly, and hard to navigate
Ill have to somewhat agree with you here, however thats what UKtrainsim and Train-Sim are for :)
and despite what it says on the back of the box, there is pretty much NO custom content. There is no way to easily download any content and if you ask or suggest custom content on the forums, the mods whine at you, lock your thread and tell you that they dont support custom content then tell you to buy their crummy route packs. Also, they want you to buy new routes for rediculous prices. Also there is a huge lack of US stuff, only UP that kinda sucks. Also, if you suggest that they make US stuff, you get flamed for suggesting US "rubbish" and told to go play a "crappy" game like trainz.(so i did)

Have you looked at http://rail-sim.de/ alot of amazing custom content there. Justin Cornell has just released his GP38-2 on the TS file library.
For some quality reskins check my site
http://krs.gaurc.us/
For a vast variety of UK content check the UKTS file library
As for their route pack please explain how they are "Crummy"? It is nice to see a company put so much thought and research into a route like RSDL did with Isle of Wight, yes the 40 bucks is way over the top but thats more to do with the pathetic state of the US economy than anything else.
RSDL is a british company so of course their focus will be in the UK, thats a good thing in my opinion, atleast they will do it right, and we wont end up with the "Outback" Harlem line like in TRS.

Finally, the route building software is horrible compared to trainz.
Its just a matter of getting used to it, they are actualy very similar and you will be able to carry over most of your TRS experience, i tryed playing TRS a few days ago and found surveyor rather annoying, KRS has much better terrain sculpting tools, allowing your to use sizes from 5M to 500M, i dont know how i ever did without the smoothing tool either, the only major drawbacks in my opinion is tracklaying and the lack of a search feature.

Rail Sim is crap,the sound sucks,and the graphics suck.

Unbaised much?
I have some major problems with the sounds in RailSim but they are still far better than trainz, atleast the horn and engine sound doesnt fade in and out and there is doppler effect.
As a trainz user i dont see how you can say the graphics suck:o

It's really just a visual upgrade of MSTS. Until it gives a user friendly envionment, it will always be to the side. There is Justin Cornell's GP38-2 at www.train-sim.com. That is the best piece of US content for it.

Have you even looked at the routebuilder? Miles ahead of the sorry excuse for one MSTS had.

I think YOU are the one who needs an unbiased look at the sims. Have you seen anything default for TS2009. They look much better than anything produced for KRS www.railsimulator.com . Check www.auran.com/ts2009 and www.trainzdev fo much info on the bes Train Sim ever. It will not only look good, but it will have something Kuju can't touch, a user friendly environment.

Ummm yeah, im sure your all drooling over that excessively detailed SD40-2, but your missing the fact its only a normal mapping model, unless the Devs have truly lost their minds. Unless Auran is totally replacing the graphics engine it will be far from the "best train sim ever"


TRS2006 looks a lot better than KRS if you have downloaded anything good. There are many more content fo TRS because, it's designed for everyday people to create content for. KRS is HARD to create for, everything must be to precise guidelines. That is why many creators have come back to Trainz.
Quality over quantity, with the increase in graphics the content creation process becomes more difficult but the end result is worth it. True Kuju made a good few blunders in this area, but the real reason that TRS has more content is that it has been around 7 years and RailSim has been around just about 1 now.

MSTS II, I think will be the best looking, but I don't see as big of a user-friendly environment there when compared to TRS. www.tsinsider.com I bet you'll be uninstalling KRS once you've got that and TS2009!

MSTS II will no doubt be the best sim, just take a look at Flight Sim X.
Auran and its ancient graphics engine can not compete with one of the best game design studio's in the world.
Even then i doubt ill be uninstalling KRS, i doubt however TRS will make the end of the year on my hard drive.




Ok so heres my semi unbiased opinion

I started out with TRS back at the release of 06, i found it quite entertaining and enjoyed building my own routes and eventually got into reskins and sound editing. However when i tryed to create long or detailed prototypical route my frame rates would crash into the single digits. I would spend over two hours sometimes just to get some screenshots, half that time was watching load screens, items caching, or watching a pretty train slideshow. running trains? forget about it, the only place i could do that was on low poly routes like Dermmy's Eastern Kentucky.
When RailSim came out i immidietly got a copy. As soon as i played it for the first time i knew i was hooked. Starting out in the immense and beutifully modeled trainshed in Paddington station which i had visited in the summer. I smoothly pulled my HST out of the station towards Oxford. I had tried running London-Reading in TRS but the lag was too bad to even try driving. I watched as london slid past, sat down in the MK3's and looked out the window, got caught out by the AWS detector.... As i watched trains go by from the station i could here the rails shake as the train approached, the sound of the train rolling under overpasses. As the train rolled through the countryside dark cloud appeared on the horizon then faded away back to blue. Pulling out of reading i marvelled at the shiny surfaces of the Class 43 which looked just like the real thing.
Mabye just as a railfan i like the graphics, but i think RailSim has real potential. Even now from that first day the game has substantialy improved with various third party fixes and addon content. It is hard for a sim to come in when two are already firmly established with dedicated supporters but i think RailSim has already gathered a small but talented group of users.
Im open to what the future brings, i know i will be purchasing MSTS II and if auran can substantially improve on TRS i may even buy TRS 09.

my 2 cents
 
And very well said by all in reply to the right of opinion offered. Trainz is far more comfortable to be with and we don't really need lessons here on what TRS should need to do to 'keep up' with the competition. No need and TRS09 will show that.
 
I tried it out. I would say it is different than trainz. The learning curve on it makes me put off developing content for it.

Howard
 
Sometimes I wonder at these posts....

somebody comes along and throws out an opinion about Trainz or MSTS or KRS and everyone else flocks over to defend or agree. Certainly everyone is entitled to their opinion, and it's fine to express it here, but why get suckered in? Does the OP get a "finders fee" from KRS if he converts a Trainzer to KRS? What's the motivation here?

If I stumbled upon a great Train Sim, I would keep it to myself...(oh wait....I have and I do). I don't go post on other Train Sim Forums to try to convert anyone!

How utterly useless and senseless this is!

I'm happy for you guys that like KRS, please; enjoy the game!
 
I tried KRS with MK2 patch and it worked better than before such as working dynamic brakes but TRS is still the best train simulator. I'm not sure how dynamic brakes should work. In KRS, there's a slight delay before the dynamic brakes engage.
 
I haven't brought it yet im just waiting till i can get Aus stuff for it then i might buy it. Would probably give it back since i suck at cab mode and ive heard DCC isn't on it:confused:
 
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Here we go again...

If you like railsimulator Guess what!

NO ONE CARES!

THIS IS TRAINZ FORUM NOT RAIL SIMULATOR FORUM!

And also trainz vs railsimulator it's really is a matter of personal perfernce.:o

but the thing is.... This is trainz forum not a railsimulator forum so if you want to speak of railsim go to railsim forum!

~CLOSE THIS THREAD~
 
The bottom line is 'Each to his/her own'.
I have been with Auran Trainz since their very first release.
In the meantime I have tried other Rail Sims including MS and Kuju.
Each time I always return to Trainz, but each simulation has its own merits, for drivers only, RS is a very good sim.
But for overall game-play and diversity Trainz must come out on top.
That's my 2 pence worth
Cheers
Pete.
 
I actually quite like Rail Simulator. The only problem is, THE STUPID TRACK BUILDER MODE DOESN'T WORK AS WELL AS TRAINZ! If it did, I would be converted.

Trainz 1:0 Rail Simulator
 
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