John Lennon – if Google can do it so can Trainz

[K4driver]

It's a support forum for Trainz. Nothing more nothing less.

+1...and a place where Noobs annoy the vets of Trainz...

Anyway...I am all for a Music section...Fender Mustang,Strat, and Acoustic player here. who loves the Beatles and Bruce Springsteen is my all time favorite. A real Good favorite new band is The Gaslight Anthem. Between John and Paul...I prefer the vocals of John, Paul just sounded to common and polished up in the studio. Lennon sounded real.

 

[amigacooke]

and a place where Noobs annoy the vets of Trainz...

Everyone was a noob at some time.

 

[pfx]

Wish I hadn’t bothered now.

Casper

I think you were right to start the thread. It's just a pity it got hijacked and went totally OT. Perhaps the mods could close it before things get too heated.

 

[wholbr]

Hi Everybody.
to get back on the thread,a group of us were discussing the career and death of John Lennon later on yesterday evening at an hotel I am staying at. I was surprised that the general consensus amongst all six of us was that John Lennon during his time with the Beatles was a fantastic songwriter and performer and while he had Paul McCartney alongside him they made the Beatles the greatest band the world has ever seen (or group as it was known then).

Having said that, we agreed that on leaving the Beatles and through his involvement with Yoko he very much lost his way both musically and personally especially as far as his British fans of the day where concerned. He mostly lived out his life in America which meant he lost his roots with Merseyside and Britain in general. He is remembered in his solo career for one or two memorable songs but that would seem to be it.

Many in Britain would argue that even prior to the breakup of the Beatles they were being surpassed by the Rolling Stones and several other bands as it would seem that the Yoko involvement led to strains amongst the other members of the group and a dip in the quality of their last recordings.

Had John stayed with the Beatles without Yoko's involvement and the Beatles remained together then perhaps they would be in the same position as the stones today. However, once John had decided to go it alone he became just another middle ranking artist and in the view of many British people an American artist at that.

Speaking for myself rather than the group that where discussing him, I will always remember as a teenager seeing the Beatles live at the Bristol Colston Hall in the week that their recording "please please me" made it into the British top 10. What a night, and what a memory to have of that great era the 1960s

The consensus among our group was that he is probably perceived better by the generations that have come to know him through his music with the Beatles and his personal music written after that era than those of us with memories of his actual time

Bill

 

[itareus]

.....There's another trains/Beatles link - didn't Ringo do the narration in Thomas the Tank Engine?......

Yep...

"The show has featured celebrity storytellers Ringo Starr (1984–1986)....."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_and_Friends

 

[robd]

I vaguely remember seeing the Beatles in 1961/2, just before their rise to fame, at a summer fare in a park in Flixton, near Urmston in Manchester, I think it was Chassen Park, can't be sure though it was a long time ago!

Apparently Ringo, or was it the other? 5th or 'forgotten' Beatle? Pete Best, I think, was his name, I am not sure. Anyway, whoever it was autographed some drum sticks and gave them away to individuals in the crowd. I didn't pay much attention at the time as I was only 9yrs old.

What price those drum sticks now?

 

[wholbr]

I vaguely remember seeing the Beatles in 1961/2, just before their rise to fame, at a summer fare in a park in Flixton, near Urmston in Manchester, I think it was Chassen Park, can't be sure though it was a long time ago!

Apparently Ringo, or was it the other? 5th or 'forgotten' Beatle? Pete Best, I think, was his name, I am not sure. Anyway, whoever it was autographed some drum sticks and gave them away to individuals in the crowd. I didn't pay much attention at the time as I was only 9yrs old.

What price those drum sticks now?

Hi Rob
if it was just before their rise to fame which was brought about by the " please please me" single and following album it must have been Ringo Starr.

Just like the programs for the Colston Hall concert that I went to, your drumsticks like my program would have undoubtedly fetched a small fortune today.

But then I also had a BSA Goldstar motorbike from my ill spent youth which I gave away in the late 70s after it and standing idle in my garage for many years. if only we had known how the things we thought nothing of then would have been valued today.

But then that's hindsight

Bill

 

[JimDep]

There's another trains/Beatles link - didn't Ringo do the narration in Thomas the Tank Engine?

II actually preferred John Lennon's songs written after the Beatles dissolved; songs like Cold Turkey, Mother, Yer Blues etc had an edge to them that I really liked. Bitter, sure, but I prefer that to saccharine.

Ringo was the best narrator, IMO. "Diesel's Devious Deed" was classic Ringo! "We can't , We won't ! " Oweeee !

One post Beatles Lennon song I like is Working Class Hero.......if I'm getting the title right. Great Tune. I have just one more thing to say about Yoko..........
EEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Somebody said this thread was getting heated? THE HORROR !!!!

 

[robd]

Does anyone remember the movies the Beatles made, Help, and then A Hard Days Night? I think that's the correct order, it could have been the other way round.

I remember going to see one of them, I may have seen both at the cinema, can't remember though, it must have been 1964/5/6ish, can't remember which one and didn't really follow, and indeed, didn't understand the plot, like most of the audience. When the singing and playing scenes came round though, the audience were screaming.

I have, since then, watched the movies and they are total rubbish!!

 

[JimDep]

Does anyone remember the movies the Beatles made, Help, and then A Hard Days Night? I think that's the correct order, it could have been the other way round.

I have, since then, watched the movies and they are total rubbish!!

Hard Day's Night and then Help in 1965. I remember seeing the premier for HDN at a Piccadilly Circus theater as a young kid in September of 1964. There was a huge stack of their heads above the marque. Talk about the hysteria that was going on, that was really exciting.

Certainly the plots of Hard Days Night or Help won't make anyone forget about Gone with the Wind, but the music was great.

 

[wholbr]

Certainly the plots of Hard Days Night or Help won't make anyone forget about Gone with the Wind, but the music was great.

Hi Everybody.
As far as rubbish was concerned "hard days night" and "help" certainly ranked well alongside Elvis Presley's films but I remember like everybody in their youth at that time we all queued for hours to see them.

By the time Elvis was making his later films we had all learned our lesson by staying in the pub rather than the queue. Thankfully the Beatles never made any more for which everybody I am sure was eternally grateful.

Bill

 

[motorbreath]

Hi Everybody.
As far as rubbish was concerned "hard days night" and "help" certainly ranked well alongside Elvis Presley's films but I remember like everybody in their youth at that time we all queued for hours to see them.

By the time Elvis was making his later films we had all learned our lesson by staying in the pub rather than the queue. Thankfully the Beatles never made any more for which everybody I am sure was eternally grateful.

Bill

Well, there was Yellow Submarine, although with other actors voices, Magical Mystery Tour, which is only good if you have thoroughly squeegeed off your third eye with psilocybin, and the ill fated Let it Be, which turned into a film about the Beatles going down the toilet... But the classic roof top performance came out of it.

Hard Days Night? I look at it as an extended length music video.

Help? I really like that one. It does have some classic hilarious moments in my opinion. Not the most cohesive film around, but I like it either way.

 

[JimDep]

Hi Everybody.
Thankfully the Beatles never made any more for which everybody I am sure was eternally grateful.

Bill

But then we got sucker punched by "The Monkees" every week. Some "genious" took the concept of the Beatles' worst attempts at comedy from HELP and turned it into an obnoxious TV series.

Years later Michael Nesmith cursed the music business for ever by introducing MTV.

 

[rjhowie]

And to make this even more mawkish there was news this week that the Monkees are talking about a revival. This is worse than MTS.......