IIRC, this is where you can get it.
That can be acquired from many of my more recent models, which is probably why I've never noticed that it was missing before. A guaranteed source is the Baldwin 8-16D 2-6-0 pack.
Cheers,
Ben
Help with Bdaneal's steamers.
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Cheers,
Ben
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Hi Ben and a very big thank you for the quick response
Bob V
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ohiotransit9
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I am missing the following KUID's:
kuid:96914:504860
kuid:96914:54104
kuid:96914:504863
kuid:96914:504833
kuid:96914:504870
kuid:96914:54104
kuid:96914:504865
I have Trainz 2.6 (TRS2006)
These are from all of Ben Neal's Generic Steam Locomotives.
-Brandon:wave:
kuid:96914:504860
kuid:96914:54104
kuid:96914:504863
kuid:96914:504833
kuid:96914:504870
kuid:96914:54104
kuid:96914:504865
I have Trainz 2.6 (TRS2006)
These are from all of Ben Neal's Generic Steam Locomotives.
-Brandon:wave:
firestorm32
Active member
I've been trying to get some of the same engines to work. Thanks to this thread, I've gotten some of them to run, though CM still lists various errors with most of them. There are four, however, that don't seem to work properly. They might run in CAB mode, I dunno; I'm not expert enough to use that mode. They do not, however, run in DCC mode. They TRY to move, but ultimately sit there, even when pushed from behind by other engines. If the other engines are moving, they can push these four for a bit, but eventually they slow to a stop. The affected engines are:
Baldwin Heavy 2-8-2M
Baldwin Heavy 2-8-2H
Baldwin 2-10-0H
Baldwin 2-10-0M
The bizarre thing is that the CM is no longer reporting any errors with the first two. It does report errors on the 2-10-0s, though. In both cases, it lists a faulty dependency, blw dec 2 (96914:504872). For that item, though, the only error message reported is "Error: Texture 'engine_black.texture' is missing or could not be loaded for mesh 'hash-72\content uwv5wqny301\blw_con_b2.im'."
I get a similar error for the dependencies that're listed as faulty for most of the other engines I have by bdaneal, but again, aside from the four I listed, they all work, at least. The other engines use "blw con b2" or "blw tw b2" and "NP F1 invisible bogey", all of which report the same missing texture.
There is also a broken dependency listed for the Baldwin Light 2-8-2. Apparently kuid:96914:54516 is missing.
Further, there are a number of other items that report invalid tags, but those don't seem to present problems.
The main items I would like to fix are the four locos I named that can't seem to move in DCC mode. Can anyone advise?
Baldwin Heavy 2-8-2M
Baldwin Heavy 2-8-2H
Baldwin 2-10-0H
Baldwin 2-10-0M
The bizarre thing is that the CM is no longer reporting any errors with the first two. It does report errors on the 2-10-0s, though. In both cases, it lists a faulty dependency, blw dec 2 (96914:504872). For that item, though, the only error message reported is "Error: Texture 'engine_black.texture' is missing or could not be loaded for mesh 'hash-72\content uwv5wqny301\blw_con_b2.im'."
I get a similar error for the dependencies that're listed as faulty for most of the other engines I have by bdaneal, but again, aside from the four I listed, they all work, at least. The other engines use "blw con b2" or "blw tw b2" and "NP F1 invisible bogey", all of which report the same missing texture.
There is also a broken dependency listed for the Baldwin Light 2-8-2. Apparently kuid:96914:54516 is missing.
Further, there are a number of other items that report invalid tags, but those don't seem to present problems.
The main items I would like to fix are the four locos I named that can't seem to move in DCC mode. Can anyone advise?
toroca,
Here is what I did to make ben's locos to run in DCC mode:
I looked at enginespec blwh282engine,<kuid:96914:51488> that is used on:
Baldwin heavy 2-8-2H,<kuid:96914:4880>
Baldwin heavy 2-8-2M,<kuid:96914:4882>
These 2 locos are very slow to start in DCC but work fairly good in CAB.I
I used CM2 to right click on kuid:96914:51488 and select Edit - Edit in Explorer. Double click the config.txt file to open it in Notepad. Paged down to the Motor container and changed the accel parameter from 750 to 4500, then saved and commited. I tested the 2-8-2H and 2-8-2M and the run ok in DCC mode. Rather that mess with the enginespecs used on:
Baldwin light 2-8-2,<kuid:96914:4820>
Baldwin 2-10-0M,<kuid:96914:4872>
I edited the config.txt files of these 2 locos to change the enginespecs to also be kuid:96914:51488, saved and commited.
Now all 4 locos have the same enginespec. The all drive good in DCC and all but Baldwin 2-10-0M,<kuid:96914:4872> drive good in CAB. Why the 2-10-0M is behaving different in CAB mode is a mystery to me.
Bob
Here is what I did to make ben's locos to run in DCC mode:
I looked at enginespec blwh282engine,<kuid:96914:51488> that is used on:
Baldwin heavy 2-8-2H,<kuid:96914:4880>
Baldwin heavy 2-8-2M,<kuid:96914:4882>
These 2 locos are very slow to start in DCC but work fairly good in CAB.I
I used CM2 to right click on kuid:96914:51488 and select Edit - Edit in Explorer. Double click the config.txt file to open it in Notepad. Paged down to the Motor container and changed the accel parameter from 750 to 4500, then saved and commited. I tested the 2-8-2H and 2-8-2M and the run ok in DCC mode. Rather that mess with the enginespecs used on:
Baldwin light 2-8-2,<kuid:96914:4820>
Baldwin 2-10-0M,<kuid:96914:4872>
I edited the config.txt files of these 2 locos to change the enginespecs to also be kuid:96914:51488, saved and commited.
Now all 4 locos have the same enginespec. The all drive good in DCC and all but Baldwin 2-10-0M,<kuid:96914:4872> drive good in CAB. Why the 2-10-0M is behaving different in CAB mode is a mystery to me.
Bob
The problem I have with these locos, even after the above changes, is, when going to Driver, they ussually instantly take off at high speed, 80 to 500 mph. They slowly decelerate and, given enough high speed track, will eventually stop.
It is great fun having two 450 mph locos have a head on. At that speed they do not couple. They just go sailing off the track.
Some times they work OK. the Baldwin light 2-8-2 always works.
It is not just those locos. the SP AC12 cab forward does the same, as does the SP pacific. I have never seen this on a Diesel.
Any thoughts on why this happens and what to do about it? This is in compatability mode, the only mode I have tried.
I have no such problem in TRS2006.
It is great fun having two 450 mph locos have a head on. At that speed they do not couple. They just go sailing off the track.
Some times they work OK. the Baldwin light 2-8-2 always works.
It is not just those locos. the SP AC12 cab forward does the same, as does the SP pacific. I have never seen this on a Diesel.
Any thoughts on why this happens and what to do about it? This is in compatability mode, the only mode I have tried.
I have no such problem in TRS2006.
OK - I'm assuming the problems arise with Ben's locomotives in TRS2009. Correct?
So here's the Gen. Ben's locomotives were designed for use in TRS2004/06.
TC3 changed a whole heap of steam loco parameters, and these have been carried forward into TRS2009.
So basically to get one of these locomotives working proper in TRS2009 it needs a TC3 or TRS2009:
I've done all the hard work for three of Ben's locos:
The 2-10-0 Decapod:
(Moderators please note - the images are oversize but they have been compressed to less than 90KB)
The 2-6-0 Mogul:
And the 2-8-2 (sorry, no images).
With Ben's permission I have mounted these on Rapidshare, mouse click here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/258633904/BenNealBaldwins_TRS2009.zip
If you do download these locomotives, please respect Ben's license.
Now I don't know how these engines perform in DCC Mode 'cause I think that DCC is only for quiche-eaters and DCC just don't interest me. Perhaps some Prius driving wimp could report back on this. For us bacon-and-egg-pie eating F-250 pick-up drivers they do perform well and sound excellent in Cab Mode.
Phil
So here's the Gen. Ben's locomotives were designed for use in TRS2004/06.
TC3 changed a whole heap of steam loco parameters, and these have been carried forward into TRS2009.
So basically to get one of these locomotives working proper in TRS2009 it needs a TC3 or TRS2009:
- Engine spec;
- Cab; and
- Engine sound.
I've done all the hard work for three of Ben's locos:
The 2-10-0 Decapod:
(Moderators please note - the images are oversize but they have been compressed to less than 90KB)
The 2-6-0 Mogul:
And the 2-8-2 (sorry, no images).
With Ben's permission I have mounted these on Rapidshare, mouse click here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/258633904/BenNealBaldwins_TRS2009.zip
If you do download these locomotives, please respect Ben's license.
Now I don't know how these engines perform in DCC Mode 'cause I think that DCC is only for quiche-eaters and DCC just don't interest me. Perhaps some Prius driving wimp could report back on this. For us bacon-and-egg-pie eating F-250 pick-up drivers they do perform well and sound excellent in Cab Mode.
Phil
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Sorry, I mentioned that in another thread and thought it was here also. TS2009.
I can't say it enough, but thanks once again for your help.
I'll give these alterations a try later today. Oh, and as for the Baldwin light 2-8-2 you mentioned, that one actually works now. I think it's the only one that worked before I found this thread and fixed most of the rest.I've tried all the ones you mention, and I'm also running in compatibility mode, and haven't experienced any of these issues. Have you already altered them trying to fix them, or is this when they're freshly installed?
Correct.
Same question on all three of these: does this affect all versions of these engines? The heavy 2-8-2H and M, the 2-10-0H and M, the light 2-8-2's and all of that? Or only specific versions of them?
That was unnecessarily rude. For those of us who don't have the skill to run in CAB mode, or the interest to learn it, DCC is a nice alternative. As for me, I could care less about the levers and switches and valves and what-not. My interest lies more in creating the world itself and driving trains through it, most often viewing them from a distance to enjoy the lovely scenery around them. Cab mode provides little opportunity for this, especially in the non-cabforward steamers with their limited forward viewing perspective.
My way of playing with Trainz may not be your cup of tea, but I would never have ridiculed you for doing things differently. I guess there had to be at least one exception to the otherwise friendly welcoming-back to the community I've received since acquiring TS2009.
If the Moderators will just indulge me for a moment please.
Hmm – obviously not a F-250 driver? Perhaps a Prius owner?
Way back when Adam was a kid a book was published here in Aussie-land called “Real Men Don’t Eat Quiche”. It was a tongue-in-cheek lament of the ascendancy of the metrosexual male in society. Those of us who enjoy re-runs of the very politically in-correct “The Benny Hill Show” and “Are You Being Served” found the book extremely cleaver and humorous. The Mary Whithouse’s and Fred Nile’s didn’t.
Since then there has been a resurgence of the pick-up driving, beer swilling, meat-pie eating Aussie male, witness the success on the world stage of our Russell Crowe and other Australian “real men” actors, though I believe that Russ’s most famous role had him wearing a skirt and sandals. He has also achieved some fame for using a telephone a an offensive weapon.
I’m sure if the Prius and Trainz had been in existence when the “Real Men … ” was written the author would have had some comments to make about both. Possibly a bit like mine.
I’m of the opinion that the choice of DCC or Cab Mode depends on how a user arrives to Trainz – either from 3.5mm to the foot or from 12 inches to the foot. That is – a replacement for a toy train set or the unrealised ambition to be train driver.
However, you will find that most of us Cab Mode enthusiast don’t actually drive in the cab. Like you we like to enjoy watching the scenery and so we use the external view with keyboard commands.
“ … I would never have ridiculed you for doing things differently.” Hey - why not? It goes on a lot in these Forums. Though generally it’s seen as good natured banter. Other people do it so I don’t expect you to be an exception.
Coming back to Ben’s steamers, the three in my Rapidshare folder do work in DCC mode, otherwise I wouldn’t have released them. The modifications only apply to those three particular locomotives, but if you look at the aliases that I’ve used for the cab, enginespec and sound and also go into the config.txt file you will probably work out how to modify the remainder.
Be warned, though, that getting the four chuffs per revolution sound does involve a basic understanding of animation distances, direct-drive and invisible bogeys. If you have cracked the da Vinci Code it should be easy.
If you are looking for a TRS2009 session that uses one of Ben’s locomotives, see here:
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=43886&highlight=harbor
There is a package of material that goes with the route, mouse click here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/231615394/HarborMaster1_Documentation.zip
The package includes maps, how to configure interactive industries and a tutorial about driving in Cab Mode.
Two other steam locomotives that I've modified for use in TRS2009 might interest you. They can be downloaded here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/250971470/Loco_UP_steam_060_TRS2009.cdp
http://rapidshare.com/files/274960534/PKP_Ty2_256_TRS2009.zip
Phil
Hmm – obviously not a F-250 driver? Perhaps a Prius owner?
Way back when Adam was a kid a book was published here in Aussie-land called “Real Men Don’t Eat Quiche”. It was a tongue-in-cheek lament of the ascendancy of the metrosexual male in society. Those of us who enjoy re-runs of the very politically in-correct “The Benny Hill Show” and “Are You Being Served” found the book extremely cleaver and humorous. The Mary Whithouse’s and Fred Nile’s didn’t.
Since then there has been a resurgence of the pick-up driving, beer swilling, meat-pie eating Aussie male, witness the success on the world stage of our Russell Crowe and other Australian “real men” actors, though I believe that Russ’s most famous role had him wearing a skirt and sandals. He has also achieved some fame for using a telephone a an offensive weapon.
I’m sure if the Prius and Trainz had been in existence when the “Real Men … ” was written the author would have had some comments to make about both. Possibly a bit like mine.
I’m of the opinion that the choice of DCC or Cab Mode depends on how a user arrives to Trainz – either from 3.5mm to the foot or from 12 inches to the foot. That is – a replacement for a toy train set or the unrealised ambition to be train driver.
However, you will find that most of us Cab Mode enthusiast don’t actually drive in the cab. Like you we like to enjoy watching the scenery and so we use the external view with keyboard commands.
“ … I would never have ridiculed you for doing things differently.” Hey - why not? It goes on a lot in these Forums. Though generally it’s seen as good natured banter. Other people do it so I don’t expect you to be an exception.
Coming back to Ben’s steamers, the three in my Rapidshare folder do work in DCC mode, otherwise I wouldn’t have released them. The modifications only apply to those three particular locomotives, but if you look at the aliases that I’ve used for the cab, enginespec and sound and also go into the config.txt file you will probably work out how to modify the remainder.
Be warned, though, that getting the four chuffs per revolution sound does involve a basic understanding of animation distances, direct-drive and invisible bogeys. If you have cracked the da Vinci Code it should be easy.
If you are looking for a TRS2009 session that uses one of Ben’s locomotives, see here:
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=43886&highlight=harbor
There is a package of material that goes with the route, mouse click here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/231615394/HarborMaster1_Documentation.zip
The package includes maps, how to configure interactive industries and a tutorial about driving in Cab Mode.
Two other steam locomotives that I've modified for use in TRS2009 might interest you. They can be downloaded here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/250971470/Loco_UP_steam_060_TRS2009.cdp
http://rapidshare.com/files/274960534/PKP_Ty2_256_TRS2009.zip
Phil
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Thanks philskene.
I downloaded your 3 fixed locos and they work well.
I then used their engine spec in the other Balwins I had touble with and now they work well.
Then I put that engine spec in the SP AC12 cab forward and that now works well also. I may tweak the acceleration a bit.
I downloaded your 3 fixed locos and they work well.
I then used their engine spec in the other Balwins I had touble with and now they work well.
Then I put that engine spec in the SP AC12 cab forward and that now works well also. I may tweak the acceleration a bit.
Here is link to the Wiki enginespec for steam.
http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/index.php5/Steam_container
Bob
http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/index.php5/Steam_container
Bob
UnionPacificRules
NYC, PRR, UP, SP, BNSF...
Can you help me on how to fix up the generics?
The latest versions of Ben's 09/10 compatible steamers are here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/336061730/Loco_US_BenNealBaldwins_v3.zip
The UP switcher is here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/336061731/Loco_US_UP_060_SteamLoco_v3.cdp
And a NG shay:
http://rapidshare.com/files/336923277/Loco_NG_West_Side_Shay_12.cdp
You may have to wait a few moments for a free RapidShare download slot.
http://rapidshare.com/files/336061730/Loco_US_BenNealBaldwins_v3.zip
The UP switcher is here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/336061731/Loco_US_UP_060_SteamLoco_v3.cdp
And a NG shay:
http://rapidshare.com/files/336923277/Loco_NG_West_Side_Shay_12.cdp
You may have to wait a few moments for a free RapidShare download slot.
donaldengine9
New member
Hello, I've just downloaded practically all of the files over at SubPar, and I'm still missing these kuids:
<kuid:96914:504863>
<kuid:96914:504833>
<kuid:96914:504834>
<kuid:96914:504860>
I've checked all the files currently up for download, but none of the kuid numbers match these. Can someone please help?
EDIT: I've downloaded the three files in a previous post, so thank you for that. =D
<kuid:96914:504863>
<kuid:96914:504833>
<kuid:96914:504834>
<kuid:96914:504860>
I've checked all the files currently up for download, but none of the kuid numbers match these. Can someone please help?
EDIT: I've downloaded the three files in a previous post, so thank you for that. =D
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misterchugg
Active member
hi
dl now
thanks for making these available
cheers
ron
dl now
thanks for making these available
cheers
ron
Go back to the Subpar site and find the one listed as Common Files. The download will be blw_common.cdp. All your missing kuids are in there.
Bob