Flickenwilli
Headbanger
User JHS created a very nice looking cigarette automat, a phone box and a stamp-machine. All this items would perfectly suit to your wonderful layout, as well.
Cheers
Müller
Cheers
Müller
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Hamburg V6E Tram Layout
- Thread starter MarkHodgkinson
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MarkHodgkinson
Tram Route Builder
Thanks for the information on the German letterboxes.
No, the Hamburg V6E trams are payware, but worth every penny! (see www.v6e.de)
No, the Hamburg V6E trams are payware, but worth every penny! (see www.v6e.de)
MarkHodgkinson
Tram Route Builder
As I continue work on my Hamburg V6E tram route, I have created 3 re-skins of Killerkrabbe's Mercedes L319 van as follows for use on my layout:-
MB L319 Deutsche Post A
DLS Link: http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=133657
MB L319 Deutsche Post B
DLS Link: http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=133658
MB L319 Deutsche Post C
DLS Link: http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=133659
MB L319 Deutsche Post A
DLS Link: http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=133657
MB L319 Deutsche Post B
DLS Link: http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=133658
MB L319 Deutsche Post C
DLS Link: http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=133659
MarkHodgkinson
Tram Route Builder
Further to my Deutsche Post Mercedes L319 re-skins, I seem to have gone off in a tangent with the L319 re-skinning and have now created a Hamburg maintenence van for use on my layout as follows:
WileeCoyote
Eatibus Almost Anythingus
I noticed that you're modelling your layout so as to make it look like a bit of West Germany before the Berlin wall was pushed over. I will note that at that time Deutsche Post AG did not exist, instead there was the Bundespost.
Just in case you were wondering
WileeCoyote
P.S. Nice route
Just in case you were wondering
WileeCoyote
P.S. Nice route
MarkHodgkinson
Tram Route Builder
As stated before, I hope to have the route available on the DLS by Christmas. Sorry no beta version.
Thank you for the information. I will do another re-skin of the Mercedes L319 van in Bundespost colours. I'm I correct in saying that the horn logo was slightly different from that used today by Deutsche Post?
MarkHodgkinson
Tram Route Builder
It turns out that I don't need to do a Bundespost L319, as one already exisits by Killerkrabbe on the DLS:
http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=76756
The Hamburg Maintenence L319 Van (Sicherheits - und wartungsdienst) which I have re-skinned for my route is now on the DLS:
http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=133868
Enjoy!
http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=76756
The Hamburg Maintenence L319 Van (Sicherheits - und wartungsdienst) which I have re-skinned for my route is now on the DLS:
http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=133868
Enjoy!
MarkHodgkinson
Tram Route Builder
I'm about half way through doing the overhead wires on my tram route using the method used by Rolf in his original V6E demo route. For those of you who haven't seen this route, the wire and support wires are all seperate splines not associated with the track. I have continued with this method for my route extension, but it is proving very tricky because of the large number of splines I'm having to put on the top of each other.
Today I have noticed that Rolf has uploaded to the DLS some new tram tracks (some which include the wire):
http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_packcontents.php?AssetPackID=16400
Now my question is, what method is best? On the one hand, with seperate overhead wire splines, the wires look more realistic as they are in straight lines but it takes an age to do, especially fixing up the supporting catenary wires. On the other hand, combined wire and track is less time consuming, but doesn't look as realsitic on curves because the wire forms a perfect curve.
Also, does combined track and wire use more system resources than seperate track and wire?
I thought I would gauge your thoughts and ask for your feedback before I do anything drastic with my route like relaying all the track with Rolf's new track.
Today I have noticed that Rolf has uploaded to the DLS some new tram tracks (some which include the wire):
http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_packcontents.php?AssetPackID=16400
Now my question is, what method is best? On the one hand, with seperate overhead wire splines, the wires look more realistic as they are in straight lines but it takes an age to do, especially fixing up the supporting catenary wires. On the other hand, combined wire and track is less time consuming, but doesn't look as realsitic on curves because the wire forms a perfect curve.
Also, does combined track and wire use more system resources than seperate track and wire?
I thought I would gauge your thoughts and ask for your feedback before I do anything drastic with my route like relaying all the track with Rolf's new track.
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Mark.
I would go for the track with overhead wire attached every time.despite your aversion to the curves not looking realistic (too perfect) nothing beats the sight of the trolly pole following the O/Head ALL the time.
Yes I know just how much time will be consumed changing the track (been there done that), but you have allready found out the trouble involved placing OH seperately.
Norm.
I would go for the track with overhead wire attached every time.despite your aversion to the curves not looking realistic (too perfect) nothing beats the sight of the trolly pole following the O/Head ALL the time.
Yes I know just how much time will be consumed changing the track (been there done that), but you have allready found out the trouble involved placing OH seperately.
Norm.
I've done both - built in overhead wire is certainly easiest, but it's probably only worthwhile with a proper tracking overhead pole (I don't think that Rolf's do this). The issue with the built-in wire is that it can be difficult to make it look convincingly supported on corners. These are a few examples using built-in wire from my Westhaven Route (WIP):
They use Motorman1066's pull-offs and line hangers for 6.4m overhead, which are trackside objects (also with a scenery version). He has given me permission to upload a version lowered to suit European trams (which should match the V6Es), so I can send you a beta if you're interested.
I've also been playing with another method of doing overhead, using waygauges for both track and wire, and maximum use of trackside objects for supports. Corners are still a bit of a labour, but trackside modern style pull-offs help with this. The following thumbs illlustrate what can be done (note that the line hangers are by Motorman1066, and the poles by Andi06, used as attachments to save on manual placing):
If you're interested, I could send a beta of this as well...
Hope it all goes well - I'm looking forward to the route.
Paul
They use Motorman1066's pull-offs and line hangers for 6.4m overhead, which are trackside objects (also with a scenery version). He has given me permission to upload a version lowered to suit European trams (which should match the V6Es), so I can send you a beta if you're interested.
I've also been playing with another method of doing overhead, using waygauges for both track and wire, and maximum use of trackside objects for supports. Corners are still a bit of a labour, but trackside modern style pull-offs help with this. The following thumbs illlustrate what can be done (note that the line hangers are by Motorman1066, and the poles by Andi06, used as attachments to save on manual placing):
If you're interested, I could send a beta of this as well...
Hope it all goes well - I'm looking forward to the route.
Paul
valereclaude
New member
Hi paulzmay !
I'm serching a route tram in DLS, and your layout is what I want. So, if you want, can send to me a beta-version Please ??? At my email adress : gnoans /a/ gmail.com (/a/ = @).
Bye,
Claude.
I'm serching a route tram in DLS, and your layout is what I want. So, if you want, can send to me a beta-version Please ??? At my email adress : gnoans /a/ gmail.com (/a/ = @).
Bye,
Claude.
valereclaude
New member
Hi markhodgkinson
In screenshot, you show the main tram terminus Hauptbahnhof. But I want to kwnow, where did you get the Hauptbahnhof ??? Please...
In screenshot, you show the main tram terminus Hauptbahnhof. But I want to kwnow, where did you get the Hauptbahnhof ??? Please...
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The route in the first 5 pictures is on the DLS in an earlier form as 'Westhaven Trams 1-1'. Neither the update, nor the other route are ready to Beta yet. I will be looking for someone to beta test the overhead in the second set of pictures soon.
Paul
MarkHodgkinson
Tram Route Builder
I don't know what happended last night, but I appear to have gone back in time to 1970 when the V6E's were still operating (see the first page of this thread)
Anyhow, to avoid confusion, here's my post again, hopefully appearing in date order this time:
Paul, thanks for the feedback. I would certainly be interested in a beta of the tram wire items you mention please for me to experiment with.
In addition to the items you have already mentioned, I'm also looking at using the trackside object tram poles on http://tramtrainz.net/trat.htm in conjunction with Rolf's combined track and wire.
For the Hauptbahnhof in my fictional tram route I have used "Budapest Terminal East". You can download it here: http://trainz.luvr.net/projects-view.php?pid=735&tab=f
Anyhow, to avoid confusion, here's my post again, hopefully appearing in date order this time:
Paul, thanks for the feedback. I would certainly be interested in a beta of the tram wire items you mention please for me to experiment with.
In addition to the items you have already mentioned, I'm also looking at using the trackside object tram poles on http://tramtrainz.net/trat.htm in conjunction with Rolf's combined track and wire.
For the Hauptbahnhof in my fictional tram route I have used "Budapest Terminal East". You can download it here: http://trainz.luvr.net/projects-view.php?pid=735&tab=f
Looks like its comming along
Trying to download any non DLS content as you are listing it here so hopefully I won't have any content problems when the layot is ready.
Was looking back through the posts, don't remember the Orange V6E in post 36 in the collection?, also looks like there could be a couple of other cars with new adds, now you fixed the postal van are you going to fix the add on thr Tram to match?
Tom
Trying to download any non DLS content as you are listing it here so hopefully I won't have any content problems when the layot is ready.
Was looking back through the posts, don't remember the Orange V6E in post 36 in the collection?, also looks like there could be a couple of other cars with new adds, now you fixed the postal van are you going to fix the add on thr Tram to match?
Tom
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