jacksonbarno
Alco Spoken Here
Strong as an ox but light on her feet! Looks awesome Ben, I'm surprised at how good you got that mars light to look, when you first had it on there it looked way different. :Y:
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Sachsenbahner
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Well, not ALL wood, but a surprisingly large amount of the bogie is manufactured from good old solid oak. This very weekend a substantial part of the still operational CL and CLEs were out for a spin, complete with wooden bogies and a max speed of 90 km/h. Why DSB used the wooden bogies was the result of short funds and a large stockpile of surplus bogies. The CL and CLE used these bogies from the start until their final years in the late 1970ies, mainly on branchlines at the end, but initially they were intended for the very busy Copenhagen commuter lines. It was only the converted CLS cab control cars which got new bogies and then again "new" has to be taken with a grain of salt as the new bogies were old Prussian type riveted plate steel bogies.
lol, all I did was remove the visor! Also, it's hard to see from that angle, I changed the headlight to a dual sealed-beam type. Just because!
-Ben
Well, not ALL wood, but a surprisingly large amount of the bogie is manufactured from good old solid oak. This very weekend a substantial part of the still operational CL and CLEs were out for a spin, complete with wooden bogies and a max speed of 90 km/h. Why DSB used the wooden bogies was the result of short funds and a large stockpile of surplus bogies. The CL and CLE used these bogies from the start until their final years in the late 1970ies, mainly on branchlines at the end, but initially they were intended for the very busy Copenhagen commuter lines. It was only the converted CLS cab control cars which got new bogies and then again "new" has to be taken with a grain of salt as the new bogies were old Prussian type riveted plate steel bogies.
Looks like an 1890s bogey...though knowing modern designs and the solidity of oak, I'm not surprised they lasted until the '70s...
Not far off the mark. This particular type was introduced in 1903. Another interesting historical note: when the British sacked the Danish Navy in 1807, they also took all the stock of oak timber with them. This led to an ambitous programme of speed building a new navy including a massive tree planting campaign. However, an oak needs at least 100 years to grow strong and big enough to be of use in shipbuilding and at that time it was all steel and steam. Hence the DSB had an almost unending supply of lumber for their early carriages.
Found a live one
Found a live one
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nathanmallard
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Good work there, that railcar looks good. Didn't I give you the drawings for it?
Actually, I didn't plan to build No. 22 from the get-go, but she's a bog-standard 70-footer and so perfect as a first model. Really, some of the stuff like the four-wheel-drive car from the Southern Utah are more interesting, but a generic car is more useful.
A quick model, too - all that's left are windows, window latches and the (rather more daunting) gas-electric motor.
A quick model, too - all that's left are windows, window latches and the (rather more daunting) gas-electric motor.
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bentrain14
does not make bogies
Its happening 
ehamerstone
Jr.hogger1 & Agrotred40
Its happening
Ooh they look awesome already. Are they going to be NJT? MTA? Amtrak?
A McKeen Railcar, I presume Daniel? It is very nice indeed!
The more usual ones were narrow gauge.....used by the Queensland Railways
In 1911, Q.R ordered a total of five McKeen cars which were delivered in May, 1913. These were to the QR gauge of 3 ft 6 in (1,067 mm), and were the only narrow gauge McKeen cars. They were issued running numbers 1 through 5.
Like the Victorian Railways cars, the cars were fitted with the more rounded nose and with buffers; however, the typical McKeen dropped center door was retained to permit easy passenger access without a raised platform. The cars, unlike most, had the same size of wheels on both axles of the lead truck and a chain drive linking them, making all 4 wheels driven.
The cars proved no more reliable in Queensland than elsewhere; by 1920 car No.1 was out of service and cars No. 2 and 5 were modified as Tourist and Day Inspection cars, with luxury accommodations for 32 passengers. They were still expensive to run, at an estimated double the running costs of a steam-hauled train; the Great Depression finished them off, and the five cars were withdrawn between 1929 and 1931 and scrapped without much fanfare; behind the fence at Ipswich Workshops.
Their failure allowed to the railways to design their own Railmotor fleet using AEC Omnibus chassis; thus born the 'red railmotors'.
Regards,
M.Gitsham
The more usual ones were narrow gauge.....used by the Queensland Railways
In 1911, Q.R ordered a total of five McKeen cars which were delivered in May, 1913. These were to the QR gauge of 3 ft 6 in (1,067 mm), and were the only narrow gauge McKeen cars. They were issued running numbers 1 through 5.
Like the Victorian Railways cars, the cars were fitted with the more rounded nose and with buffers; however, the typical McKeen dropped center door was retained to permit easy passenger access without a raised platform. The cars, unlike most, had the same size of wheels on both axles of the lead truck and a chain drive linking them, making all 4 wheels driven.
The cars proved no more reliable in Queensland than elsewhere; by 1920 car No.1 was out of service and cars No. 2 and 5 were modified as Tourist and Day Inspection cars, with luxury accommodations for 32 passengers. They were still expensive to run, at an estimated double the running costs of a steam-hauled train; the Great Depression finished them off, and the five cars were withdrawn between 1929 and 1931 and scrapped without much fanfare; behind the fence at Ipswich Workshops.
Their failure allowed to the railways to design their own Railmotor fleet using AEC Omnibus chassis; thus born the 'red railmotors'.
Regards,
M.Gitsham
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Of course I intend to do as many unique McKeen cars as I can once the generic models are completed - things like the VR and QR railcars, as the only NG and SG cars, are a must. So are some of the other fascinating projects, such as Southern Utah #100:
Despite a 55-foot length, it's the most powerful McKeen ever built, developing 300hp to its four drivers. Incidentally, the only other four-wheel-drive McKeens were the QR cars. In the SURR's case, #100 needed to be able to ascend hills with a maximum grade of 4.95%, hence the power. The radiators are mounted on top instead of below, presumably because the heavy 3-axle truck leaves little space for the standard box radiators. Luckily, it is one of the survivors, with the car body being used on the SURR right-of-way until 1990. Currently, the body is being restored in Minden, NV, with hopes to return the entire car to working order.
Despite a 55-foot length, it's the most powerful McKeen ever built, developing 300hp to its four drivers. Incidentally, the only other four-wheel-drive McKeens were the QR cars. In the SURR's case, #100 needed to be able to ascend hills with a maximum grade of 4.95%, hence the power. The radiators are mounted on top instead of below, presumably because the heavy 3-axle truck leaves little space for the standard box radiators. Luckily, it is one of the survivors, with the car body being used on the SURR right-of-way until 1990. Currently, the body is being restored in Minden, NV, with hopes to return the entire car to working order.
Quite so Daniel; the McKeen Cars were the first production 'railmotor' to be used on all three gauges; 5ft 3in (Broad Gauge), 3ft 6in (Narrow Gauge) and 4ft 8 1/2 inch (Standard Gauge) They were quite strange and futurist at the time, but their short lived lives owning to the over confidence of the builders with the lack of superior technology outside Great Britain, owed to the failures. Neverless, three survived to the present; one in Alaska, on used on the V&T and Southern n' Utah, with many of the trailer cars floating around unrecorded.
Now; a proud piece of British Engineering built by English Electric in 1962 to 1964, at their Rocklea plant in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. The Q.R 1600 class.
Still some detail to add, and to texture. If anyone is good making map textures, please do contact myself.
Regards,
M.Gitsham
Now; a proud piece of British Engineering built by English Electric in 1962 to 1964, at their Rocklea plant in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. The Q.R 1600 class.
Still some detail to add, and to texture. If anyone is good making map textures, please do contact myself.
Regards,
M.Gitsham
I'm not much for BR blue, but that model is looking very good.