Australian screenshots

[patchy]

Hello Everyone;Just another creation that will be making it to the DLS, a set of Queensland Railways 18 feet Level Crossing Gates. Fully animated with typical red posts.These were standard for single lines on the entire QR network weither on Branchlines, Country Districts or Suburban Brisbane. Based off original drawings issued for Mt Cuthbert - Cloncurry Branchline dated 1915 from my private collection.

An example of a 18 feet crossing gate - Photographed taken at Birru circa mid to late 1960s on the now closed Rosewood to Marburg branch with C17 running tender first. (C) Leon Mathews

Kindest RegardsMichael GitshamQHR Commissioner Of Railways

WOW Michael, where is all these creations on the DLS
I Can't find any of it,Is anything going to be uploaded in the near future

Cheers,
Patchy

 

[trainz89]

Patchy, I am finalising the config. Tommorrow I am going to test it it works in trainz, fingers crossed.

I shall put you down on the beta list, and copies of my item shall be sent to you immediatly. If you add me on skype, I can give you some hot off the press items, I just made some typical QR Wooden signs and some items that I remember while growing up in Townsville. I got a few PB's that I will send you, that I originally made for Kingaroy and Cairns, but you where not interested at the time in having them.

Just pm your email mate, and I shall put you on the payroll it also includes some XXXX borrowed from the Brooloo Gangers Fridge

WOW Michael, where is all these creations on the DSLCan't find any of itAre you going to finish anythingCheers,Patchy

 

[Petan]

Hello Everyone;

Just another creation that will be making it to the DLS, a set of Queensland Railways 18 feet Level Crossing Gates. Fully animated with typical red posts.

These were standard for single lines on the entire QR network weither on Branchlines, Country Districts or Suburban Brisbane. Based off original drawings issued for Mt Cuthbert - Cloncurry Branchline dated 1915 from my private collection.

An example of a 18 feet crossing gate - Photographed taken at Birru circa mid to late 1960s on the now closed Rosewood to Marburg branch with C17 running tender first. (C) Leon Mathews

Kindest Regards
Michael Gitsham

Glad to see you added the 2ft 6in diameter red wrought iron target as they are missing from that picture. Picture also P.63 of Greg Cash's Marburg Book although he has the picture by LEN not Leon Matthews and at Talegalla on the last train from Birru 1969. Either he or you have it reversed although I can read the loco # in Greg's book. http://www.railshop.com.au/prod101.htm

There was also a mild steel black rod from bottom left to top right of gate in the picture. Just goes to show not all were the same so a bit of modellers free lance is OK. Your copy is in colour and book is black and white so your one has better detail.

Thanks for doing and uploading that gate as it will be of use.

 

[trainz89]

Petan,

I found that photo off Railpage, so the original author who created it is Leon Mathews, but I am unaware who may have take the photo at the time, I am crediting the original uploader on railpage. I do have Greg Cash's Book, and its a wounderful read from time and again.

I got colour photos of the Brisbane Road - Gympie, Mt Morgan, various Mary Valley Railway Gates from the early 1980s and the Drayton Level Crossing Gates from 1971 - Which I have the original plans for and I am very lucky to have in my collection.

Don't be caught out, that gate could be a 15 feet gate which is completely different in rodding and design.

Overall, I am looking forward to be adding this to my QR themed route and sharing with the trainzing community.

Regards
Michael Gitsham

Glad to see you added the 2ft 6in diameter red wrought iron target as they are missing from that picture. Picture also P.63 of Greg Cash's Marburg Book although he has the picture by LEN not Leon Matthews and at Talegalla on the last train from Birru 1969. Either he or you have it reversed although I can read the loco # in Greg's book. http://www.railshop.com.au/prod101.htm

There was also a mild steel black rod from bottom left to top right of gate in the picture. Just goes to show not all were the same so a bit of modellers free lance is OK. Your copy is in colour and book is black and white so your one has better detail.

Thanks for doing and uploading that gate as it will be of use.

 

[Forest_Runner]

ARHS Tour... north of the border... (one of the great Aussie routes for this sim).

 

[Petan]

Petan, I found that photo off Railpage, so the original author who created it is Leon Mathews, but I am unaware who may have take the photo at the time, I am crediting the original uploader on railpage. I do have Greg Cash's Book,

Don't be caught out, that gate could be a 15 feet gate which is completely different in rodding and design.

Michael Gitsham

Hi Michael, it seems we may have found a minor typo for the name of the photographer as stated in Greg Cash's book P.63 where Greg has "Len Matthews" yet in the credits on P. 2 of the same book Greg refers to a Leonard Matthews. That book was published by ARHS QLD who have mis-spelt my name when I have written "Sunshine Express" articles so typos are possible. You can debate the location with Greg as well if desired, although it does not change the model data which is our main concern.

The gate measurements and data I quoted are for the eighteen [18] foot gate, the same size as your work. Plans for this and many other QLD structures are from the QLD branch of the Australian Model Railway Association (AMRA) at Zillmere, Brisbane http://www.amra.asn.au/qld.htm

Michael, the author of the eighteen (18) foot gate plans I have, as sold by AMRA, is known to you. His name is John Armstrong and last year you mentioned you had worked with him on a model at the May AMRA Brisbane train show. My copy was dated February 1985 so it is on foolscap folio sized paper. I understand John has redone these on the more modern A4 sized paper.

 

[TheWaluigiKing]

Got Peter's 40 class working in 2012 turns out the Body textures have to be copied into the shadow folder.

 

[trainz89]

Brooloo Road Level Crossing - 18ft Gates

Hello Everyone,

Just exported the 18ft gates into trainz, and currently testing them on my home Brooloo map with English Electric QR 1270. I also added a classic gatekeepers cottage and bunya pine.

I shall release the model as a beta to certain users until I get get the bugs refined then I shall release to the Download Station. As when exported the original posts go missing when in trainz and the level of the gates need to be fixed. Overall without complaint she is a perfect model, so enjoy the screenshots;

Kindest Regards
Michael Gitsham
QHR Commissioner Of Railways

 

[NSWGR_46Class]

Got Peter's 40 class working in 2012 turns out the Body textures have to be copied into the shadow folder.

Quick shadows from PEV and a quick edit of the config would have been better plus a saving on your HDD space

 

[S301]

Newly restored DD 588 leads a heritage tour across the Cardinia Creek trestle, in it's brand new ZR green and blue livery.



Further on, DD 588 rolls off the bridges just outside Koo Wee Rup with it's special.


Zec

 

[S301]

Newly restored DD 588 leads a heritage tour across the Cardinia Creek trestle, in it's brand new ZR green and blue livery.



Further on, DD 588 rolls off the bridges just outside Koo Wee Rup with it's special.


Zec

 

[TheWaluigiKing]

After leaving Cowra 4004 and 4013 arrive on the outskirts of Patrick town with a short coal train

Yes i did fix the other two 40's

 

[NSWGR_46Class]

After leaving Cowra 4004 and 4013 arrive on the outskirts of Patrick town with a short coal train

Yes i did fix the other two 40's

Almost true During the second world war more coal travelled from the blue mts via Cowra to Melbourne than any other route or time. Just out of intrest checked the records and a 40 class never worked on the Lines to the Lachlan

 

[TheWaluigiKing]

Is it because they were too heavy or is that they couldn't keep up with the workload?

 

[NSWGR_46Class]

Is it because they were too heavy or is that they couldn't keep up with the workload?

TO heavy - to far away IIRC they main operation areas was the north and south mains and the Cowra crews were not trained to operate them.

Plus the slipping issues of the A1A bogies would have caused trouble on the heavy grades of the line

 

[TheWaluigiKing]

1999 3801 on post Restoration load trials.

Note:this is the old model

 

[Petan]

TO heavy - to far away IIRC they main operation areas was the north and south mains and the Cowra crews were not trained to operate them.
Plus the slipping issues of the A1A bogies would have caused trouble on the heavy grades of the line

The following data may help the discussion on the load limits on the Cowra lines. The 5 May 1968 Southern Division NSWGR Working Timetable P.217, lists the 1960s built Goodwin Alco 45 class as 600 tons for the Blayney -Harden- Blayney sections. The Cowra branch lines, as distinct from the Blayney -Harden- Blayney sections, were however listed as 48 or 49 class diesels. Lachlan Valley Railway's [LVR] 4204 was used in the Cowra area on various trains after purchase by LVR.The local experts can list which Cowra regional lines 4204 rode in LVR wheat haulage jobs.

40 class 111.5 tons total, 18.5 tons axle load; 45 class 109.5 tons total, 18.25 tons axle load; 42 class 120 tons total, 20 tons axle load. Weights from "An Australian diesel locomotive pocketbook"​ by Peter J. Clark, Australian Railway Historical Society, New South Wales Division, [1974].

But, as NSWGR_46Class noted above, the 40 class were better used on the main trunk mainlines. In the era following the introduction of newer diesels, the Canadian Alco 40 class were used on lighter passenger trains and fast freighters such as perishable traffic eg meat and fruit, as well as pick up goods, according to Ron Preston's "Green Diesels The 40 and 41 Classes" P.104. [Eveleigh Press publication]

 

[Petan]

But, as NSWGR_46Class noted above, the 40 class were better used on the main trunk mainlines. In the era following the introduction of newer diesels, the Canadian Alco 40 class were used on lighter passenger trains and fast freighters such as perishable traffic eg meat and fruit, as well as pick up goods, according to Ron Preston's "Green Diesels The 40 and 41 Classes" P.104. [Eveleigh Press publication]

Another problem with 40 class at Cowra was that the west was somewhat separate from the main NSW system due to the 46 class over the electrified Blue Mountains, apart from occasional loco transfers to workshops and the cross country lines.

So normally the only way a 40 class could accidentally get on the Harden- Blayney section was from the south. If so, it would probably have been quickly sent back to the south to do something more realistic such as the Goulburn passengers so it can get back to Sydney and onto a Newcastle Flyer or North Coast Daylight. As the northern wires went to Gosford, the commuter trains north from there through the Hunter also used 40 class.

Counting up all these other 40 class usual rosters would not leave spare 40 class for areas such as Cowra. As NSWGR_46Class said, too far away!

 

[VinnyBarb]

I took my current work in progress, the "ugly duckling" of the SCT logistic group, the new CSR Class for a spin country side, towing an inter modal consist with CSR 005 and 002 leading and as insurance for breakdowns, SCT11 as third locomotive:



Just after leaving the yard and getting under steam:



and getting faster:



winding my way up:



further and further through the country side:



and twisting and turning my way:



to finally getting closer to my destination:



showing off and testing the new CSR Class, which only arrived in Australia from China as the first purpose build locomotive there in middle of February this year. Lucky for me, young Michael Oakley, his user name here is X46, was on hand in Altona to shoot some badly needed pictures of the CSR Class for me, without his help I would not have reached this current state of creating as I never have seen this locomotive in real life myself. Thank you buddy.

I still need to finish the first LOD on the CSR Class and its bogies too. As one can see, I did not paint the CSR Class in pristine, "just leaving the paintshop" colours, I slightly dusted the bogies and the exterior for a slightly used look and I think, this is a lot better than I had created my locomotives in the past.

Cheers

VinnyBarb

 

[NSWGR_46Class]

Another problem with 40 class at Cowra was that the west was somewhat separate from the main NSW system due to the 46 class over the electrified Blue Mountains, apart from occasional loco transfers to workshops and the cross country lines.

So normally the only way a 40 class could accidentally get on the Harden- Blayney section was from the south. If so, it would probably have been quickly sent back to the south to do something more realistic such as the Goulburn passengers so it can get back to Sydney and onto a Newcastle Flyer or North Coast Daylight. As the northern wires went to Gosford, the commuter trains north from there through the Hunter also used 40 class.

Counting up all these other 40 class usual rosters would not leave spare 40 class for areas such as Cowra. As NSWGR_46Class said, too far away!

That and Cowra crews were never trained on the 40 class - plus also of note is that Cowra Crews were never trained on the 45 or the 44 class either, if these locos worked over the branch they were normally operated by a Bathurst crew or less often Cotta crew or under instruction of the Bathurst DLI. (Cowra in the later years was run as sub loco depot off Bathurst) The most common locos were 47, 48 and 49. the larger main line locos were not that common as they could not work out of Cowra on the branch lines - Cowra-Canowindra or Koorwatha - Grenfell line -.

Most locos every mued on the Cowra line a 7 unit lash up G-G-T-T-T-47-47 - this was abit of a stuff up as it ended up in the dirt was then rescued by a EL Tripple header the 'only time EL's worked over the line. Quad 48's were common toward the end of the SRA era - double headers during the Tuscan era.

I have access at home to a list of every loco that operated over the Lachlan Lines during the State Govenment days - pre open access.

4204 - "Grandma" had mods made to her so she could lead LVR wheat trains with her number 2 end leading = a full train control stand was fitted - not like other 42's that had a limited function control stand that just allowed them to be moved number 2 end leading around yards and depots- plus a sliding window in the number 2 end = LVR were operating wheat services on the Lachlan lines under contract to the SRA pre the open access era- this was not mentioned in Rail Digest mag in there recent series on private wheat trains in NSW