Asset(s) Removed From DLS But Still Shown In Listings

[Vern]

Various LU (London Underground) assets by Author Snakelight64 (563140) are still listed on the DLS but when you try to download the above message about removed from DLS appears.

Forgive me if I'm being thick here, but if the asset is no longer on the DLS and has presumably had to be removed manually by a N3V employee, then why the hell hasn't the index/listing been edited to prevent the items appearing?

Not only that it just adds to the clogged up nightmare the DLS is when trying to find assets to populate our routes/layouts.

Could someone from N3V please step up and ensure assets no longer on the DLS (whether due to copyright breach, author request or whatever) no longer appear. Thank you.

 

[H222]

I must ask Vern.

Isn't it better to know that it was, but is no longer on the DLS (and why), rather than if an asset has been removed from the DLS and is totally "banished" from existence - just becoming another unknown missing dependency that you're now going to try and search all over the internet for?

I think I'd rather know why (and more importantly to not bother looking) it's missing, than just have yet another missing dependency to find.

 

[stagecoach]

Which asset? If at some point you had a DLC asset installed on your route with a newer version and then saved it, it would show as not available on the DLS if you tried to redownload it.

 

[Vern]

I must ask Vern.

Isn't it better to know that it was, but is no longer on the DLS (and why), rather than if an asset has been removed from the DLS and is totally "banished" from existence - just becoming another unknown missing dependency that you're now going to try and search all over the internet for?

I think I'd rather know why (and more importantly to not bother looking) it's missing, than just have yet another missing dependency to find.

No I don't agree. At least there should be some indication the asset has been removed before you select it and only get the error in the download pop up box.

 

[Vern]

Which asset? If at some point you had a DLC asset installed on your route with a newer version and then saved it, it would show as not available on the DLS if you tried to redownload it.

Too many to list but numerous of the LU track section and conductor rail assets. These are nothing to do with any official DLC but are just third party freeware items.

 

[pware]

but if the asset is no longer on the DLS and has presumably had to be removed manually by a N3V employee, then why the hell hasn't the index/listing been edited to prevent the items appearing?

I randomly selected one of the assets, <kuid2:563140:1573:1> LU 3rd Power Ramp, and installed it from the DLS. It has 37 dependencies. During the install the message "Removed from DLS" appeared several times in the download window but when the install was finished the asset and all 37 dependencies were installed without errors and missing dependencies.

The messages were:-

- <kuid:563140:1508> : Unable to search asset <kuid:563140:1508>. Asset removed from the Download Station..
- <kuid:563140:1506> : Unable to search asset <kuid:563140:1506>. Asset removed from the Download Station..
- <kuid:563140:1507> : Unable to search asset <kuid:563140:1507>. Asset removed from the Download Station..
- <kuid:563140:1509> : Unable to search asset <kuid:563140:1509>. Asset removed from the Download Station..
- <kuid:563140:1510> : Unable to search asset <kuid:563140:1510>. Asset removed from the Download Station..

All of the <kuid>s listed above had been "up-versioned" (e.g. <kuid:563140:1506> was replaced in the download by <kuid2:563140:1506:1>). So if those assets had been manually removed, for whatever reason (or they were never on the DLS - see my theory below), then it had no effect on the download or operation of the asset.

One possible theory: The original asset <kuid563140:1573>, along with its siblings, was on a 3rd party web site. The author updated the assets to <kuid2:563140:xxxx:1> and placed them on the DLS but the config.txt files still reference the original versions (without the 2: and :1). CM skipped these legacy versions, with the messages shown, and automatically grabbed the updated versions in the download.

 

[wreeder]

Could someone from N3V please step up and ensure assets no longer on the DLS (whether due to copyright breach, author request or whatever) no longer appear. Thank you.

If you want a reply from N3V then add @N3VSupport to your message.

 

[pware]

Diving deeper dive into this issue, I opened the config.txt file of <kuid2:563140:1573:1> LU 3rd Power Ramp and found references, in the asset LOD, to another asset <kuid563140:1599>.

This asset does not exist on the DLS but two "up-versionsed" assets, <kuid2:563140:1599:1> and <kuid2:563140:1599:2> LU Bullhead Track Meshes, are on the DLS. When CM installed <kuid2:563140:1573:1> it also installed <kuid2:563140:1599:2> and by-passed the earlier :1 version.

I would say that the original <kuid563140:1573> and <kuid563140:1599> (and all the other version "0" assets) never existed on the DLS and were, therefore, not removed. The author may have had them on a 3rd party site and up-versioned them before uploading to the DLS or, as some creators (myself included) have sometimes done, skipped over the version "0"s and released the up-versioned :1 or :2 assets as the first release.