Who is interested in the SR&RL and Maine 2 footers? Post here.

[JCitron]

Peter,

The crushed stone from south-central Maine, in the White Mountains region, would be the golden yellow-brown to while colored granite. Our rocks up here in New England are mainly granite, quartzite, and feldspar. Maine did ship mica at one time, but I'm not sure how much went into freight cars for that.

Now for the pun... You can say we take our rocks for granite up here.... HA!

John

 

[narrowgauge]

John, you should get hung for that!

I've found a source of crushed rock images, what I need to know now is what size are the crushings? Railway ballast, concrete size, are they just rock pieces or mixed with fines?

Peter

 

[ricomon35]

A little inspirational video for this thread :wave:

World War One, Narrow Gauge Train Lines in France
Track laying, line building, materials and labor transport, well filmed !

 

[JCitron]

John, you should get hung for that!

I've found a source of crushed rock images, what I need to know now is what size are the crushings? Railway ballast, concrete size, are they just rock pieces or mixed with fines?

Peter

Peter,

Thanks! I love puns, can you tell?

I would say go for a mix and match. Most places have stone sorters to and screens to filter out the dust and sort the stones by size. I'm glad you found an image source. Sometimes that can be the most difficult part of the hobby.

To add a bit of confusion, I forgot to mention that the coastal regions still ship lime, limestone, and marble from quarries. There's a standard gauge line out to Rockland Maine which carries lime for cement making. This former Maine Central line is now the Main Eastern. If someone wants to include something like that I'm sure some pure white or off white (beige) would be good for limestone.

John

 

[22alpha]

Would anyone be opposed to a fictional covered RR bridge modeled off of the styles you would find in Maine, NH, and VT? If not I'll post up some screens here soon once I get to a point where it looks ok.

Thanks,

Mike

 

[slugsmasher]

Would anyone be opposed to a fictional covered RR bridge modeled off of the styles you would find in Maine, NH, and VT? If not I'll post up some screens here soon once I get to a point where it looks ok.

Thanks,

Mike

You could make one based on an actual one if not too far along already. The only one I know of on the SR&RL is the bridge at Phillips. Here is a link to a model of it, no drawings sorry:

http://educate.spsu.edu/achurell/SRRLCoveredBridge.html

The book "Ride the Sandy River" on page 97 has a poor picture of it. The link above gives a better representation.

 

[BobbyT]

Was just going through all the postings, and came acrossyour Excursion car. While researchingthese cars to build an On2 model, I read that some or all were painted Yellow,not the normal passenger car green. Perthe book "Two Feet Between The Rails" there were six excursion cars, numbered 26 through 31. Like a lot of information about theSR&RL, one can find differing information. Per the referenced book, Number 27 and 31 were stored in the Kingfieldcar barn for many years, and were scrapped in 1936. Other documents say it was 28 and 31. Number 27 and 28 were both 23'11" inlength and 6' wide, and had open ends. Number 30 and 31 were 29'11" in length and 6'5" wide, and atleast 31 had sliding doors with glass ends. Never the less - your rendition of 31 is afantastic model.

 

[BobbyT]

RE: Covered Bridge
As with anything related to the SR&RL there are a number of excellent books available. I have most of the published information, plus a data base of related information that I have collected over 60 years. There are a number o fgood pictures - including some from its original building to its dismantling to be found in "Two Feet Between The Rails" and "Sunset on The Sandy River". If doing a model of this bridge, note that both ends were angled - not squared to the main structure.

 

[22alpha]

You could make one based on an actual one if not too far along already. The only one I know of on the SR&RL is the bridge at Phillips. Here is a link to a model of it, no drawings sorry:

http://educate.spsu.edu/achurell/SRRLCoveredBridge.html

The book "Ride the Sandy River" on page 97 has a poor picture of it. The link above gives a better representation.

I think I'll give it a try. If anyone has any more info available about it like rough dimensions I will get started on it.

Thanks!

Mike

 

[LoGrant54]

Thanks guys. Lot of good info there.

I was aware of the Monson and the Rockport lines. Have seen the remnants of both. I have a photo the loco at the Rockport lime ovens.

I finally got SR&RL #15 loco to work so maybe there is hope for me yet.

I wasn't thinking of any particular size for crushed stone. We use anything from huge blocks of cut stone down to 1/2 inch or smaller. a variety of stone/rock loads would be appropriate, I think.

Scenery objects, My current project is set pre-1959. I wanted it to be 1940s but I can't find many American made cars that old. I'm subbing old Aussie and Britt cars. Buildings typical of the era are difficult to find too. I need a 1940s era two engine firehouse, preferably brick, and two firetrucks.

Lo

 

[BobbyT]

Re: Phillips CoveredBridge
You asked for some measurements, so here are what I believe are as accurate as you can find. I have not seen any scale drawings of this structure. The info presented here is from "Two Feet Between The Rails", by Robert Jones. This is long out of publication, but can be found occasionally on E-bay or from Ron's' Books. There are two volumes, both with 416 pages. While there are a number of other reference materials, these two volumes should be in any serious SR&RL modelers library. Within these volumes, there are at least ten photographs of the structure. Volume 1, page 104 defines it as "two 100 foot long sections, with three stone piers 14 feet high". Page 111, says that the "end piers were 14 feet high. The bridge was a Howe truss, designed to carry a 25 ton locomotive. It was comprised of three 6x 10 inch and 6 x 9 inch strands. Height from the top of the rail to the top lateral bracing was 13 feet 4 inches."
As with any model of a prototype, photographs are most beneficial in getting the structure as close as possible, and the ones in this publication show all the details. As with most Maine NG railroad structures this one probably never had a coat of paint.
There are some excellent photographs of the bridge being dismantled in "Sunset On The Sandy River". They show the base bridge structure with the outside sheeting removed. A must for a super detailed model.
Using an end on view, I have estimated the overall width at 14.5 feet; height to top of the peaked roof at 15 feet, with an additional 4.5 feet for the support beams. These are the measurements I used to create a version for my TRAINZ SR&RL, however, I shortened the overalllength to 128 feet.

 

[narrowgauge]

Following up on the granite load requirement I offer this:-

If you want to try it, download from this link. it will update the gondola config and give you the new commodity.

http://narrowgaugetrainz.com/srrl_gondola_load.cdp

Peter

 

[JCitron]

Thank you Peter.

John

 

[LoGrant54]

Following up on the granite load requirement I offer this:-

If you want to try it, download from this link. it will update the gondola config and give you the new commodity.

http://narrowgaugetrainz.com/srrl_gondola_load.cdp

Peter

Thanks Peter, but what I had in mind is more of an aggregate or new ballast color like this.

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[narrowgauge]

LoGrant

Short of copying the one you posted, this is the nearest I could find.

Peter

 

[LoGrant54]

"Two Feet Between The Rails", by Robert Jones. This is long out of publication, but can be found occasionally on E-bay or from Ron's' Books. There are two volumes, both with 416 pages. While there are a number of other reference materials, these two volumes should be in any serious SR&RL modelers library.

I know where there is a copy of this for sale but I cannot afford it.

 

[narrowgauge]

I have seen several, all about the $400 mark. More than I'm prepared to pay. I enjoy making freeware content for the DR&RL, but not at that expense.

22Alpha

What did you pay for your copy?. If there are any plans in there that show rolling stock not yet made, I would appreciate scanned copies

Logrant54.

You didn't comment about the latest load. The original was labelled as 'granite aggregate', can't get much closer than that.

Peter

 

[BobbyT]

PLANS SOURCE:

For a whole bunch of inexpensive plans for a number of Maine 2ft equipment and structures, you should get a copy of a catalog from : Underground Railway Press P.O. Box 814NG Brevard, NC 28712-0814 .
The catalog that I have, shows prices of $4.00 to $6.00 per plan. The catalog lists many plans for other railroads as well. The catalog costs $2.00, however, there is no website for this company.
As noted in other postings, www.RonsBooks.com is a good source of all new and out of publication documents. Granted the cost can be high, but I have had excellent service from this source.
Probably the best and most reasonably priced source that I know of is www.maine2footquarterly.com. I have many of the plan books listed from this source, and they are most beneficial when building virtual and/or real models.

 

[slugsmasher]

Peter, In the spirit of quality freeware begets more quality freeware - here is a jackpot of drawings to use right now!

http://twofootartist.com/drawings-in-progress/

I may even jump back into making some structures with these offerings. If anybody else thinks they are going to build something to support this project then post what you are doing so we don't duplicate efforts.

 

[narrowgauge]

Rich, that is some really good stuff

I read the description of the Creamery and am now a very puzzled peter. The information I have is that car #21 was built as a milk car with sawdust insulated walls and an end door. This then became SR&RL #59, still designated as a milk car. Also, there is a photo of Car #59 with the Creamery in the back ground. Somewhere else there was comment that the first run in the morning was a milk run headed for Strong.

Do I finish #59 or make it into something else?

I had intentions of making B&SR #8 but that is some way down the track. If someone else wants to do that one grab it here.

Does anyone have the intention of updating the big SR&RL route, I ask because there don't seems to be any bridges or river at Phillips and overall the track looks too tidy and well ballasted.

Peter