Tuning a locomotive

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bcarter

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Are there T:ANE equivalents to the two pages linked below? I imported an older steam engine locomotive into T:ANE. After a small edit to the enginespec it works fine but the warnings show several (more recent?) parameters were missing and set to default. My little tank engine is likely more powerful than it was intended, perhaps as a result of these default settings. I don't know where to go to adjust them or what typical numbers might be. Thanks in advance for any help.

http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/index.php/CCG/Steam-Engine

This one was particularly helpful.
http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/index.php/CCG/Example:_Steam-Engine

Take care,

Brent
 
Gentlemen,

Thanks for the replies. The engine is a Glaskasten, so very small and I assume not very powerful. I should be clear this is my first foray into this arena so don't assume I know anything.

Bill,
Do you know of a modern E-spec somewhere I could substitute or at least use as a basis for setting this one up properly?

Peter,
Thanks for the links. Sorry for my ignorance but are those are "modern" parameters I would use for T:ANE?
 
bcarter said:
Gentlemen,

Thanks for the replies. The engine is a Glaskasten, so very small and I assume not very powerful. I should be clear this is my first foray into this arena so don't assume I know anything.

Bill,
Do you know of a modern E-spec somewhere I could substitute or at least use as a basis for setting this one up properly?

Peter,
Thanks for the links. Sorry for my ignorance but are those are "modern" parameters I would use for T:ANE?
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Hi Peter,

Is that loco available on the DLS? I don't know what any of the data is for that one so can't recommend an e-spec. If you can give me a link or at least some of the data I may be able to recommend one.

The modern parameters are capacity=cubic meters, lengths=meters, weights=Kgs. speed=meters/second.

Cheers,
Bill
 
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p-dehnert said:
Hello Bill,

I'm not the one asking for the e-spec, but here is a link to the Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_PtL_2/2
And this are links to models at the DLS:
https://www.auran.com/DLS/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=13496
https://www.auran.com/DLS/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=186155

Peter
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Hi Peter,

Yeh, sorry about that, I realised after posting that I had replied to the wrong person.

However thanks for the links to the loco in question.

Cheers,
Bill
 
bcarter said:
Gentlemen,

Thanks for the replies. The engine is a Glaskasten, so very small and I assume not very powerful. I should be clear this is my first foray into this arena so don't assume I know anything.

Bill,
Do you know of a modern E-spec somewhere I could substitute or at least use as a basis for setting this one up properly?

Peter,
Thanks for the links. Sorry for my ignorance but are those are "modern" parameters I would use for T:ANE?
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Hi Brent,

I have made up an e-spec for the loco but can't test it yet as it does not have a steam cab. I think I might know of a steam cab that can be used but it's bed time here, will have a look tomorrow.

Cheers,
Bill69
 
Thanks again to you both for the effort. I'll look forward to seeing how the test goes.

Bill,
I've got an excel spreadsheet that contains the existing e-spec for the loco in question. Let me know if you would like me to forward that to you. I'm not sure if attachments can be done via PM.
 
bcarter said:
Thanks again to you both for the effort. I'll look forward to seeing how the test goes.

Bill,
I've got an excel spreadsheet that contains the existing e-spec for the loco in question. Let me know if you would like me to forward that to you. I'm not sure if attachments can be done via PM.
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Hi Brent,

I think I have to give up with this one. I have given it a new e-spec with a steam section and replaced the cab, now all the levers and controls in the cab seem to work ok but the loco will not move in CAB mode. The original e-spec is actually a diesel e-spec, i.e. it does not have a steam section, just works on throttle power.

You can forward the spreadsheet to me but I have my own spreadsheet for steam locos which works with most locos but not this one.
I think the values for cylinder volume, steam chest volume and boiler volume work out too small to make the loco work. For instance the cylinders are given as 305mm and 365mm by 400mm stroke which gives a max piston volume of 0.00004 m^3 and a minimum piston volume of 0.00000177 m^3 and I don't think Trainz can handle such small volumes, too many decimal places.

The original can be driven in CAB mode but you can't add coal or water, or change the cutoff, this just makes it simpler to drive.

I will send you a PM with my email address.

Cheers,
Bill
 
The correct data for this locomotive are in the second table at the Wikipedia (1908-1914 version).
Pistom volume should be (pi*r*r*h) 3.14 * 0.16m * 0.16m * 0.4m = 0.032 m^3 .

Peter
 
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