jadebullet
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Time to make people sad.
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More pissed off, but yeah still sad. Though ive seen that shot many times it still hurts.
That unit was the only diesel power of the Gainesville Midland railway which operated between my home town of Athens, GA and Gaineville, GA. When SCL-L&N-and the Georgia group merged in the SBD the unit was repainted and stayed in those colors until being cut up by CSX. It was unique on the CSX roster in lacking dynamic brakes, kind of strange with all the hogbacks on the GM, but for whatever reason the decision was made, it no doubt made it a early candidate for retirement.
I really wish this engine would have been preserved, whether in Atlanta at SERM or just gutted and put on display at Gainesville alongside the decapod, but CSX is not known for its historical pride so this is what happens instead.
I hope someone saved the Leslie 5 atleast.
Glory days
http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/9/5/9/4959.1240839742.jpg
That unit was the only diesel power of the Gainesville Midland railway which operated between my home town of Athens, GA and Gaineville, GA. When SCL-L&N-and the Georgia group merged in the SBD the unit was repainted and stayed in those colors until being cut up by CSX. It was unique on the CSX roster in lacking dynamic brakes, kind of strange with all the hogbacks on the GM, but for whatever reason the decision was made, it no doubt made it a early candidate for retirement.
I really wish this engine would have been preserved, whether in Atlanta at SERM or just gutted and put on display at Gainesville alongside the decapod, but CSX is not known for its historical pride so this is what happens instead.
I hope someone saved the Leslie 5 atleast.
Glory days
http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/9/5/9/4959.1240839742.jpg
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jadebullet
might be back?
I would love that crane as a load. By the way, I didn't care as much about it until I read it's history. That was a beautiful locomotive in its hayday.
Yeah i figured you didnt, but i figured i may as well post what i know about it, a little bit of random information. If it was just another Seaboard SD40 i probably wouldnt have cared either but this one was one of a kind.
SantaFebuff
That's So Trainz Forum
Welcome to the 'Boneyard'.
Joshua
Joshua
I would guess that it was to make it cheaper, but I do not know. Kind of like a modern version of the G&F ordering GP7s with solid (friction) bearings.
While it was before I got there, I seem to recall that SRM's contact at CSX wanted to work to get it, but it was retired and scrapping commenced before he even heard about it.
The moral of the story is to ask early. That story is doubled by my experience of writing a letter to try to get one of the last ex-Southern Railway SD45 that still had the original high nose. Another member said he was going to work on it, but I found out a few months later that he hadn't done anything with it. In the end, I wrote the letter and got a response saying that they had already started cutting the engines up.
If it had been scrapped down here, I'm sure it would have been (I even know who would have saved it). Since it was at Huntington, I don't know. Of course, if it were scrapped down here, there is a higher chance that it would have been saved by SRM's contact.
Cheers,
Ben
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D9007_Pinza
Murringo's shed foreman
Apologies if this offends anyone, but what is so special about this paticular loco? (coming from an Australian/UK railway fan who knows very little on American locos.)
transitguard
workin' away.......
I don't know... I never understood what was so special to people about diesels...
jadebullet
might be back?
It was one of two special locomotives on the CSX roster that had alot of history. One got painted over, and one got scrapped, as you see here. They were in special paintschemes, one C&O Frankenstein, and one in Seaboard.
Sad? Try these
http://narrowgaugememories.com/v/Rio+Grande+in+the+60s/alamosatochama/DRGWala490onflat950.jpg.html
Nothing left of 490 except her cab, and her upside down smile now rests on 492. She was the only K-37, or any large K class locomotive, to have its smile as a frown.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/will107/Trains/DSC00858.jpg
If you look close, you can see where part of 490's smokebox was transplanted onto 492. She was in a wreck before abandonment in 68, and because she was in better shape, 492's damage was repaired with parts off 490. the cab of 490 is lying in a junkyard somewhere, might still be worth saving.
http://narrowgaugememories.com/v/Rio+Grande+in+the+60s/alamosatochama/DRGWala490onflat950.jpg.html
Nothing left of 490 except her cab, and her upside down smile now rests on 492. She was the only K-37, or any large K class locomotive, to have its smile as a frown.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/will107/Trains/DSC00858.jpg
If you look close, you can see where part of 490's smokebox was transplanted onto 492. She was in a wreck before abandonment in 68, and because she was in better shape, 492's damage was repaired with parts off 490. the cab of 490 is lying in a junkyard somewhere, might still be worth saving.
D9007_Pinza
Murringo's shed foreman
Could someone please explain the history of CSX 4600?
Yeah thats definitely true, though many locomotives have been saved at the 11th hour, many more have been lost due to the inability to work things out at the last minute. Same story with a FEC geep that Columbus & Greenville just cut up. Right now preservation groups should be keeping a very close eye on IC 6071, the first production SD40, or mabye even purcahse it from CN since they may be auctioning it off though there are rumors CN is donating it.
Would you be reffering to MRL (ex-Guilford) 680? That one was cut up lately, i believe Guilford still has one in storage. If there are still any left please dont give up that cause, one of those impressive machines needs to be saved.
No, that's an ex-N&W unit. WAMCo had a quartet of SD45s up for sale last year. Two, from the Eastern Idaho Railroad (EIRR), were ex-Southern 3133 and 3167. As far as I know, they were the last original Southern SD45s in existence. There are several that still exist with chopped noses, though. I don't think it would be impossible to undo the chopped nose, but it is probably more trouble than it's worth.
Since I was unaware of any other high nose Southern SD45s, I started trying to push for an SCL SD45-2 or SLSF SD45. SCL and SLSF are very underrepresented in preservation. The SLSF unit would be a hard sell (even though they did run into Atlanta and down the AB&C via trackage rights during the 1970s and 1980s), but the SCL unit would be a perfect fit.
However, I'm no longer a volunteer there, so I have no say in trying to get anything donated.
EDIT: Hmm, it just occurred to me that N&W SD45s are getting scarce, too. MRL 680 was one of the few I knew of. I think Guilford still has one. EDIT: Nope, it was retired last year.
Cheers,
Ben
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I think a Frisco SD45 or a SCL SD45-2 would be great candidates for preservation.
Im not sure what the concencus in the preservation world is about this, but would it be that great of a sin to save a N&W SD45 and restore it as a Southern SD45? All that varies were a few things like Bell placement and horn type.
But i guess this is all irrelevant now, but it would still be nice if SERM or someone could preserve a HH SD45.
Im not sure what the concencus in the preservation world is about this, but would it be that great of a sin to save a N&W SD45 and restore it as a Southern SD45? All that varies were a few things like Bell placement and horn type.
But i guess this is all irrelevant now, but it would still be nice if SERM or someone could preserve a HH SD45.
I'd personally like to see one or two of Southern's old GE's preserved, I remember back when DeButts Yard here in Chattanooga was having it's 50 year old celebration, I saw bunch of the -7's in the dead line. I know there's also some operable U-boats running around, too.
illinoiscentral
SARM Volunteer
I'll be telling my group about this.
We're all about IC and this would be a great addition.
Woody
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
I believe both B&O 3802 (Trains Magazine's "All-American Diesel") and WM 3798 (CSXT 6573) were both saved last minute like that.
IIRC, 3802 had a generator failure or something like that and it was set aside for sale/scrapping and someone remembered the stencil on the battery box and the promise by B&O/CSX to send it to Baltimore to the B&O Railroad Museum.
And WM 3798 was supposed to be set aside for preservation but wasn't. Then it was to be sold to a scrapper, but was sold to Indiana Southern instead who REMOVED THE DYNAMIC BRAKES... why? To what purpose? If you don't want 'em, don't use 'em. But in hilly southern Indiana? Are you kidding? (They probably painted it pink with unicorns and fairies on it, too. Growl...)
At least, that is what I read.
I am amazed that only one SD45 has been saved. They're almost all gone now. I can't imagine an EL SD45, SDP45, or SD45-2 might not be around. Or one from BN/NYS&W or AT&SF in its delivery blue and yellow or SP with all the extra lights they put on theirs. Or one of the Clinchfield ex-SCL repaints, the only patch job I'd want to save - it was an improvement on CRR's regular paint scheme!
Is anyone working on saving either an SD40 or an SD40-2? I hope CSX 4617 (former C&O) gets saved. By the time someone starts, it might be too late.
IIRC, 3802 had a generator failure or something like that and it was set aside for sale/scrapping and someone remembered the stencil on the battery box and the promise by B&O/CSX to send it to Baltimore to the B&O Railroad Museum.
And WM 3798 was supposed to be set aside for preservation but wasn't. Then it was to be sold to a scrapper, but was sold to Indiana Southern instead who REMOVED THE DYNAMIC BRAKES... why? To what purpose? If you don't want 'em, don't use 'em. But in hilly southern Indiana? Are you kidding? (They probably painted it pink with unicorns and fairies on it, too. Growl...)
At least, that is what I read.
I am amazed that only one SD45 has been saved. They're almost all gone now. I can't imagine an EL SD45, SDP45, or SD45-2 might not be around. Or one from BN/NYS&W or AT&SF in its delivery blue and yellow or SP with all the extra lights they put on theirs. Or one of the Clinchfield ex-SCL repaints, the only patch job I'd want to save - it was an improvement on CRR's regular paint scheme!
Is anyone working on saving either an SD40 or an SD40-2? I hope CSX 4617 (former C&O) gets saved. By the time someone starts, it might be too late.
It would be nice to have this in Trainz...!
The Gainesville Midland sole SD40 wore the Brunswick Green paint scheme of the Seaboard Air Line for quite a long time after the merger of the SAL with the Atlantic Coast Line to form the Seaboard Coast Line Railroad.
The lack of dynamic braking probably was the reason the locomotive stayed on its home road.
This is the only SD40 owned by any of the roads that made up the SCL up to the forming of the Family Lines System.
Here in 1970 in Jefferson, GA...
Here in Gainesville, GA in 1976...
This locomotive has appeared on the web in one other scheme I can think of, the Seaboard System(SBD), as #8300, then renumbered to #4600.
The pic in Jadebullets post suggests the classic Leslie SuperTyfon horn replaced the original electric horn.
Dave Muller of Southern Scale Models in Acworth, GA modeled this locomotive using the Athearn SDP40 kit-bashed with a Athearn GP35 way back after it was featured in a project in Railroad Model Craftsman magazine in the '70's.
The Gainesville Midland sole SD40 wore the Brunswick Green paint scheme of the Seaboard Air Line for quite a long time after the merger of the SAL with the Atlantic Coast Line to form the Seaboard Coast Line Railroad.The lack of dynamic braking probably was the reason the locomotive stayed on its home road.
This is the only SD40 owned by any of the roads that made up the SCL up to the forming of the Family Lines System.
Here in 1970 in Jefferson, GA...
Here in Gainesville, GA in 1976...
This locomotive has appeared on the web in one other scheme I can think of, the Seaboard System(SBD), as #8300, then renumbered to #4600.
The pic in Jadebullets post suggests the classic Leslie SuperTyfon horn replaced the original electric horn.
Dave Muller of Southern Scale Models in Acworth, GA modeled this locomotive using the Athearn SDP40 kit-bashed with a Athearn GP35 way back after it was featured in a project in Railroad Model Craftsman magazine in the '70's.