steam replaceing diesel

[aardvark1]

if the demand of steam locmotives here in the us goes up the baldwin locomtive works in philly will reopen to build steam locmotives.

Nope....

No Baldwin in Philadelphia....... but in China?

But, steam will never revive.

Since your a very young adult, you have no concept of cost, ROI and cash flow.

So please, get off the steam kick.....

Thanks,

 

[dpfan1]

Nope....

No Baldwin in Philadelphia....... but in China?

But, steam will never revive.

Since your a very young adult, you have no concept of cost, ROI and cash flow.

So please, get off the steam kick.....

Thanks,

it can be revive on main line passenger and tourist railroads like strasburg.

 

[RooRocz]

it can be revive on main line passenger and tourist railroads like strasburg.

No it can't.

 

[dpfan1]

No it can't.

dude chill strasburg can revive the 1361 to steam. and listen to Johnny Cash Hurt.

 

[Stationbeem]

I used to enjoy reading these threads in the prototype section. Now i think is the time some thing was done about this young trainzer. All we seem to get from him is Strasburg, #90 or Johnny Cash "Hurt". He is causing disruption all over this section of the threads, he will not listen to what people are saying, and he is quoting every single post. A lot of members are getting quite fed up with it. I think it is about time a Mod intervened with this poster and got things back to normality. I am slowly being put off reading this section of the threads. There used to be some quite knowledgeable content on here. But since this trainzer arrived everything has started to go down hill. Lets hope it ends soon. I know i may get some flack for this post but i had to get it off my chest.

Regards Dave.

 

[K4driver]

I used to enjoy reading these threads in the prototype section. Now i think is the time some thing was done about this young trainzer. All we seem to get from him is Strasburg, #90 or Johnny Cash "Hurt". He is causing disruption all over this section of the threads, he will not listen to what people are saying, and he is quoting every single post. A lot of members are getting quite fed up with it. I think it is about time a Mod intervened with this poster and got things back to normality. I am slowly being put off reading this section of the threads. There used to be some quite knowledgeable content on here. But since this trainzer arrived everything has started to go down hill. Lets hope it ends soon. I know i may get some flack for this post but i had to get it off my chest.

Regards Dave.

Thank you for saying that, I would have said something similar, but you would have not seen me for months..

 

[Stationbeem]

Thank you for saying that, I would have said something similar, but you would have not seen me for months..

I did have a lot more in there but i edited it out. Don't want to get banned my self. I know others in the community would have put it stronger and risked a ban. I would not like that to happen, That's why i posted it the way it is.

 

[dpfan1]

I used to enjoy reading these threads in the prototype section. Now i think is the time some thing was done about this young trainzer. All we seem to get from him is Strasburg, #90 or Johnny Cash "Hurt". He is causing disruption all over this section of the threads, he will not listen to what people are saying, and he is quoting every single post. A lot of members are getting quite fed up with it. I think it is about time a Mod intervened with this poster and got things back to normality. I am slowly being put off reading this section of the threads. There used to be some quite knowledgeable content on here. But since this trainzer arrived everything has started to go down hill. Lets hope it ends soon. I know i may get some flack for this post but i had to get it off my chest.

Regards Dave.

hey i am just a railfan. that likes strasburg #90 and johnny cash hurt. is there a problem?

 

[Stationbeem]

hey i am just a railfan. that likes strasburg #90 and johnny cash hurt. is there a problem?

As a matter of fact there is a problem. This is all you go on about. When people ask you a question you never give an answer to the question. Everything you post is irrelevant. You don't listen. We are getting very tired of the same remarks. Do some research before you post anything. Also there are more sections to post in on the forums, not just the prototype section. And please think before you post about people being told to shut up. I suggest you read the Code of Conduct before you do any thing else.

Nuff said.

 

[dpfan1]

Thank you for saying that, I would have said something similar, but you would have not seen me for months..

hey k4 driver strasburg is the best steam locmotive shop better then steamtown heck 1361 and 261 deserve better treatment they they are now.

 

[Stationbeem]

hey k4 driver strasburg is the best steam locmotive shop better then steamtown heck 1361 and 261 deserve better treatment they they are now.

Sorry. Poster reported.

 

[D9007_Pinza]

it can be revive on main line passenger and tourist railroads like strasburg.

Tourist groups, yes. Mainline passenger operators. No.

 

[dpfan1]

Sorry. Poster reported.

dude chill out like danny phantom.

 

[K4driver]

dude chill out like danny phantom.

Dude, please stop using excessive smiley faces, and stop double posting it is against the C.O.C to double post .

 

[dpfan1]

Dude, please stop using excessive smiley faces, and stop double posting it is against the C.O.C to double post .

you saying that i cant double post about steam?

 

[AJ_Fox]

Lets everyone settle down please or the thread will be closed.

Cheers

AJ

 

[dpfan1]

you see 261 has more power then an amtrak locmotive. and it can pull tourist trains on the strasburg.

 

[zues]

hey k4 driver strasburg is the best steam locmotive shop better then steamtown heck 1361 and 261 deserve better treatment they they are now.

261 is NOT going to steamtown or strasburg. It is staying in the midwest (i hope).:n:

 

[RooRocz]

you see 261 has more power then an amtrak locmotive. and it can pull tourist trains on the strasburg.

Yeah but a P42 can run for thousands of miles without breaking down and has standardized parts so that it can be fixed in ten minutes.

Also it uses less fuel and doesn't require water.

You can start it up in a few minutes, whereas a steam locomotive takes several hours to start.

The crew can be smaller.

The P42 has HEP units, the 261 doesn't.

The list goes on and on...

 

[PereMarquette1225fan]

I like steam power myself, but even I think returning to steam won't happen. Sorry but the problem is cost. Sure steam is swell and all but when maintenance comes into play a more modern diesel electric from General Electric or Electro Motive Diesel would just be better for handling more modern passenger and freight trains. Some railroads like Burlington Northern Santa Fe are trying new fuel sources to power diesels. Now, don't get me wrong. Steam is great power, but the conversion from steam to diesel was what the railroads saw as an answer to bring costs down, 'cause when the Interstate Highway System was created the railroads started losing dough (money). They couldn't keep up with the changing affect on the railroads. If diesels didn't came around, steam locomotives would have bankrupted the railroads. Sure, I'd love to see Pere Marquette 1225 take a freight train for CSX Transportation, but the world is at a faster pace than it was 50 or 60 years ago. So, it's best that they keep taking excursions and besides that...steam locomotives require more serving facilities like water and coaling towers. Diesels only need refueling hubs so they can pick up fuel and go. Many diesels can pull one or two trains without refueling, so diesels are better to that degree. But, we can't change history. Mankind wants to move forward, not backwards so dieselization was in a sense a good thing.