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Love the iron on the roof!
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In Victor Harbor at the moment, seems every second house is in that classic style in many different designs. Love the classic architecture in these country towns (and the price of diesel isn't bad either). The silo's look excellent, just like the many I saw on the drive over here yesterday. The silo at Coonalpyn was pretty captivating with the mural of the children ( by Guido van Helten)
Well this is a weird one, I wanted to get an install of SAR 930 class and i saw it was missing a dependency , didn't bother to check the size, it starts downloading, its downloading at 8mb a second and its taking forever, when i check the dependency its around 900 megs ! F7 cabin, which is utterly crazy , turns out the 900 class has the same dependency installed. Anyone got any ideas as to what to substitute in its place ?, as that is a ridiculously sized dependency.
I cannot find any assets with that name, or similar, on the DLS or the Web.
Could you supply <kuid>s as they are much more specific than often "vague" and sometimes misremembered asset names.
The only restrictions that N3V often place on DLS listed assets in CM is on older assets that almost always have too many errors when installed in the later Trainz versions. These assets cannot be found in CM using a search based on their asset names. However, if you search using their <kuid>s then the restriction will be ignored.
I believe it is <kuid:840199:100088> SAR 750 class tender. No N class mentioned in the name, but it is in the description. I do not see a corresponding loco, so I assume it is something one has to use creative filtering in CM to come up with. EDIT, I used "On Download Station" "AND" "Author" "sar621", and I came up with <kuid:840199:100087> SAR 750 Class locomotive both are build version 3.7
Yes that worked.
The loco loaded into Trainz Plus without any errors so that could not be the reason.
I searched the DLS using CM in both TRS22PE and Trainz Plus beta stream versions with the name search "SAR 750" and both the loco and the tender appeared in both. So it must all be in the wrist action
The loco loaded into Trainz Plus without any errors so that could not be the reason.
I searched the DLS using CM in both TRS22PE and Trainz Plus beta stream versions with the name search "SAR 750" and both the loco and the tender appeared in both. So it must all be in the wrist action
Well, I'm glad you find this amusing, you are correct in one aspect, but Peter, you should not assume I am using the same version of the game as you, I am using TRS 2019. I have both the engine and tender , I wasnt asking you find it for me. The loco and tender are both visible in 2022, which I've just fired up to check,, but I was using SP4 2019 as I am working on the Willunga route in that trainz version, I can assure you the engine is not visible in CM , unless you think that I'm losing my marbles . I am getting old but I'm not as yet as daft as you gleefully seem to think I am
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No I didn't find it amusing and I know you didn't ask me to find it but you did ask the question ...
I am sorry for trying to be helpful to you. A mistake I will not make again.
Both the loco and its tender have asset build numbers of 3.7 which is for TRS12 and higher and I can see no reason why the loco would not appear in a search using CM. The trick, as I have often found, is in how you phrase the search terms.
Peter, you should not assume I am using the same version of the game as you, I am using TRS 2019. I have both the engine and tender , I wasnt asking you find it for me. The loco and tender are both visible in 2022, which ive just fired up to check,, but I was using SP4 2019 as I am working on the Willunga route in that trainz version, I can assure you the engine is not visible in CM , unless you think that I'm losing my marbles . I am getting old but i'm not as thick as you seem to think I am
I have no issue with your first reply, I appreciated it , however , you certainly implied that I screwed up in my search in your second reply ," So it must all be in the wrist action
" what else can I assume you meant other that its a stupid mistake made by me ?iIt is perfectly possible for trainz to display different results, depending on the version one is using , i checked using two different versions of trainz in 2019 and neither showed a result for the loco,searching for
" SAR 750" which i found in mere seconds when i used CM 2022, can you explain why it didnt work using 2019 ? the only reason could be that the versions I am using are rather old, and the versions you are using are not ....
Thanks for checking, but its still the wrong version, I'm using build 114800,SP4, and build 98569 on my mac, it was definitely NOT visible in either. if I'd stuffed up I would fess up, I frequently know that I do, however in this case ... not so.
As a postscript, as an experiment, I just deleted the installed engine I downloaded via ftp in build 114800, ( and fully expecting that I would not be able to replicate the issue ) did an standard database rebuild .
I then went to DLS in CM , typed in SAR 750, which is what I did in the first place and lo, its now showing on the DLS , large as life , however it was initially not showing any file size...... it then did so when I began the download.
So either I am a complete imbecile, or its another one of those infuriating trainz quirks. ( or its possibly both, perhaps I imagined the whole thing, quite honestly after a decade of using trainz , anything is possible. ....... and its made me I look like a complete idiot , still thats nothing new .)
I must admit that build 114800 does some very strange things and they are increasing as I progress with my current route, it will replace some assets using bulk replace, but only throughout the entire route, selecting just some items or restricting the replace to just a single board causes a complete crash, it sometimes crashes when I try to replace certain types of assets, , and there are other faults, perhaps it is time to update, but I am afraid that doing so may break more than it fixes .....
I then went to DLS in CM , typed in SAR 750, which is what I did in the first place and lo, its now showing on the DLS , large as life , however it was initially not showing any file size...... it then did so when I began the download.
So either I am a complete imbecile, or its another one of those infuriating trainz quirks. ( or its possibly both, perhaps I imagined the whole thing, quite honestly after a decade of using trainz , anything is possible. ....... and its made me I look like a complete idiot , still thats nothing new .)
I must admit that build 114800 does some very strange things and they are increasing as I progress with my current route, it will replace some assets using bulk replace, but only throughout the entire route, selecting just some items or restricting the replace to just a single board causes a complete crash, it sometimes crashes when I try to replace certain types of assets, , and there are other faults, perhaps it is time to update, but I am afraid that doing so may break more than it fixes .....
Dan,
The problems you had are related to how the queries are made in Content Manager. If we had wildcards and other finer-level capabilities, you could have easily set up a query to search for SAR 7* for instance and CM could return the results for you easily. What we have is only implicit queries where we have to know what we're looking for and if we don't have the exact spelling, then we get zero results. This is why some people can find things while others can't. In all the databases I have used, this is the only one set up this way.
I put something about this in the suggestion boxcar forum ages ago but that was ignored.
The problems you had are related to how the queries are made in Content Manager. If we had wildcards and other finer-level capabilities, you could have easily set up a query to search for SAR 7* for instance and CM could return the results for you easily. What we have is only implicit queries where we have to know what we're looking for and if we don't have the exact spelling, then we get zero results. This is why some people can find things while others can't. In all the databases I have used, this is the only one set up this way.
I put something about this in the suggestion boxcar forum ages ago but that was ignored.
The thing is tho John, I found the item using the identical search criteria which had not worked earlier, SAR 750, also, the tender was found using that criteria and in trs 2022 , both tender and loco and all related dependencies appeared immediatel when I typed in SAR 750, that really didn't make sense.
Also when I did the search after I'd deleted the installed ftp , why was the asset showing as zero file size on the DLS ,it stood out like a sore thumb, whereas all the other SAR items in the list had a file size? it was almost as if it had been absent and something I'd done had jogged it into place,but not completely as far as the database was concerned,, I should have taken a screen shot of it .
What I also can't understand is that I've already downloaded all SAR content that I could find previously, including South African stuff as it's also sometimes labeled SAR, and this loco never appeared previously, I'm presuming thats why I either hadn't downloaded the tender , because it had no accompanying engine .... it's weird.
Ive recently also had a loco that refuses to become usable, which is showing as red , even though it is showing zero errors in CM and all dependencies pass muster , but as I've said, possibly the build I'm using is an issue , it's like an old car , chugging along with bits gradually ceasing to function correctly ,but still able to travel, just not all that well.
Bit like me really.
Yup the database queries are odd indeed. I've had other things do that too both locally as well as on the DLS. I've searched twice on assets myself and had two different results which I found odd. I've seen the zero bytes thing but could never figure out why. It may have something to do with the squirrels needing to dig deep into the data to find the bits...
The errors could be due to some scripts used by the locomotive or a faulty dependency of a dependency. I've seen that before and even looking at dependencies recursively doesn't find the error. Sometimes, I've come across a fault and viewing errors and warnings or reverting the asset to original has solved the problem.
We're all losing bits and pieces. I'm off to the rheumatologist tomorrow for my achy joints. Between this visit and others, they keep me busier than I want to be.
The errors could be due to some scripts used by the locomotive or a faulty dependency of a dependency. I've seen that before and even looking at dependencies recursively doesn't find the error. Sometimes, I've come across a fault and viewing errors and warnings or reverting the asset to original has solved the problem.
We're all losing bits and pieces. I'm off to the rheumatologist tomorrow for my achy joints. Between this visit and others, they keep me busier than I want to be.
I've uploaded a whole bunch of modified Clam 1952 cottages, which ,when given brick walls, are fairly close to the austerity houses built in Australia after the second world war, to make them look a bit more authentic I've also replaced the doors and windows with images of SA screen doors and blinds , and also given them tin and tiled roofs in colors used locally. I also made a series of the JR generic bungalows, modded to more closely resemble the California bungalows that we have in the inner suburbs of Adelaide, unfortunately, there are no models that can be reskinned that i can find on the dls that are anything like the classic SA California bungalow, most blocks from pre 1960 in the inner suburbs were only 50 ft wide , and although the jr bungalows are pretty close to the prototype they are very long and thin and the building is one long shape , whereas most of the SA bungalows have a double front , with one of the rooms stepped back. Hopefully some one will make a model in the future but I'm not holding my breath. .
I've made good progress on the Willunga route extension to Adelaide and it should be completed in four or five months , much of the time is pent trying vainly to find items that will stand in for SA assets,
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Goodwood junction
Adelaide station yard, still some trackwork to complete, the station is a total lashup .I've had to combine two auran terminus assets ( which look loosely modelled on the Adelaide station building ) as the station had 13 platforms. the lack of 1950s items is ,once again, a major hassle.
Mile End yard, very little trackwork to do.
mile end oil facility and coal tower
Emerson crossing
This is a swine to make as i cannot find any stand alone boom gates that will fit the width of the road, or that will open and close when a train passes.
it was situated on the intersection of two wide major roads and nothing seems customised to work in this situation, of course most crossings are made for US roads so are no use in my situation, it may well have to do without boom gates. the signals also are failing to work . as I've only ever worked with NG single track token based lines , so I am going to have quite a bit of trouble sorting them out, the SAR had a lot of signals situated at the ends of their stations on this line and there are no junctions at most of them so that may be the issue . I'll have to try and bone up on the signaling aspects of the game as its something i have little experince with.
I've made good progress on the Willunga route extension to Adelaide and it should be completed in four or five months , much of the time is pent trying vainly to find items that will stand in for SA assets,
.
Goodwood junction
Adelaide station yard, still some trackwork to complete, the station is a total lashup .I've had to combine two auran terminus assets ( which look loosely modelled on the Adelaide station building ) as the station had 13 platforms. the lack of 1950s items is ,once again, a major hassle.
Mile End yard, very little trackwork to do.
Emerson crossing
This is a swine to make as i cannot find any stand alone boom gates that will fit the width of the road, or that will open and close when a train passes.
it was situated on the intersection of two wide major roads and nothing seems customised to work in this situation, of course most crossings are made for US roads so are no use in my situation, it may well have to do without boom gates. the signals also are failing to work . as I've only ever worked with NG single track token based lines , so I am going to have quite a bit of trouble sorting them out, the SAR had a lot of signals situated at the ends of their stations on this line and there are no junctions at most of them so that may be the issue . I'll have to try and bone up on the signaling aspects of the game as its something i have little experince with.
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The VR boom gate kit runs on ATLS and is programmable for number of track and width of boom gate (3.5, 7, or 10.5 metre boom) or no boom at all. Parts needed are the gate, a traffic stopper, controller, slave and triggers. You don't mention if you have tried to configure them, but they seem to be the only "local" boom gates available.
I have them all installed and tried it out but haven't the faintest idea of how to get the gates to appear and function, I'm presuming one has to alter the config, if so, would the instruction set that the route builder makes transfer to the route if posted to the DLS as freeware , given the user would have to download the parts from the DLS and any changes I make would presumably not transfer to them ? Or does configuring them then recognise the commands as part of the route ? .I've watched this tutorial on how to set up atls and that's pretty straightforward,
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