Yes, punish the innocent for what the guilty have done. And you are right, the internet is not private. These laws would make it the private domain of corporations and the government, though.
Dave....
SOPA & PIPA - US Trainzers could be in trouble...
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Yes, punish the innocent for what the guilty have done. And you are right, the internet is not private. These laws would make it the private domain of corporations and the government, though.
Dave....
I'm not much of politician person myself, but in my opinion, these bills should go.
I don't speak law. Never have, probably never will. Plus, I don't really care what happens in Detroit, since I don't live there. I obviously now know that you do have a point since you decided to butt in.
These bills have to go. End of discussion.
Goodbye.
Explain to me please how I can "butt in" to a thread on a forum?
Not caring what happens in Detroit is short sighted, are you going to be surprised when it happens in your area?
The bills will either pass or fail, it's not really up to you.
It's also not up to you when the discussion ends.
You can say "Goodbye", but the discussion will go on, you should try not to take it personally.
Since when did you have to take this serious? Not the bills, but my post.
Obviously I truly didn't mean the discussion was over. Clearly what everyone is saying is that these bills have to go, and thats final.
And what I meant by "butting in" was that you really had to take my post and prove me wrong? Really? You really didn't think I would catch on eventually? Just forget it.
deadpoolmx55
LETS GO PENS!
Hacker group Anonymous isn’t happy about the takedown of file-sharing site Megaupload, and as a result, it’s targeting some big companies and government agencies.
Earlier this afternoon, interspersed with a stream of anti-SOPA and PIPA tweets, the main Anonymous Twitter account declared, “The government takes down #Megaupload? 15 minutes later #Anonymous takes down government & record label sites. #ExpectUs.” Specifically, the group claimed responsibility for taking down the Universal Music, RIAA (the record industry’s lobbying arm), MPAA (the movie industry’s lobbying arm), and Department of Justice websites, among others. As of 3pm Pacific, the sites were still down for me, although some comments on Twitter suggested that they were returning online sporadically.
The group also claimed that the current attacks were “the largest attack ever by Anonymous,” with 5,635 participants. And it looks like the campaign is ongoing — Anonymous says it’s going after the FBI’s website next: “Get some popcorn… it’s going to be a long lulzy night.”
Earlier this afternoon, interspersed with a stream of anti-SOPA and PIPA tweets, the main Anonymous Twitter account declared, “The government takes down #Megaupload? 15 minutes later #Anonymous takes down government & record label sites. #ExpectUs.” Specifically, the group claimed responsibility for taking down the Universal Music, RIAA (the record industry’s lobbying arm), MPAA (the movie industry’s lobbying arm), and Department of Justice websites, among others. As of 3pm Pacific, the sites were still down for me, although some comments on Twitter suggested that they were returning online sporadically.
The group also claimed that the current attacks were “the largest attack ever by Anonymous,” with 5,635 participants. And it looks like the campaign is ongoing — Anonymous says it’s going after the FBI’s website next: “Get some popcorn… it’s going to be a long lulzy night.”
Retro00064
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Sounds like a group of low-lives that deserve to be thrown in jail. Twitter ought to ban them for doing stuff like that.
springtransit
What are you looking at?
Of course they can't! Why does the government think they can? If you ask me, it's like prohibition, you outlaw it and they only do it more!
Why, the people trying to censor or take the internet from you deserve to have it? The MPAA pushes the right to take down the internet and deny you access but feels obligated to have a website? I guess Hollywood dollars will dictate what you can view.
Dave......
deadpoolmx55
LETS GO PENS!
i wish i had their IQ
Yeah, I was thinking about this earlier. Chris Dodd is an epic villain on many levels. Although I've never met him personally, his stance on this issue is in line with his overall record of pure, unmitigated contempt, if not hatred, of the Constitution and of the common citizen.
Retro00064
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Protesting against the shut-down of that file-sharing site is fine, but, in my opinion, carrying out DDoS attacks (which are a crime) against company and goverment websites is NOT a good way to go about it.
First of all, I have seen no confirmation that "Anonymous" was behind this, nor do we even know who "Anonymous" really is. Anybody can call themselves "Anonymous", and even if they've given themselves some token to try to prove their identity to the media, such token (such as a passphrase) could have been and almost certainly would have been redistributed be now, especially by an equally-if-not-more-intelligent attack group.
With that said, whoever this is calling themselves "Anonymous" is essentially run by kids with attitudes, who are more interested in showing off than accomplishing anything. Defacing a website as protest? Nobody cares. If they dig up some dirt on Chris Dodd or Lamar Alexander on the beach with some mystery chickie, that would be more effective. But like petulant Occupy Wall Street kids, they claim to deface a few websites but do absolutely nothing of value. Point and laugh, everyone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369
You can't get much more 'trusted' from a news source then the BBC.
There is a group of hackers that have named themselves "Anonymous" after the character in the movie V for Vendetta They have claimed responsibility for a number of 'large scale' hacks in the last year.
I hate to be the one that ruin Christmas for you, but Anonymous is an actual group of hackers out there, and their current target is the US Government; whether you like it or not.
peter
A legal user of that site has had rights taken away to prevent an illegal user from using it. No actual hackers or illegal uploaders have been stopped. Law abiding citizens HAVE had their rights abused over another's actions beyond their control.
Sorry, limiting my rights because you may violate a law doesn't sit well. To say different lumps me into the same pile as a criminal. Basically, I'm guilty until proven innocent and no way to prove my innocence as I'm restricted without a trial. I just lose rights for what you may do or have done.
The pirates move on. The law abiding suffer for events beyond their control. Can't catch them, we'll punish you.
I don't download copyrighted material. The MPAA still sees no problem with blocking my legal use of the internet. I haven't done wrong but yet they have no problem curtailing my internet access? I find it sweet irony. They deserve a site while saying I don't because someone, other than me, pirated them.
I upload a train game route on Megaupload. Please tell me how it violates their copyright? Please tell me how blocking access to that route constitutes protecting their copyright? It doesn't. Blanket censorship because someone may violate their copyright. All content not relevant is blocked.
That, my friend, is worse than what these hackers have done. I'll take my rights of innocent until proven guilty before blanket censorship to prevent corporate loss. If it means shutting down a government entity, so be it. That entity has taken away my rights they swore an oath to uphold. They used the same laws to get into power they are supposed to protect.
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We could not police it ourselves even if we wanted too... It is way to big... Isnt the theif that holds up the store the same as the faceless theif who stole your identity and credit card information and used ALLLL of your money..... Robbers no longer have to rob banks... They can steal your info online and sell it to china....
Give in and give up your identity then. According to you, it's the only way to combat it. Just surrender and accept the loss.
Sorry, not me. I choose not to be a victim. Anyone's victim.
NSWGR_46Class
Just call my Captain Rude
Just means the all the big server banks will go off shore - if the content is not hosted in the USA it removes it away from the grip of the Govenment.