@Scottbe8: Again, I do thank you for giving me a push in this direction. I only had these signals because they had the "NEC" label. Pretty much since the first time I've tried any signalling in Surveyor, it's been with the JR/ Norfolksouthern's smart signals. They're easy to set up for even a casual route builder. I'll mention things I learn to first share my happiness that I can still learn something, and to show you guys that I appreciate the advice always, and will take any feedback as only positive, and it's never wasted.
The switch in my head finally turned on for these signals. I found a good link last night with history and everything relating to the CPL's. More to the point of the first paragraph, I did a little better search and happened to find this thread, which led me to the links: http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=4171.0
While there are some CPL's still in current use today, they are a dying breed due to maintenance costs with bulbs as opposed to the tri light signal. Most of them are out past Ohio. There is a full working one (capable of displaying all of the aspects) in Baltimore. I forget exactly but they're also in a rail museum. That is not a copy and paste, I now know that much. I'm also understanding aspects a little better. When I mentioned understanding RYG signals, I meant traffic signals. 100% of the times I've been on a train, it's been as a passenger. Learning about aspects has helped me understand even more how nice the JR smart signals are. I don't talk much of the weeks I lost trying to reset signals because the 08 interlocking signals kept flashing
. I also understand why there are so many versions of an "NEC rule" type signals. That's because, well, there are so many rules . I hope y'all are still with me. What I understand is there is a use for each one. Smart signals are plug and go, which is so nice. After reading, I'm going to try to use CPL's (Seniorchief has 2 different versions. I'm using the ones like the pictures I've been seeing). I like the way they give information. I really wanted to make a decision on signals before moving forward, now I have.
After reading about the TS12 version of AJS junctions, it finally gave me my second reason to get "12". First reason was the TPR NEC of course. I'd rather just split the money between these 2 creators, but that's in my perfect world. When I do get it, I'll still keep this in it's format. I've been reading these forums long enough to backup anything six ways to Sunday. In the meantime I've also went back to the layout I first did (the one through Hamilton New jersey and beyond) with the previous version of Andi's junctions. I had no problems with them personally, everything runs just fine all the way through Hamilton. I got caught up in the posts about the problems OTHERS have had, and it ran me away from them. I also did not trust that I had them installed to anyone else's but my own standards. I understand how track spacing is now, and can recheck as I go along. Add to that what I'm learning about scenery and operations, this can now move along faster.
This post was mostly to show I appreciate any advice given, and to show while I still feel the term "protoypical" is more still just a term, it's a term I respect, and appreciate how much work you guys put into the content you make and the fantastic pictures you show.
I do all of my talking here because I would never never create a separate thread when I know I already have this one. I keep to the theme by usually having pictures. I've been reading these forums long enough to know what happens anyway when someone has multiple threads. I know it's frowned upon in a screenshot thread to talk so much, but I'd rather do it here than have multiple threads about nothing. Thank you all for your patience. The next update should be more complete than anything so far. Things are coming together at the same time for me. Thanks as always.
The switch in my head finally turned on for these signals. I found a good link last night with history and everything relating to the CPL's. More to the point of the first paragraph, I did a little better search and happened to find this thread, which led me to the links: http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=4171.0
While there are some CPL's still in current use today, they are a dying breed due to maintenance costs with bulbs as opposed to the tri light signal. Most of them are out past Ohio. There is a full working one (capable of displaying all of the aspects) in Baltimore. I forget exactly but they're also in a rail museum. That is not a copy and paste, I now know that much. I'm also understanding aspects a little better. When I mentioned understanding RYG signals, I meant traffic signals. 100% of the times I've been on a train, it's been as a passenger. Learning about aspects has helped me understand even more how nice the JR smart signals are. I don't talk much of the weeks I lost trying to reset signals because the 08 interlocking signals kept flashing
. I also understand why there are so many versions of an "NEC rule" type signals. That's because, well, there are so many rules . I hope y'all are still with me. What I understand is there is a use for each one. Smart signals are plug and go, which is so nice. After reading, I'm going to try to use CPL's (Seniorchief has 2 different versions. I'm using the ones like the pictures I've been seeing). I like the way they give information. I really wanted to make a decision on signals before moving forward, now I have.After reading about the TS12 version of AJS junctions, it finally gave me my second reason to get "12". First reason was the TPR NEC of course
. I'd rather just split the money between these 2 creators, but that's in my perfect world. When I do get it, I'll still keep this in it's format. I've been reading these forums long enough to backup anything six ways to Sunday. In the meantime I've also went back to the layout I first did (the one through Hamilton New jersey and beyond) with the previous version of Andi's junctions. I had no problems with them personally, everything runs just fine all the way through Hamilton. I got caught up in the posts about the problems OTHERS have had, and it ran me away from them. I also did not trust that I had them installed to anyone else's but my own standards. I understand how track spacing is now, and can recheck as I go along. Add to that what I'm learning about scenery and operations, this can now move along faster.This post was mostly to show I appreciate any advice given, and to show while I still feel the term "protoypical" is more still just a term, it's a term I respect, and appreciate how much work you guys put into the content you make and the fantastic pictures you show.
I do all of my talking here because I would never never create a separate thread when I know I already have this one. I keep to the theme by usually having pictures. I've been reading these forums long enough to know what happens anyway when someone has multiple threads. I know it's frowned upon in a screenshot thread to talk so much, but I'd rather do it here than have multiple threads about nothing. Thank you all for your patience. The next update should be more complete than anything so far. Things are coming together at the same time for me. Thanks as always.
