Opinions on this PC spec please

itareus

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2nd Hard Disk will be used for Trainz...

Case COOLERMASTER ELITE 310 BLUE CASE
Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-3770K (3.5GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard ASUS® P8Z77-V LX: USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI®CrossFireX
Memory (RAM) 8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 680 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
1st Hard Disk 2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
2nd Hard Disk 500GB VELOCIRAPTOR WD5000HHTZ, SATA 6-Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (10,000rpm)
RAID NONE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Memory Card Reader INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX650 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£69)
Processor Cooling SUPER QUIET 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEATPIPE INTEL CPU COOLER (£19)
Fan Controller NONE
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options 2 PORT USB 3.0 INTERNAL PCI-EX CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
Price £1,430.00
Maximum Required Power 469W

Supplier http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/

Thanks

Chris
 
1.21 Gigawatts ... Why the only thing with with that much power, is a bolt of lightning ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5cYgRnfFDA

I paid $1300 for a HP desktop way back in 2007 ... this PC has me::mop::udrool::mop:But then again I just came from the dentist, and got novocane, and my lower lip is a saggin', and cawfee keeps runnin' out ... people are calling me "SlackJaw" <---What a cool Handle
 
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Power supply might be a problem. I can't find a ranking for the Corsair Enthusiast series, but it would be cutting things awfully close even if you had a high-tier power supply. Since that cannot be assumed, go with a bigger PSU.

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

Edit: A quick calculation shows that system may draw as much as 562W under load, which is easily possible with Trainz.

2nd Edit: Oh, also, be sure the +12v rail can deliver at least 40 amps.
 
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I'd personally go with a 750 or 800 watt Antec power supply and swap the raptor for an SSD, currently a 240GB SSD from my supplier is cheaper than a 500GB Raptor and prices seem to reducing rapidly, checking the mobo specs, there are only 2 Sata3 ports and 4 Sata2 kind of limits choice of HD expansion a bit, mind you with a 2TB drive that might not be a concern in this case.
 
So what 's the question here? I think that you havnt came here to ask or to get opinions about your PC Specs. You have come here to show us that u have a superPC, im not going to say that of "bring back the PC to the NASA" and those other stupid phrases. What problem are you going to have with that monster of PC?? I am very happy with my old Athlon II X2 64 Dual Core Processor 3,1 Ghz and my old Geforce 8600 GTS with only 256 mb, my old 450W power supply and my old (now dead) Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB HDD, now replaced by a Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200
Just saying :D

Greetings
 
Thanks to those who have made comments on the PSU, RAM & HDD.

I have the following options available:

Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX750 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE + £17
CORSAIR 850W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX850 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE + £30

Memory (RAM)
16GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (4 X 4GB) + £27
16GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 8GB) + £89
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT) + £48
16GB KINGSTON HYPERX GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 2133MHz X.M.P(4 x 4GB KIT) + £48

2nd HDD
I've checked this and from this PC maker a 240GB SDD would increase the price by around £40, but I'm not sure if 240GB
would be big enough as my Trainz installation is already large and asset file sizes (especially textures) are getting
larger all the time. A 480GB SSD would do the trick but would blow the budget !

Further comments welcome...

Chris
 
If this is only for Trainz you do not need 16GB, Trainz can only use 4GB max. I'm looking at updating my computer with the same MB but with the i5 as Trainz will not benefit much from a i7.
 
Whitepass is correct. i5 is plenty. If you still want to buy that machine:

Get the 850W, it's worth the extra. Stick with the original 8Gb of memory, since Trainz won't even use that much.

A 240Gb SSD should be plenty. I have TWO massive Trainz installations total about 170Gb, and I have 3 others which all together I think is about 240Gb. I'm not saying it's not possible to push the limits of or even exceed the SSD capacity, but that's pretty hard to do. With a little maintenance and pruning, I think you can easily fit a Trainz installation into 240Gb with the OS and room to spare. Remember, just keep Trainz itself on the SSD; keep any CDP files, backups, etc. on the main hard disk since those are not speed-critical.

Also, check to see if the SSD will be the operating system drive.; they list is as a "second" drive which, if true, means you won't be getting the most benefit from an SSD. Also, some SSDs are better than others, especially for Trainz. The Kingston 830, Crucial m4, and the Plextor m3 Pro represent some of the best in the market right now, and can be had for about the same price as their slower counterparts. It may end up working out easier or cheaper, depending on what your PC vendor offers, to buy an SSD and install it yourself, as long as you have a Windows installation disc.
 
Thanks guys, I appreciate the advice.

Maybe I should have said that the new PC will have to last for many years so I'm trying to make it as ' future proof ' as possible, which in modern terms probably means a couple of months if I'm lucky !

My opinion is "I wish I could afford it"!

I wish I could Ed, I had to sell the wife 10 years ago to buy my last PC :hehe:.

Chris
 
Thanks guys, I appreciate the advice.

Maybe I should have said that the new PC will have to last for many years so I'm trying to make it as ' future proof ' as possible, which in modern terms probably means a couple of months if I'm lucky !



I wish I could Ed, I had to sell the wife 10 years ago to buy my last PC :hehe:.

Chris

Don't bother, aim for something more mainstream going expensive top end components doesn't get you that much further. In general at the top end doubling the price gets you 5-10% more performance and I suspect you're at the top end.

You're UK based so watch the price of electricity. For a machine that's on 24/7 it can cost more than the capital cost over three years. I'd probably go 240 gig SSD, then choose for reliability so Intel i5, 6 or 8 gigs of memory depending on the motherboard either Intel or ASUS, power supply as efficient as as I could get, but a decent brand 500 watts gets you a long way these days. A second hard drive, 750 gig 5400 western digital, Radeon HD 7770 has quite respectable performance and the TDP is nice and low, http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-3.html. An APC surge protector, and an external USB hard drive for back up, say 1 or 2 gigs.

I think the major problem is finding a sensible supplier. In the US there is Newegg but the UK I might look at www.Ebuyer.com. Putting the components together yourself isn't that difficult.

Cheerio John
 
my bog-standard Zoostorm PC (Bought online), running windows 7 HP seems up enough happy running trainz 2009, although I'm also using *G-boost gaming software to help stop the shuddering and sticky graphics
 
A quick look at e-buyer, mobo-£71, I5 2500k-£175, coolermaster centurion case inc 650 w psu-£91, ATI 7870-£250, 8gb ripjaws ram-£40, 240 gb ssd-£140, 1TB hd £70. total £837.
Throw £100 on top for the bits I've missed and you've saved £500 and got a decent bit of kit.
I forgot Win 7, a retail version of home premium £121.
 
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