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... and been approved!
Can be found here http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=100623 it's been downloaded 76 times already!
Any feedback appreciated, and will be incorporated in a version2, to be uploaded when I've actually done Part2!
So its now on to making Part2, which will be eastwards from here, to incorporate Midland Station - and the ex-GC routes. Can't yet decide how to do those to fit in with the timescale (mid70s - early 80s) totally derelict (as they really were), disused & overgrown, or still in working order... Any suggestions?
Can be found here http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=100623 it's been downloaded 76 times already!
Any feedback appreciated, and will be incorporated in a version2, to be uploaded when I've actually done Part2!
So its now on to making Part2, which will be eastwards from here, to incorporate Midland Station - and the ex-GC routes. Can't yet decide how to do those to fit in with the timescale (mid70s - early 80s) totally derelict (as they really were), disused & overgrown, or still in working order... Any suggestions?
It would be interesting to see it as was rather than derelict, but then I've only got TRS2004 running at the moment.
Thanks for the credit BTW. Well done on the work you've put into it. I'm looking for a little advice on adding gradients to a DEM route. At the moment it's looking like a roller coaster ride.
Cheers, Dave
Thanks for the credit BTW. Well done on the work you've put into it. I'm looking for a little advice on adding gradients to a DEM route. At the moment it's looking like a roller coaster ride.
Cheers, Dave
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Well David
Congratulations on getting it onto the dls and thanks for the credit !
Only error I can see at the present time is that the dust circle at Ratcliffe never joined with the coal circle they were always 2 seperate lines. also the coal discharge point at Ratcliffe consisted of lines A+B with only 2 lines and one discharge bunker with a track either side of a tappers cabin which had mirrors on either side to view the off side of the wagons after discharge, it was possible to get 4x42 mgr trains on the arrival lines A+B,
with an x crossover between train 1 on line A and train 2 on line A.
This meant that a train arriving on line A behind the first train on line A could always be discharged on line B (this was executed from the control tower within the power station depending on which colliery the coal had come from)
I now have in my possesion numerous books detailing the lines in andaround Nottingham and the Erewash valley including all G.N. signalbox diagrams and most station plans , might i suggest if you did leave the G.C. line in over Nottingham station it would be feasible to when you do the bit south of Ratcliffe power station to link up the G.C. wth the Midland at Loughborough via the chord line at Loughborough.
Any help required give us a shout and i will see if i can help you?
Dave (Escafeld do i take your comment re DEM route to mean my pet project?)
Congratulations on getting it onto the dls and thanks for the credit !
Only error I can see at the present time is that the dust circle at Ratcliffe never joined with the coal circle they were always 2 seperate lines. also the coal discharge point at Ratcliffe consisted of lines A+B with only 2 lines and one discharge bunker with a track either side of a tappers cabin which had mirrors on either side to view the off side of the wagons after discharge, it was possible to get 4x42 mgr trains on the arrival lines A+B,
with an x crossover between train 1 on line A and train 2 on line A.
This meant that a train arriving on line A behind the first train on line A could always be discharged on line B (this was executed from the control tower within the power station depending on which colliery the coal had come from)
I now have in my possesion numerous books detailing the lines in andaround Nottingham and the Erewash valley including all G.N. signalbox diagrams and most station plans , might i suggest if you did leave the G.C. line in over Nottingham station it would be feasible to when you do the bit south of Ratcliffe power station to link up the G.C. wth the Midland at Loughborough via the chord line at Loughborough.
Any help required give us a shout and i will see if i can help you?
Dave (Escafeld do i take your comment re DEM route to mean my pet project?)
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Thanks Steviez! Any chance of a diagram of the PowerStation layout (hand drawn will do!) for an update for V2?
I have no intention of going south to Loughborough! I've set myself enough of a challenge just to fill the area on the map!
I think for GC lines in Nottingham, I'll do the route as it may have appeared in 1980 if it hadn't been "Beeching butchered" - or maybe even a version 1.1 (with) and 1.2 (without)...
I have no intention of going south to Loughborough! I've set myself enough of a challenge just to fill the area on the map!
I think for GC lines in Nottingham, I'll do the route as it may have appeared in 1980 if it hadn't been "Beeching butchered" - or maybe even a version 1.1 (with) and 1.2 (without)...
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Congrats for getting your layout on the DLS. It's nice to see regional layouts out and about, I'm sure Steviez and Escafeld have helped you with info as they've done with me.
Greg
Greg
I'm needing your help sooner than I thought, Steviez!
What's the layout of Lenton West Junction and the Wilford Power Station lines?
This is what I've got so far, taken direct from the OS 1:25000 map. I guess that by the date of the map the rail connection was partly lifted...
The straight, slightly squint lines are tracks laid to the OS 1km gridlines...
What's the layout of Lenton West Junction and the Wilford Power Station lines?
This is what I've got so far, taken direct from the OS 1:25000 map. I guess that by the date of the map the rail connection was partly lifted...
The straight, slightly squint lines are tracks laid to the OS 1km gridlines...
Thanks Steviez, Lenton South Jct is laid, and I'm now onto the large yards in front of the Castle. Are you able to help with the real names of the various parts of that maze of sidings?
Another couple of requests...
1) Dave Escafeld, in the previous forum we were discussing the GC viaducts over Broadmarsh and Canal Street. You posted a screenshot of a model of the Canal Street girder bridge. What was it? was it Tafwebs Girder_Bridge_2t ? I have that and it's "single-ended" ie. it has sloping girders on one end only, the other has a vertical end. Tried laying 2 halves from each end but one swaps round... Do you know another 2 track girder bridge?
2) Can anybody please let me have some reasonable photos of Nottingham Midland Station buildings exterior? I'm going to have to get into gmax and make a model of it. It doesn't need to be detailed as it's only seen from the cab of a train as it goes under Carrington Street bridge, so it'll just be simple boxes, but I'll need some photos as textures to overlay onto the sides of the boxes. If anybody can help I'd be very grateful...
Another couple of requests...
1) Dave Escafeld, in the previous forum we were discussing the GC viaducts over Broadmarsh and Canal Street. You posted a screenshot of a model of the Canal Street girder bridge. What was it? was it Tafwebs Girder_Bridge_2t ? I have that and it's "single-ended" ie. it has sloping girders on one end only, the other has a vertical end. Tried laying 2 halves from each end but one swaps round... Do you know another 2 track girder bridge?
2) Can anybody please let me have some reasonable photos of Nottingham Midland Station buildings exterior? I'm going to have to get into gmax and make a model of it. It doesn't need to be detailed as it's only seen from the cab of a train as it goes under Carrington Street bridge, so it'll just be simple boxes, but I'll need some photos as textures to overlay onto the sides of the boxes. If anybody can help I'd be very grateful...
These are links to the bridge in question with the Kuid number. Glad to be of help David.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/escafeld01/Bridge02.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/escafeld01/CanalStreet.jpg
Edit: I'm not sure about the foreshortened name of the street in the second link LOL.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/escafeld01/Bridge02.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/escafeld01/CanalStreet.jpg
Edit: I'm not sure about the foreshortened name of the street in the second link LOL.
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That's the one, Dave. It doesn't have either "girder" or "bridge" in the name...
Would THIS be any use?...
Yes that would be some use! What is it?
I see that you've got the blue brick of the "Plate Girder Bridge" in the screenshot. I've just tried re-skinning the MB_brick_viaduct into blue brick, by copying the image from the plate bridge and pasting into the viaduct. The size of the brickwork changes OK, but the colour is totally mis-matched. Any idea why?
The Hog Backed bridge is "2gl-bogenbr" by Gerd - he also does a Box section bridge which (paired with this one ) would be a good match for the GCR bridge.What I"ve actually done here is use two Bogenbrs and set them to the same height then shift one over to one side, thus doubling the density of the lattice.As for the blue brick viaduct its another of my fiendish tricks...
..I got several "Plate Girder Bridges" and overlapped each one on the other so that the Abutment of one "blotted out" the Girder of the next ,if you see what I mean.Doing this you can make up any length of viaduct, but you"ll probably go crazy as its finicky adjusting them but it gets easier with practice!I hardly ever use pre built bridges, as this way is much more flexible...
..I got several "Plate Girder Bridges" and overlapped each one on the other so that the Abutment of one "blotted out" the Girder of the next ,if you see what I mean.Doing this you can make up any length of viaduct, but you"ll probably go crazy as its finicky adjusting them but it gets easier with practice!I hardly ever use pre built bridges, as this way is much more flexible...Well, I can't promise anything, but I am going to Nottingham in the morning, albeit on a bus, so if I go near the station I'll take some photos for you. I don't know my way around Nottingham all that well, so there's a chance I might not be near the station. Not sure my wife would appreciate a long detour either
I would have a look at geograph.org.uk and do a search for grid reference SK5739
If you find a suitable image or images you can always contact the photographer and ask if he would be willing to send you a larger copy. All photos in geograph are 640 x 480
You could also 'Google' Nottingham Midland and see what that comes up with. Don't forget to click-on 'images' in the preferences at the top.
edit - Yep, there are some, I've just looked.
Thanks to all!
I'll search for the bridges later, Lewisner, but they look to be exactly what we need. As for the viaduct, I'll stick with the arches, as I find the plate girder bridges to be quite heavy on memory, my fps drops when just one is in the field of view, so I don't want to think what will happen with several!
Stallion, many thanks for the offer of photos. No hurry for them as I've got to learn gmax first...
Dave E, I've tried google images, but I only get angled pictures, ie from one corner. What I really need is a series of overlapping pictures taken from the west side of Carrington St bridge... I'll check out your other reference shortly. Thanks
I'll search for the bridges later, Lewisner, but they look to be exactly what we need. As for the viaduct, I'll stick with the arches, as I find the plate girder bridges to be quite heavy on memory, my fps drops when just one is in the field of view, so I don't want to think what will happen with several!
Stallion, many thanks for the offer of photos. No hurry for them as I've got to learn gmax first...
Dave E, I've tried google images, but I only get angled pictures, ie from one corner. What I really need is a series of overlapping pictures taken from the west side of Carrington St bridge... I'll check out your other reference shortly. Thanks
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Heres an improved version of the viaduct.I looked in CMP for "gerd" and all his bridges are under "1gl" or "2gl".The box section girder is "2gl-Vorflutbr" and as before I"ve installed 2 and moved one to the left to make a Double Lattice, which looks pretty good I think...
