Mk2F coaches

Would that be Ernest Marples?
"In tune with the mood of the early 1960s, the transport minister in Harold Macmillan's Conservative government was Ernest Marples, director of a road-construction company .... Marples believed the future of transport lay with roads, that railways were a relic of the Victorian past." ['Beeching Axe' Wiki entry]

Beelzebub indeed! :hehe:
 
Well I use trs 2004, I dare not use anything above.. as 04 is jumpyish.. :confused:
- As for content creations.. betwenn 04/06/TC - is it only scripts that causing the tention between which versions they can be accesed? Or does TC have major differences in different areas? :o
 
Well I use trs 2004, I dare not use anything above.. as 04 is jumpyish.. :confused:
- As for content creations.. betwenn 04/06/TC - is it only scripts that causing the tention between which versions they can be accesed? Or does TC have major differences in different areas? :o

Basically TRS2004 SP4 has most of the major features. In general TRS2006 and TC are later code that runs a little faster and have better script support. There are some useful additions in TC3 if you have a look at the TC3 page such as being able to switch the passenger set to a more appropriate one. If you can run TRS2004 then TC will run the same layout / rolling stock a little faster.

Personally I've found that creating in TC is easier for me and that there seem to be less undocumented features in TC. Translation my TRS2004 beta testers find that not everything works 100% of the time in TRS2004 but it seems to be solid in TC.

The other benefit is that TC does much better content checking than TRS2004. This means that Trainz doesn't have to guess at what the content creator was trying to do. It also means that TC performs better since it isn't making assumptions about what it should be doing.

So probably to the average end user TC is more about a little more speed and reliability than anything else. It has fewer bugs. More importantly any content that is on the DLS under TC has been through much more stringent error checking to give you the end user a higher quality product.

Cheerio John
 
Would that be Ernest Marples?
:hehe:
Isn't it strange that Marples Ridgway got the contract to build the M1 motorway?? No wonder Marples wanted to get rid of as much railway as he could. Believe me, George Bush and Dick Cheney are nothing new....
Mick Berg.
PS Sorry, I've gone way off topic.....
 
Just because you believe in some unknown unprovable entity, does not mean the rest of us have to.

I don't regard this forum as being the correct place for you to push your religion or religious beliefs in my face.

I'd argue that it is a very much known identity, unprovable maybe but that is hardly the point.

Anyhow I don't say you have to believe, nor am I pushing it on you but I ask for a little respect for my beliefs, such as I would grant you. This is not being high and mighty, just being respectful as is generally accepted as the norm in human interaction. Of course if you don't believe in God why use his name at all? Why not any other name or word that would cause less offence to those who do believe in such an entity. Also I don't regard this forum as the correct place for you to push your atheism and atheistic views in my face. I had half a mind to report your post as I find it out of place (I am probably stepping all over the CoC right now) but also offensive and thought I ought to offer some explanation.

Andy
 
Basically TRS2004 SP4 has most of the major features. In general TRS2006 and TC are later code that runs a little faster and have better script support. There are some useful additions in TC3 if you have a look at the TC3 page such as being able to switch the passenger set to a more appropriate one. If you can run TRS2004 then TC will run the same layout / rolling stock a little faster.

Personally I've found that creating in TC is easier for me and that there seem to be less undocumented features in TC. Translation my TRS2004 beta testers find that not everything works 100% of the time in TRS2004 but it seems to be solid in TC.

The other benefit is that TC does much better content checking than TRS2004. This means that Trainz doesn't have to guess at what the content creator was trying to do. It also means that TC performs better since it isn't making assumptions about what it should be doing.

So probably to the average end user TC is more about a little more speed and reliability than anything else. It has fewer bugs. More importantly any content that is on the DLS under TC has been through much more stringent error checking to give you the end user a higher quality product.

Cheerio John

Many thanks for that easy to digest post for us old devils, who aren't as technically minded in the Trainz know-how as others John......However, this still refers back to the old problem that with TC3 using CMP, that one has to manually edit config.txts for hundreds of old assets for them to work properly, many trainzers are not going to be able to operate TRS2004 stuff in TC3. I appreciate that TC3 will have built-in assets that are brand new, such as locomotives and coaching stock, and as such shouldn't have any config.txt issues whatsoever, but, may I honestly suggest that what is offered may not be enough, and many of us may wish to transfer other older content from TRS04 into TC3 to enhance playability, but will object strongly to the stringent CMP checks, and the moans will start all over again regarding the amount of time taken up having to amend items to make them work properly. It has been suggested before that all assets on offer now must be CMP compliant, but many, many trainzers aren't going to wait for TRS2004 assets to be upgraded, if they ever will be, into CMP trouble-free status, and creators aren't willing to fix the issues that occur with TRS2004, because CMP has caught a lot of the errors.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman
 
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Secondly that assumes that creators create to get a high download count. Personally I will create for whichever version of TRS gives the features I want. I could create my 60 for UTC say but then again I would lose a load of features. So I've created it for 04 and 06 (06 doesn't give any extra features in this respect that 04 does not). If TC has features that I can make use of I will barely hesitate to create for that instead.

I agree with you, but it is only useful if you use the features that TC/TRS2004/UTC gives. Why bother creating for a version that had all the features and so does the version below?

And yes, I too have scummbled to the demands of 04/06 content requirement brought on by persons unknown, in which case, I proposed a simpler solution (just so I have an argumentative free and happy life!).

Create 2 versions, one that works with TC and one that works with TRS, upload them separately and everyone is hopefully happy. You could have 3 versions if you want, one for UTC/SP3, one for TRS and one for TC, yet saving more arguments, but arguably, it is a waste of time.

Personally I create for the joy of creating..... However, I don't create just so that lots of people will use my content.

I do wish people would stop telling creators which version to create for. That is an individual choice that we are free to make, especially considering the time that goes into any such creations to produce a high quality end product that is up to current expectations.

I agree with both statements, I am saying exactly what I said for the second point, but for the first point, most CC, don't create for money or competition, but for pleasure and fun, thats how it should be, thats how we should keep it. Some like to exercise the power they have and use it to a (dis)advantage. For them, yes, but for us, no.


Besides, if we were creating for a commercial venture, then there would be all sorts of assessments involved, surveys, studies etc.



As for politics and religion, please.... just don't go there, lets stop that before the thread gets locked completely.


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betwenn 04/06/TC - is it only scripts that causing the tention between which versions they can be accesed? Or does TC have major differences in different areas? :o
Yes, in part, but rolling stock also suffer from a difference in the bogie table, where it is laid out in a mesh table, rather than tags. Its reversible and has been done to my stock already.
 
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oh stuff right off, you don't know me you bigoted old bully. leave me alone and get on with your squalid little life.
 
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I don't stuffing care right now ok, I'm on drugs that are throwing my moods all over the place, I have no control over my emotions and then this arrogant bigot tells me that I know nothing. I don't need it and he needs to know where to put his bigoted, bullying little personality rather than picking on people here.
 
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I don't stuffing care right now ok, I'm on drugs that are throwing my moods all over the place, I have no control over my emotions and then this arrogant bigot tells me that I know nothing. I don't need it and he needs to know where to put his bigoted, bullying little personality rather than picking on people here.

IK definitely has mood swings as well.

Generally speaking religion is best kept out of the forums. It isn't an easy subject, my personal view is there have been too many wars and too many people have died because my god is right and yours is wrong.

Cheerio John
 
You two are making assumption and a rather pessimistic one. If you think someone like Rob is about to produce rolling stock for TC only you must have cotton in your ears and your eyes in your pockets.Clearly you didn't listen; you're fired! God, anyone creating for TC only can only expect 50 downloads or so... Shooting one's self in the foot and a waste of time. Now if one is asked for comissioned work then why should the creator care?

Was this a call to any particular God or have you been reading Terry Pratchett again?

Cheerio John
 
Captain_Scarlet not sure what you are getting at - never said Rob wasn't going to create only for TC, wasn't making a comment about Rob at all in fact. As a result I am somewhat confused as to what you are getting at, if it helps I got somewhat annoyed at this remark by you:
You were answering my comments about Rob's TC content. You were saying you were annoyed at forum dwellers that preach to creator about what version their content should be creator for.
While I do laugh at creators who would create solely for TC as they'd get minimal exposure I did point out that if one is working one commission the version has no importance as the work is done for a client with specific requirements.
 
Well, Been working on a new build of MK2 coaches in quietly for a while now. Main reason being I wasn't happy with my first offerings.

MK2-TSO64-01.jpg


The above is a MK2 TSO 64 seats. Planning to go through the entire range of coaches version order. Still need to map out a fair few bits n bobs on the coaches, and as such the textures are not final.

Rob
 
Those Mark Two's look great, Rob. Looking forward to seeing (and running) the finished article.

With regards to Religion and Politics.

There are plenty of other Forums and Blogsites where these subjects are discussed, I indulge myself frequently, in fact I even write a Political Column.

I did not, and do not, expect to find these subjects causing heated discussions on Trainz.

Please Desist! :(
 
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