maximum number of base boards?

[nugget2225]

is it possible to build a 1,000 miles route? i have a route planned out from orlando florida to Indianapolis Indiana's Union station,before i attempt it, can someone tell me the maximum length i can actually go? i realize it would be about a 5 year undertaking, but i now don't have to work anymore due a possible terminal illness and i have alot of free time to spend, between 8-12 a day i am looking to work on it. If thats not possible i also considered a 500 mile route in between. thanks for any replies, my hardware runs extremely well on tane and rogers pass is smooth as butter.

 

[HiBaller]

You're a braver man that I, Nugget. Over 15 of us took 3.5 years to create the Darjeeling Himalayan Railway and it is only 57 miles long. Good luck to you.

Bill

 

[MTH_ELECTRIC_TRAINS]

I don't think there is a limit, is there? I would ask N3V on that to be honest.

 

[nugget2225]

well i figured if i worked on it for 5-7 years, 10-12 hours a day, it'a something free for me to give back to the community for free.i have liver and kidney problems and hope i can finish it before i die, most of the route will be real from orlando to indianapolis, with the final stop in my home town of lebanon indiana, there is a sign still up where the railroad use to be when president lincoln came through in 1862

 

[blueodessey]

May God be with you on your Journey, you are very brave for what you face ahead!

I did a Google Search and these 2 links I think will give you a fair overview on Size and other contributing factors for Size Limits.........

https://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?115355-Route-size-limits/page2

https://forums.auran.com/trainz/archive/index.php/t-110213.html

 

[mjolnir]

There is no fixed limit on route size built into Trainz (in any version, as far as I know). Any limitation on route size will be the amount of memory in the machine that is to host the route. It will require a lot of memory to host a 1000 baseboard machine, likely more memory than the design limits of a PC or MAC. But, railroads in the US usually operate differently: a crew operates a train for about 100 miles from the crew change point at which they board, and take over the train, and the crew change point at which they disembark, and turn the train over to someone else. So if it were me, I'd build your 1000 mile route as ten 100 mile routes so a user would download the first one and start in Orlando, run a train over that route, then download the next route, and run the train over that one.

Each Trainz baseboard is 720 x 720 meters, so there are about one tow and a half baseboards per mile of tangent route. For a linear route, I favor about 4 baseboards in width, that is, about two baseboards out from the center line of the route. Using these figures, a 100 nuke route would need about 1000 boards, 10 boards per mile.

ns

 

[H222]

A limit on baseboards doesn't exist so much as a limit on resources. I have a route with 200 baseboards that Trainz doesn't like loading as much as it does a DEM of a 250 mile route. (Several yards like this is why it doesn't like opening a 200 baseboard route)

A supercomputer will help

As for your condition well, I am sorry to hear that. I'd be putting my faith in science over a god. We've doubled our lifespan in the last century, and new cures are around the corner every day. There may be some hope. Irregardless, I hope you enjoy the rest of your mortal days: and if you're playing Trainz, that'll hopefully be fulfilled.

Jamie

 

[ish6]

I have a route with 200 baseboards that Trainz doesn't like loading as much as it does a DEM of a 250 mile route. (Several yards like this is why it doesn't like opening a 200 baseboard route)

Jamie

Hi Jamiel --

Wow, that's big!

Take Care
Ish

 

[oknotsen]

I wonder if you can import a DEM that big into Trainz to begin with. If you manually have to landscape that area 5 years will not be enough, maybe not even 50.

I would not be surprised that the new way of storing / handling routes by Trainz, starting TANE SP2, will make it easier for to handle large routes like that. If so and the new version will indeed support working on a route at the same time by multiple people, this project might make a chance.
I mean: I like your mindset of "just" working 8-10 hours per day on this for 5 years in a row, but I wonder if you would not go insane halfway (a person can only plant so many trees) or get delayed by "life" (like maintenance to your house / family / friends / car / bank balance).

 

[MTH_ELECTRIC_TRAINS]

I can say I would probably go nuts after a while building such a long route. Approach Medium is building the Pennsylvania and Berwind, but in 2 parts that can be merged together after completion. I too want to start building routes but mostly smaller ones to start off with. Something along the lines of small switching routes so I can get the hang of building my own route and then start moving on to larger ones in the future.

 

[nugget2225]

this is gonna be an end to end route with freight and passenger's. i know amtrak doesn't have passenger stations between orlando florida and indianapolis indiana, i am gonna add a 3rd rail fictional for passengers. i watched a tutorial on sessions building, no wonder not many sessions are created for these payware routes, it looks complicated, but that may just be me. when i do get the route done. i plan on having 10-15 sessions for the route. i have layed about 400 base boards so far,i am measuring with the ruler tool to go the complete 1,020 miles, i will see you guys in 5 years lol. i have created a small route of about 75 miles years ago and it took me a year and a half. that was with trainz 2009, i abandoned the route when trainz 12 and tane came out because of so many faulty and messed up assets. i plan on keeping this one up and to be one of my largest accomplishments in computing. i just turned 40 this past june, and i am in the prime of my life to take on this long undertaking. thanks for the links.

 

[Vern]

Sounds far too ambitious, sorry to say. It recently took me three months to do a 70 mile route which was largely trees and painted terrain, with a few small settlements. At the end I had to cull a large number of trees and replace them with old billboard type as the camera became almost impossible to move. Saving the route could take two minutes or more, that's if it didn't fall over with lack of memory.

Then there's the health issue. All that time in close focus looking at Surveyor is not likely to do your eyesight any good either. I have had to severely curtail my time doing much of late having developed a particularly nasty dry/sore eye condition on my right eye which I'm still waiting for the doctor to properly diagnose (rather than just putting drops in four times a day for the rest of my life). I blame that squarely on the accumulated effect building routes in these sims over the past several years. Not stopping totally but certainly don't feel the time that would be required to build a long route is worth not having much eyesight left in later life.

 

[TINE]

Which path do you plan to take?

You have two choices, passenger rail or strac net.


According to the FRA, amtrak DOES have a rail that can go that route, its the red track with yellow highlight below.
Or they have it listed as amtrak usable.
Passenger Rail goes thru charleston

And stracnet goes thru nashville

DEM data can eaisly be had for this route, and with the shape file that you choose from the two routes, you can use transdem with the dem files and the shape file of your route and create what you want in a few weeks(at least the track laid, and the landscape with all baseboards done) at that point you will need to fill objects in,
with the shape files you get your track laid for you, but you need to do some tweaks still.

Do you have TransDEM?

 

[nugget2225]

i decided to do it in 200 mile sections and depending on the outcome, merge the 5 sections when i am done or just leave it as 5 sections, i am wanting to make it passenger as well as freight, i decided to start in indianapolis and take amtrak to washington dc, then take the line south through north carolina, through columbia south carolina , through jacksonville florida, through orlando and end in tampa where the line ends, i am trying to find the resources to make sure freight also goes this way and use transdem to get the track laid correctly. i have been building routes since 2006 and this will be my first public route when i am done.if anyone can suggest good resources to put templates over the baseboards, i would appreciate it, once i start something, i don't stop until its done. as far as resources, i am using a 1080ti with 11gb of vram along with 32gb of system ram matched with a ryzen 1800x at 4.1 ghz, tane runs extremely well on ryzen, i am gonna jump back on intel next year when there first maistream 8 core comes out that clocks at 4.4-4.8ghz.

 

[llebrez]

You'll have to factor another inconvenience: 5-10 years from now, half of the assets you use today may be obsolete or "faulty", so to use this route you will have to stick with TANE. By then another super version may be available. Maybe fatalistic, but I base this on my experiences. Sure you can repair and modify assets, but it adds more work to the whole thing. Some people enjoy the hobby by building and others by driving. Consider that you build a route for you or someone else to enjoy driving it. Fantastically speaking I built to drive while in this world, and hopefully live in my created world the day I die. Just thoughts... So, live long, prosper and fight for life. And of course build your route as much as you can!

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

There is one size limit that I know of - the maximum of 512 MB for any asset uploaded to the Trainz Download Station. I don't know how many baseboards or kilometres of textured route that buys you, but it's something to be aware of if you intend to share the layout via the DLS.

 

[Vern]

I thought that limit had increased, but I may be wrong. In any event, a route built in TANE to modern standards and with a reasonable number of tiles either side of the line to generate distant terrain is quickly going to exceed that. I'd have to check by unpacking but I'm fairly certain my 70 mile Kovdor route was clocking in excess off 200Mb and that was after a massive prune of boards/tiles and downgrading trees to lesser quality ones.

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

I thought that limit had increased...

Maybe ages ago it was less than this, but the current upload limit per asset is 512 MB according to the "Your Content" web page;

File format: .cdp or .cdp2 (compiled with Content Dispatcher, Content Manager or TrainzUtil)
Maximum Filesize: 512 MB

 

[Vern]

Roger that, Dinorius!

Just checked, the last cdp backup of my Kovdor route was just over 200Mb so that was, as stated, for around 70 miles. The OP has no chance of getting his over ambitious route on the DLS, unless of course it is so good he can do a deal with N3V and sell the rights to use as default content, in about TRS2028!

 

[amrail2000]

I have to agree that the size of depends on your machine. I have CSX A & S line (Jacksonvile & Florence divisions) from Jacksonville to Florence Sc via Columbia Sc and Charleston SC. The route is created in 1:1 scale and track for with no selective compression. After 7 years of working on the route I'm still no where near finished. Now I have no idea how many boards I have only the route miles. The route got so big that on my machine it broke the program so I had to split the route. If your machine can handle a route that size go for it. Also good luck with your health.