Longest Train Ever?

Hmm, in a case like this I wonder on how many steam locomotives it would take to haul a heavy train with or without helpers on the rear and sure it might not be practical to do this in real life but in trainz you can but beware of the consequences of long trains and then have people waiting at railroad crossings complain about it later so the best thing to do is at least haul 100 cars like the N&W did when moving coal but it is your call!
 
Maybe Alcos. Would be a lot of smoke<g>.
I was thinking about the UP BigBoy. But I like the SW idea. Wonder how many I would need.

I may have another problem though. I've got 1,009 cars in the yard, and my frame rate is soooo slooooooow. Maybe down to 1FPS. I haven't run FRAPS on it yet.
I'm hoping that once out of the yard, it will improve.
I've only got about half a dozen different types of cars.

FW

I have found that certain high poly locomotives such as: (PRR SD-45) slow framerates to absolutely crawl, sometimes making free roaming almost locked up. The locomotives are great, but severly effect framerates.

I have ben using WRRW Dark Balast-by Slavedriver. It's framerates are acceptable, but low poly chunky mesh tracks like that of MP Wood are superiorly better...you get what you pay for...you pay for what you get !:cool:
 
Long ago when I was 6 and Trainz 1.3 was realeased, I made a train of oil tankers about 2500 vehicles long (It was a game I was playing with a friend).
I put a single QR 2100 at the front and it took an hour for the whole train to be moving and 15 minutes to gain 1kilometre an hour. Up at 4km/h, it gained speed 1km+ every 2 minutes. Those were the results from my redux of the experiment in 2007, still with 1.3.
 
Australian BHP Iron ore train, the longest train to ever run in the world, this train is officially in the guinness book of world records for the longest train.
The record was set on june 21, 2001 in western australia between newman and port headland, a distance of 275km (170 miles) and the train consisted of 682 loaded iron ore wagons and 8 GE AC6000 locomotives giving a gross weight of almost 100,000 tonnes and moved 82,262 tonnes of ore, the train was 7.353 km (4.568 miles) long.
BHP iron ore did this to test locotrol which is where locomotives are evenly placed along the length of the train.
The locotrol setup was 2 locos-166 wagons, 2 locos-168 wagons, 2 locos-168 wagons, 1 loco-180 wagons then the last locomotive on the back.
This very long train is controlled by only one driver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LsuNWjRaAo
 
But one thing they forget to mention is that they broke a lot of couplers while doing it, from memory it was around 14 of them :eek:

Cheers David
 
WCL, thanks for the information. I had forgotten the details.

Can you please do us all a favour? So that people are'nt sent on a wild goose chase, can you please edit your post to read:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LsuNWjRaAo

Note: This is the same video mentioned in Johnk's post #8 on Page 1. Don't bother clicking this link if you've already watched that video.

That would really would be the right thing to do.

Thanks

John
 
don't bother my arse...

:cool: Thanks JohnK for your link.

I always admired the courage of the folks from the land down under...

I saw a 330 car train the other night on YouTube & added this to my favorites also.

I like the view of the train descending the grade in the background...or maybe that was a tree...

This train has four sets of a total of six locos controlled by one driver!
 
Hi Alan,

1. Thanks.
2. Did you forget your link?
3. Did you get my email about three weeks ago re dobro?

Regards,

John
 
Who worked out how many hoppers were needed for the amount of ore to be moved or how many could be filled for a record?

The first have of the trains hoppers are loaded 100% full flattened with the bin scrapers.The rest are lower & peaked more like manually filled so there was enough to fill them all before they either ran out or had empties left over.


Dave
 
Dave, if you're referring to the ore train in the video, possibly a trip to Google Earth may solve so of your questions. I did some research on the thing about 12 months ago, but lost interest because of other commitments. As such, I can't point you to the location on Google Earth. When you do find it, you will see the yards where the trains are assembled. It's quite possible that the different car sets went through different loading facilities, thus the difference in which the ore on groups of cars is compacted. Google Earth clearly shows 1.5 to 2.5 km trains on various parts of the mainline.
 
Who worked out how many hoppers were needed for the amount of ore to be moved or how many could be filled for a record?

The first have of the trains hoppers are loaded 100% full flattened with the bin scrapers.The rest are lower & peaked more like manually filled so there was enough to fill them all before they either ran out or had empties left over.


Dave

I don't think that they worry about running out of ore, they can dig it out faster than the rail can move it.

Pilbara Rail moves around 110 million tons of ore every year.

Rio Tinto moves about 220 million tonnes of ore per year <--- that's over 600,000 tons per day :eek: :eek:

Cheers David
 
I saw a ridiculously long train on a YouTube video. It was a joke though. A "gotcha".
You watch it for a few minutes, then realize you're watching a loop!
I used to watch the Conrail "ENS" trains, consisting of 15 or so locomotives, and no cars.
I can imagine what might have been on the minds of people waiting at crossings when they saw all the locos. Probably thought they would be there for quite a while.

FW
 
I used to watch the Conrail "ENS" trains, consisting of 15 or so locomotives, and no cars.
FW

Railroads occasionally do that. Search Youtube for "power move" and you'll get plenty. :)

Pommie, how is gtasa being patriotic within those two lines?

Cheerio,
Nicholas.
 
I had to abandon my 1,000 car train effort. When I had that many cars in the yard, my frame rates dropped so low it was intolerable.
Maybe if I have a couple hundred cars at one yard, then a hundred more here and there along the line.
Or, maybe it's just a waste of time.

15 Locos... yea. A power move. It was always northbound, from Newark/Kearny to Selkirk.
Sometimes they had strange units. Old, odd paint, foreign RR's. Interesting.

FW
 
Yeah me too...I had a 12 mile long train on the East Slope-Altoona to Galitzin, and it became hopelessly stalled...I think I'll get a running start up the grade next time.
 
FW, I was wondering if staying in the cab would help with framerates. Also, since this is more of an experiment than a real run, why not try making the train up using a single low-poly car and several not-so-high-poly locomotives (such as the default GP7s and 9s for example).

If anyone is eager I could also attempt such an experiment and post screens and results.

Cheerio,
Nicholas.
 
So I guess my 1,000 car train will be small potatoes to yours :D

FW

:p :o
Longer one in planning, too! Hmmm, let's see, I think I'll use about.... Er, let's just say I'll get a twenty baseboard empty layout, lay track from end to end, and see whether I can move a train with 4,000 cars. Loaded, of course. Of course!
This time, bring on the British Diesels!
:o :o :o
Edit;Maybe I'll just go nuts and make a fifty baseboard line, end to end track with a loop and see how it goes with.....



200 locomotives and 10,000 cars!
 
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