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Geez Smiley, you don't half generalise do you. .....and often driven by someone who isn't familiar with both camps.
I never generalise.
Nothing is 100%, and I've made that clear in all my posts.

And this isn't by someone who isn't familiar with both camps.
I've made that clear in my posts too.

There are people out there who put greater value on owning something specific than they do on why they have it.
It's a sad fact.

Smiley.
 
"I see. So they don't actually know what it is that they've bought. Which kind of suggests it's been bought because that's what everyone else has. :)

Baaa" -Amigacooke. (I messed up quoting.:hehe: )

No. Its because they need something done without caring about looks. There are a lot of people who can tell what their specs are, but not because they're PC fans.

By the way, when we are say PC, is it Windows or the computer itself?
 
I never generalise.
Nothing is 100%, and I've made that clear in all my posts.

And this isn't by someone who isn't familiar with both camps.
I've made that clear in my posts too.

There are people out there who put greater value on owning something specific than they do on why they have it.
It's a sad fact.

Smiley.

What, you are not generalising? By treating everyone who buys a mac as an idiot/sheep/cant think for themselves until they prove to you differently?

When you categorise someone without knowing them, purely on what they have bought you are doing a bit of generalisation, what else can you call it?

At least the mac guys, for whatever reason, know a bit about both and have mad a decision. Not so for a much larger population that baaaought pc's :)
 
What, you are not generalising? By treating everyone who buys a mac as an idiot/sheep/cant think for themselves until they prove to you differently?
Oh dear.
I've highlighted the problem with what you've said.
Let's take a look.
You say I said that everyone who buys a Mac is an idiot/sheep.
I quote myself:
If sheep hear that owning a Mac will make you look cool, then sheep will buy a Mac.
So, I actually said that sheep would buy a Mac, not people are sheep for buying a Mac.
Can't you see the simple distinction?


Let me quote some more of the things I've said:
Bear in mind that I use Macs almost on a daily basis, even though they're not my preferred machine.
I'm not talking about things blindly.

I come across a lot of people who own them because they wanted to buy something different to a PC (for the sake of being different)
This is a fact.
I laughed at them when they said it, and their response was something like "I don't care. It looks great on my desk."


I've known quite a few art students over the years (because Art is also a passion of mine), and even some of them have agreed that out of a class of art students using Macs, you'd only find a handful of students that loved the Mac for the right reasons, and the rest loved it because they were art students and they had to have a Mac, like it was an arty badge.
I've highlighted in red the words that show I NEVER said ALL Mac owners, and always pointed out that it was SOME.

I've come across fanboys for Macs and PCs, Xbox360 and PS3, Forza and Gran Turismo, and I think they're all hysterical to listen to.
I'm talking about Fanboys specifically here.

If you recall, my signature a few months ago took the P out of people who place their system specs in their signature space, and a few PC owners took umbrage to that because they thought I was mocking them, which I was.
Again, proof that I'm not anti-Mac (although I have nothing to prove to anyone), and it shows that I dislike pretentious people in general, whether their computer is dull grey or bright pink! :D

Would I defend PCs if someone started to slag them off?
No, of course not.
It's just a computer!

As far as I'm concerned, bright boxes and monitors (which you can buy for PCs now by the way) are the equivalent of huge spoilers and huge exhausts on road cars, and people should have grown out of them long before they leave their teens.

BTW, I was given an old Mac about 4 or 5 years ago, and it was ancient then, and it looked very much like a PC in its grey dullness.
It may even still be in the attic, I don't know.

I think the point you're missing is that Apple had a reason for changing the look of the Mac, and like most things these days, it's all about image.
They targeted people who wanted a computer that matched their sofa (rofl), and it worked a treat.
It also worked with the Ipod and no doubt will work with the iPad.

Let's not forget those annoying ads for the new Dell machines, with almost any colour you want available.
They're trying to cash in on the overlap of the 2 markets.

It's not a lie.
It's not generalising.
It's a fact.

One more thing.
I understand how it can be annoying for Mac owners to hear me saying these things.
If you're someone whose owned Macs for years, even when they were ugly, because you've always liked the way the OS worked, you're now suddenly grouped together with those who bought one to be different or to match their sofa (so funny).

Which is why it's important that you read carefully.
There will be people who generalise what Mac users are, but you'll find that they are the sort of people who post their PC system specs in their signatures. :hehe:

I say to both camps, "It's a bloody computer!"
Learn to utilise it, not polish it.

Smiley.
 
I think these discussions are usually a windows vs mac thing.
I think we could say that was a rather large generalisation.
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I say to both camps, "It's a bloody computer!"
Learn to utilise it, not polish it.
You mean to say I could have done something for the last 25 years other than sitting there admiring my Electron, Spectrum, Amiga, Portfolio, Handspring, PCs and Mac?

If only I'd known.

PS I'm sending round my Grandmother and some eggs. She needs training. :)
 
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With all your quoting, what you didn't quote was your opening post as below. The subject was the ipad and trainz, not your opionion about people who buy apple products.

I guess what irked me was the typical personal response response you came back with to a simple question.

Sure, you can follow up in another post with with I've got nothing against them but it sounds so much like I'm not a racist because I've got a black friend. It's what you say at the beginning that gives the game away, not how you try and retract things later.

I agree though, it's only about a computer.


Ahh, the iPad.
The iPod Touch for people with bad eyesight who still want to be as pretentious as everyone else.

Steve Jobs is relying on the "sheep mentality" of the Mac crowd and the iPod crowd to sell his latest baby.
Don't let him down guys! :hehe:

Smiley.
 
Yes, absolutely, I dont bother playing any games on the mac, theres nothing I would want to play on it.

The pc's are on the leading edge for available graphics cards/games. I will always have a pc around for that :)
 
Hi Everybody.
What I read of it in this mornings press here in the uk, the Ipad does not seem to run anything at all very well even the internet.

It seems that a great number of customers are trying to get their money back if the stories are true, so i would have my doubts it would run trainz.

I Think only a good pc or very up-market laptop is really up to the running that with any satisfaction.

So don’t waste your Money (at least untill the problems are sorted out)


Bill:hehe:
 
Hi Everybody.
What I read of it in this mornings press here in the uk, the Ipad does not seem to run anything at all very well even the internet.

It seems that a great number of customers are trying to get their money back if the stories are true, so i would have my doubts it would run trainz.

I Think only a good pc or very up-market laptop is really up to the running that with any satisfaction.

So don’t waste your Money (at least untill the problems are sorted out)


Bill:hehe:


It's true, I tried to compile the source code for the internet but it wouldn't run!
 
Valve are planning a beta for Steam on the Mac.

Which is oddly irrelevant to the iPad.

The iPad is NOT a mac, it's an iPhone with a bigger screen - literally that is what it is. It does not run Mac, or PC, software, and has no such thing as Bootcamp.

For the iPad to run anything trainz like, it would have to be specifically written and approved by the Apple 'AppStore'.

Getting trainz itself on it? Not a chance, it violates several rules that apple insist upon for application developers, so would never be approved. TinyTrainz might be a different issue though.
 
Well done Valve:clap:. Shame there only about eight years late:'(.

Bill

It is also completely pointless. You will get valve games, and maybe a few other games, but chances are, most developers won't bother to waste the resources to create a port to Macs. Also, Macs, while having some pretty good software, really fail when it comes to the hardware. Chances are that alot of games would overtax a Mac.

By the way, have fun playing Halflife 2. It was alot of fun.:p
 
Also, Macs, while having some pretty good software, really fail when it comes to the hardware. Chances are that alot of games would overtax a Mac.
In which particular aspect of the hardware do Mac's fail please?

Would this do you?

Two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
32GB memory (eight 4GB DIMMs)
Four NVIDIA GeForce GT 120
Hard drive bays 1-4: 2TB Serial ATA 3Gb/s (7200 rpm)


Mac Pro Specs
 
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