I realty need to know how to un_obsleate a asset

[xcrossi]

Hello

No..I don't want to download the upgrade.
The upgrade is not on the DLS...NO it isn't!

I need to get around the CMs KUID check.
same kuid number is a different asset...

Unknown Location: <kuid:243294:100473>
Missing dependencies: Baldwin modern 4-4-0 kuid 2:243284:100473:2

from CM try to download
then check Asset Versons
and view in main
Download Station: Baldwin modern 4-4-0
A layout has the kuid 2:243284:100473:3

Gerry

 

[dnevans8]

The :1 and :2 assets are both on the dls, just search for 243294:100473 on the black pages http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewassethistory.php?AssetID=255085, then download the one you want via download page and FTP. Import the cdp into CM and ignore the update that CM gives you. If you have already downloaded the :3 version just delete it before you import the one you want.

 

[clam1952]

Someone slipped up there by the looks of it. Clone the original item and change the config of the dependency in the loco's config, not forgetting to change it in the kuid table as well.
Meaning if say it is a bogie, change the bogie to your clone and update the kuid table.

 

[xcrossi]

The :1 and :2 assets are both on the dls, just search for 243294:100473 on the black pages http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewassethistory.php?AssetID=255085, then download the one you want via download page and FTP. Import the cdp into CM and ignore the update that CM gives you. If you have already downloaded the :3 version just delete it before you import the one you want.

[h=2]I really need to know how to un_obsolete a asset .[/h]what part of that don't you understand.

never mind I have a old app that can fool CM and change numbers.


The 3 version is a layout!

2012 loco
It does not work!

Try It your self.

I'm looking at the surveyor menu and you cannot place loco on track.

as am matter of fact I'm finding many assets that
have the same number for different objects.

Gerry

 

[shaneturner12]

Indeed. The OP also let me know of another problematic update - I've advised him to contact Helpdesk so N3V can investigate it as well.

Shane

 

[dnevans8]

I really need to know how to un_obsolete a asset .

what part of that don't you understand.

I do understand your request!!!

In TS12 if you delete an updated version of an asset it does un - obsolete the previous asset.

I assumed you were having problems getting hold of the :2 version in CM because it wanted to give you the :3 version hence my suggestion to use ftp on the black pages.

 

[frogpipe]

as am matter of fact I'm finding many assets that
have the same number for different objects.

It might be something on the DLS end, but it sounds really odd. I'd try an Extended Database Repair first. Then if it persists, contact the helpdesk.

 

[shaneturner12]

My feeling is that it's a faulty update as a result of the DLS Cleanup Project, so N3V could do with knowing about it.

Shane

 

[xcrossi]

I don't want to be mean, but unless you have tried to place that loco on a track then you don't understand the problem

Ok how about this one

Radcliff Crew Hoist yellow error Kuid2:210518:8468:2

Obsolete Storage tank 24 yellow error Kuid2:210518:8468:1

I can't use the Storage Tank because it has been obsoleted
by the Radcliff Crew Hoist.

If I delete the crew hoist a up grade pops for the tank
when I up grade the tank the hoist is installed and the
tank becomes obsolete.


Well that's just wonderful
I pay for a 1st class ticket
and when I update it messed up two assets.

So..is there a way to change the kuid number to eliminate the conflict.
because when I try the asset won't commit.
Gerry

 

[shaneturner12]

Your best bet in that case is to ignore the update(s), and send the details to N3V via the Helpdesk so they can check them.

Shane

 

[xcrossi]

Ok but I seems like every time I try to get something done
I run into two more problems

I notice that I didn't get a answer to my original request.

There has got to be away to change kuids.

Maybe I have to go to a RU or CZ site to find out.

Gerry

 

[clam1952]

Just looked at it, suggest posting in bill69's thread about his updates or sending him a pm, rather than running through hoops to get it working, it's a creator error not an n3V one, not a problem N3V can sort out.

Probably caused by having multiple Trainz installs and not checking what kuids have been used, easily done if you are not careful, it is possible that Bill is already aware and an update is on route, remember there has been a hold up on approvals for a week or so.

 

[dnevans8]

I have just checked on CM and the :3 version is not appearing as an update for the :2 version so possibly N3V have done something about the incorrect update. If you are still seeing it as an update then perhaps an EDR is required to clear it as suggested above.

As for placing the loco on the track, I have just downloaded the Baldwin using CM 2 version and not showing as out of date) and it shows three missing dependencies, two bogies and the hornsound, so unless you already had these or have tracked them down it will not be possible to place it on the tracks and it should appear red in the surveyor list.

 

[xcrossi]

I don't have multy installs
Probably caused by having multiple Trainz installs

 

[shaneturner12]

It's probably the asset creator that has multiple Trainz installs.

Shane

 

[xcrossi]

Error: Dependency <kuid2:243294:100479:1> is unknown...bogey <kuid2:243294:100479:1>
That is the only dependency I'm missing and it is not on the black pages.

There is nothing with the CM.
There is nothing wrong with my system.
There is nothing wrong with my trainz install.

The Obsolete Baldwin will not delete..

Going to take a nap now....

Then I'm going to figger a way to change kuid numbers

 

[clam1952]

Correct Shane and something I have to watch out for as I did it myself with my first uploads, luckily it only conflicted with stuff I hadn't uploaded so was able to fix at my end without confusing anyone!

@ xcrossi.

No one said it was your fault or there is anything wrong with your setup, it's more than likely down to the creator making an error, it happens we are all human and prone to getting something wrong occasionally.

Probably be a few more people querying the problem soon enough.

 

[shaneturner12]

Changing KUID numbers is tricky, as it requires the following:

1.Opening the asset for edit.
2.Copying the asset folder from the Editing folder to the desktop or similar, then reverting the copy in Content Manager.
3.Editing the copy on the desktop, then re-importing the asset.

Shane

 

[clam1952]

Confirm the bogie isn't on the DLS, may still be in approval. I'd give it a couple of days and hope it appears.

 

[dnevans8]

Error: Dependency <kuid2:243294:100479:1> is unknown...bogey <kuid2:243294:100479:1>
That is the only dependency I'm missing and it is not on the black pages.

If you are missing that dependency then the loco is faulty and will not show up in game. I think it is a fairly recent update of his original drive bogie and will probably appear on the dls in the next day or so when the backlog of uploads is completed. In the meantime you could try replacing the kuid under bogeys 2 and in the kuid table with kuid:96914:504891 which is the old bogie although this might be defeating the object of the update.

You say the original Baldwin will not delete, this usually happens when the asset is built-in, which it is not, or you have already deleted it but it is still appearing as an asset that is present on the dls (it will still appear as obsolete), or you have infact not dowloaded it.