Australian screenshots
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Patchy, I'm in love with your screenshots. The Dickabram Bridge looks excellent...
...even mum thought so!! :hehe:
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Fantastic!! Having driven over the bridge many times the screenshots look spot on! Great stuff once again Patchy. :Y:
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D9007_Pinza
Murringo's shed foreman
A (not so) random screenshot to continue the collieries theme from the other page.
BTW, Pete, what do the P and R markings on the hoppers denote Pelaw Main and Rhonda collieries respectively? I've worked out the following:
A = Aberdare
B = J&A Brown
C = Caledonia
CC = Cessnock Collieries
E = Elrington
H = Hexham
HB = Hebburn
MM = Maitland Main
P.S. A polite request for you Pete, Some of the different size hoppers please? I will email more details, etc and what dimensional information I can gather on them. Appearance and construction is essentially the same, but some had steel underframes.
BTW, Pete, what do the P and R markings on the hoppers denote Pelaw Main and Rhonda collieries respectively? I've worked out the following:
A = Aberdare
B = J&A Brown
C = Caledonia
CC = Cessnock Collieries
E = Elrington
H = Hexham
HB = Hebburn
MM = Maitland Main
P.S. A polite request for you Pete, Some of the different size hoppers please? I will email more details, etc and what dimensional information I can gather on them. Appearance and construction is essentially the same, but some had steel underframes.
Forest_Runner
Well-known member
These two are wild-arse guesses... as I don't recall seeing these ones (live or photos).
P = Pelton??
R = Rothbury??
I do know these for certain however...
H = Hebburn.
HB = Hetton-Bellbird.
Man... they were good days the late 80's chasing the last of steam on the old SMR lines. Some very fond memories. It was part of my "first big outing" away from Sydney, by car, the week after I got my drivers licence.
One from me on the same score...
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Forest_Runner
Well-known member
Like I said Jamie, just guessing... my initial thought was Pelaw Main + Richmond Main.
I recall seeing old photos of Pelaw Main hoppers with the full name printed on the side rather than the letter P. I saw this concept for Muswellbrook as well. Still, doesn't mean it's not Pelaw Main adopting letters at some later point.
Ruled Richmond Main out, as they didn't have their own. They used either Pelaw Main or J&A Brown hoppers if I recall my RVR learnings correctly.
Demonlord_Hightower
Member
The Coal, Railways and Mines Books by Brian Andrews would be your best bet in finding out about these non-air hoppers.
Hi all,
I have just posted a video of S301 (Zec's) Australian VR F Class 2-4-2t-SB-C (His Birthday Present to the community) over at YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fxG3yrLZUk
It is a moving screen shot.
I hope you all like the video.
Regards
I have just posted a video of S301 (Zec's) Australian VR F Class 2-4-2t-SB-C (His Birthday Present to the community) over at YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fxG3yrLZUk
It is a moving screen shot.
I hope you all like the video.Regards
Nice video Axe and a great little loco to watch running around.Hi all,
I have just posted a video of S301 (Zec's) Australian VR F Class 2-4-2t-SB-C (His Birthday Present to the community) over at YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fxG3yrLZUk
It is a moving screen shot.
Regards
Craig
Forest_Runner
Well-known member
Tweaked this scene a bit... wanted to show the cutting in the background where the old right of way used to be. Contemplating uploading the Flinders module today...
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H = Hebburn.
HB = Hetton-Bellbird.
P = Pelton
I cant remember what R was and I cant find with a quick browse of my books.
What bigger hoppers? If you mean the government ones with the raised sides they are already on the dls either cch or lch I think I did them under the victrainz kuid
pete
HB = Hetton-Bellbird.
P = Pelton
I cant remember what R was and I cant find with a quick browse of my books.
What bigger hoppers? If you mean the government ones with the raised sides they are already on the dls either cch or lch I think I did them under the victrainz kuid
pete
D9007_Pinza
Murringo's shed foreman
Pete, thanks for clearing that up. The hoppers you have modelled are the 12 1/2 ton capacity hopppers, marked as such with an "LL" on the right hand side of the hopper body. these are largest design of non-air hopper, but there were also several smaller designs from the earlier years, indetified as below:
S - 7 tons capacity
SM - 8 tons capacity
M - 8 1/2 tons capacity
L - 10 tons capacity
LL - 12 1/2 tons capacity.
All the hoppers were essentially the same in regard to design, and I have seen some fitted with a basic single plank hungry board of similar design to the CCH hoppers fitted to all of these different types. Some also had their timber underframes replaced with steel versions as they wore out.
Cheers, Evan.
S - 7 tons capacity
SM - 8 tons capacity
M - 8 1/2 tons capacity
L - 10 tons capacity
LL - 12 1/2 tons capacity.
All the hoppers were essentially the same in regard to design, and I have seen some fitted with a basic single plank hungry board of similar design to the CCH hoppers fitted to all of these different types. Some also had their timber underframes replaced with steel versions as they wore out.
Cheers, Evan.
My W.I.P & Checking The Gauges
Hello All,
On the subject of the Dickabram bridge; I have used as the centre piece of my W.I.P QGR Kenonga Siding.
(WARNING MAY CONTAIN SCENES OF HIGH DETAIL):hehe:
P.S A polite request to Peter; Could it be possible to reply to my email, It would be loverly to hear from yourself. I have put the Brisbane route on the back of my list at the moment; I really want to do the Main Southern Line from Warwick To Wallanagarra including the Amiens Branchline.
So a B15 Converted/ PB15 Steph Valve Gear is on my list of things to do.
Now some Photograghs from the Commissioners Camera;
The Down Combined Signal - Looking Towards The Bridge
The Windmill & Dam In The Distance
The Princess Alexandria Creek Bridge
QR 1461 Centennial Hauls An ARHS Tour Train Down The 1 in 45 Gradient
Kenonga Siding From The Junk Pile
Meeting Of The Two Giants Under The Semaphores; QR 1461 & QGR 974
Hello All,
On the subject of the Dickabram bridge; I have used as the centre piece of my W.I.P QGR Kenonga Siding.
(WARNING MAY CONTAIN SCENES OF HIGH DETAIL):hehe:
P.S A polite request to Peter; Could it be possible to reply to my email, It would be loverly to hear from yourself. I have put the Brisbane route on the back of my list at the moment; I really want to do the Main Southern Line from Warwick To Wallanagarra including the Amiens Branchline.
So a B15 Converted/ PB15 Steph Valve Gear is on my list of things to do.
Now some Photograghs from the Commissioners Camera;
The Down Combined Signal - Looking Towards The Bridge
The Windmill & Dam In The Distance
The Princess Alexandria Creek Bridge
QR 1461 Centennial Hauls An ARHS Tour Train Down The 1 in 45 Gradient
Kenonga Siding From The Junk Pile
Meeting Of The Two Giants Under The Semaphores; QR 1461 & QGR 974
Kind Regards
Michael G
QR/QGR Commissioner
Michael G
QR/QGR Commissioner
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D9007_Pinza
Murringo's shed foreman
Pete, I'll see what I can trawl up.
Regards, Evan.
Regards, Evan.
actually if you want to go one better, contact the RVRM - they have (had) a huge collection of drawings - most ex Goninans builds. It is surprising how many variations on the theme were out there - apart from the obvious size differences, there were wood frame, steel frame, many variations in brake gear arrangements, axle boxes, buffers, dimensions etc etc .. even a few fitted with air brakes ( I think they may have been Musswellbrook - they always ran as block trains even after the great mix up of the 40's)
as for livery, most colliery owned hoppers started life with the colliery name in full: the alphabets became prevalent in later years (I suspect as a side effect of many of the company mergers that took place over the years), but several collieries retained full naming right till the end. Red oxide with white lettering was the most prevalent colour, but a goodly proportion were mid grey - Hepburn from memory was grey with yellow lettering