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Article: Announcing Trainz: A New Era Community Edition
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KingConrail76
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Wait, What? I thought that during the Kickstarter Campaign, you promised T:ANE would be released in December of 2014? (A fully functional, bug free, working, end result T:ANE, not a half-arsed quick release, so you can appear to keep your word, version!)
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KingConrail76
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Not true Fritzz. I have a very REAL idea of the tasks involved.
My gripe is over the fact that after all these years, N3V will not just come right out and say "Hey guys, we are falling short of our promises, and are going to need to delay the release of the FINAL, no Bugs, no Hiccups version of T:ANE. We hope you understand, and we thought you DESERVED AN HONEST EXPLAINATION."
This "CE" version is just smoke and mirrors to cover their collective behinds from the flames of loyalist who were unfortunate enough to give N3V their undeserved trust to FINALLY follow through with their promises, OR be 100% up-front, and say "We over estimated our ability to deliver this product."
N3V's thinking is (from appearances), "Well, we'll give them this CE version in Dec. 2014, which we know is full of bugs and errors, and TECHNICALLY we kept our word. Yeah, yeah, and then no one can call us names..."
If you actually read Tonys post http://forums.auran.com/trainz/show...w-Era-Community-Edition&p=1334094#post1334094 and clicked on the link marked here, it's all explained, why do not people read everything properly before jumping in feet first!
Copy of the important part from https://www.kickstarter.com/project...new-era-create-drive-operate-sh/posts/1019190
Copy of the important part from https://www.kickstarter.com/project...new-era-create-drive-operate-sh/posts/1019190
KingConrail76
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So it's my fault that they DID NOT post THAT information HERE...I should have to go to OTHER venues to find out information on THIS SITES PRODUCTS...
REDICULOUS!!
That information was not in the Newsletter I got YESTERDAY either, so, again N3V making it difficult, instead of being "upfront", HERE.
Seriously? They've been doing updates from kickstarter since they started. You're the one being ridiculous and I am under the impression you enjoy hearing yourself complain.
I think you need a break.
KingConrail76
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I withdrew my Kickstarter pledge, so I don't follow Kickstarter, why should I?
--N3V announcements should be on the N3V hosted Forums, No?
I know that they don't presume Kickstarter pledgers are their only Market base, because honestly, that turn out was much smaller than anticipated.
For the record, I asked a question, I did not lodge a complaint with my initial post. Only after I got attacked by the FanBoys, did I express a complaint, so thanks for piling on the bandwagon of hateful Fanboys who do more harm to N3V by means of disparaging potential customers, than a potential customer inquiring about a change in the promised time-scheduling of a T:ANE release.
--Atta Boy, you done good.
As pointed out in the main forum, it's not just Kickstarter backers, but all of us who pre-ordered that have a vested interest in this now. There needs to be ongoing full disclosure here not just on the KS page.
If this delay is finite and the new milestones are in place then I will wait patiently for the bug free, all (nearly) new train sim we have been promised. The CE version will be... a diversion, but given the indications are half of the promised features such as superelevation and the new dispatcher aren't included, there doesn't seem much point in using it for constructive route building. Essentially what we're getting is an advanced pre-beta. (It can't even be regarded as beta if the new features and stretch goals aren't implemented).
Fingers crossed it comes good in the end, but just remember Fury...
If this delay is finite and the new milestones are in place then I will wait patiently for the bug free, all (nearly) new train sim we have been promised. The CE version will be... a diversion, but given the indications are half of the promised features such as superelevation and the new dispatcher aren't included, there doesn't seem much point in using it for constructive route building. Essentially what we're getting is an advanced pre-beta. (It can't even be regarded as beta if the new features and stretch goals aren't implemented).
Fingers crossed it comes good in the end, but just remember Fury...
Tony_Hilliam
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We also posted relevant details in the forums: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?114978-Trainz-A-New-Era-Community-Edition
As I have said before, using Fury as an example of what might happen with Trainz makes no sense. Trainz survived, continues to survive (and thrive) today, and will survive well into the future thanks to the support of our Kickstarter fans (90% of who will have access this week to the beta release).
As I have said before, using Fury as an example of what might happen with Trainz makes no sense. Trainz survived, continues to survive (and thrive) today, and will survive well into the future thanks to the support of our Kickstarter fans (90% of who will have access this week to the beta release).
Programing anything to a preset date very rarely comes off. If you have done any programing you should know that one change to something that does not quite work right can affect up to another hundred or so lines of code and this all needs to be updated as well. It is impossible to know at the start exactly what will work and what will not work.
So I believe in letting them get on with it without gripes from those that do not know what is involved.
Cheers,
Bill69
So I believe in letting them get on with it without gripes from those that do not know what is involved.
Cheers,
Bill69
for it to come out, but thats ok for me I can waitcamelbacklao
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Today I've placed my pre-order for the Collectors Edition, wonder when it will arrive in Vientiane !
I am not sure what the gripe is all about, but as for the delay in the release day, I can say from past performances of trains, with bug fixes, Updates, Patches etc, I would rather they get T;ANE debugged before the release. Personally, I have trainz from 2006 up to now, and I have not seen a perfect debugged version yet. Be patient, and lets see if they can get one totally debugged even with a delay.
