stationmistress
By comparison JAFA
Another look.
Model Railroadz
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Off topic, I know, But your message box is full (My probable reasoning listed below.)
I know you probably get a ton of messages per day with the same question, "When will the 261 be released?"
My question is different.
Where will it be released?
On the DLS?
A file sharing site?
Just where?
I have the same question everyone else is asking, which is when, but, if you don't have an answer for that, i understand, the where is what I'm worried about.
Thanks, and Cheers :wave:
I know you probably get a ton of messages per day with the same question, "When will the 261 be released?"
My question is different.
Where will it be released?
On the DLS?
A file sharing site?
Just where?
I have the same question everyone else is asking, which is when, but, if you don't have an answer for that, i understand, the where is what I'm worried about.
Thanks, and Cheers :wave:
judahGrice
Retired Trainz User
Thanks to JR for Model Trainz Pack One!!!!! This Is my first ModelTrainz Layout which was done in about an hour and a half
Nice Start judahGrice 
This may help you & anyone else looking to make a start in model rail style building...
I thought that I might do my next route as a sort of "build log" to maybe try and show everyone my thought process and how I create since there is a bit of science (well, more maths really) behind my madness.
I'll confess straight away I'm not a writer by any stretch and my prototype knowledge is basic at best but there might be a few hints and tips that are new to some. So where to start?
All my MR projects start with setting out the space and baseboards, this is probably due to the fact I find it easier to work once my spacial parameters are defined. I'm a commercial estimator for a plumbing company by trade so walls, floors and doors come easy to me. I'll generally have some inspiration with regards to what I want to achieve in the space but really I'll just wing it and see what looks good. Sometimes just placing a building can set the tone of what will end up in any given area.
For this project the inspiration was a plan in Model Railroad Planning 2014, The Iowa Interstate Grimes Line by James McNab (here's an online article of the same). I really like the idea of small, low revenue freight with the option of multiple mainline interchange which should lend itself well to VR modelling. While I'm not going to copy any part of this design it should give a good idea of what I'm trying to accomplish. Scenery wise I'm still undecided but it will probably be very similar to The Old Room line in one of the previous posts.
Anyway, like I said, I'm not a writer so on with the useful bit.
PART 1: Build The Room
This is 3x1 baseboard layout so I normally start by mapping out the area using the ruler tool (the diagonal lines indicate the void space). The route will follow the outer walls 4.1' wide with a double width peninsula through the central section to give maximum (yet simple) line length.
Next step is to place the floors (missed that shot sorry, but they run in the void space at -45) and the lower ceilings around the boards that sit behind the valance. Try to leave a 5-10mm (1/2" for you imperialists) inside the ruler line to avoid these poking out through the face. Then overlap these with whatever main ceiling spline you choose (a contrast in colour/texture works well)
Next up set the heights. I used 140 for the main ceilings and 80 for the layout false ceiling although go with whatever looks right to you.
Now run around the rulers with either a plain fascia (if you want to add visible supports) or fascia with curtains (if you're lazy like I am). Once these are in place follow around the same space with the valance spline just on the inside face of the fascia spline (see the reason for the gap in the previous point). Head around and set the heights for the valance, again this is whatever looks right (I think I used 120 from memory). It's good to get this in place now as it's a pain to fix later on.
Stating to take shape already!
Now pick out the void space with whatever dighole works, by complete coincidence my voids were 12 gridlines wide so 2 6x6 digholes worked perfectly with only a bit of mucking around needed at the end of the peninsula. These will need to be dropped to -50 to go under the floor spline.
Now add in whatever walls you want. I've used the MRR HO scale white since they're quick and easy (and again, I'm lazy). Just remember to lower them so the skirting is under the baseboard level, -20 works ok behind the curtains or -45 if you want them visible at floor level. You could also use the E piece in a square to represent a structural column in a large open space but I'm going with the peninsula wall as structural so I didn't need them (ok, that bit is the technical builder in me).
Knock out the rulers and there you have it. One large open space.
Next up... track laying (maybe)
This may help you & anyone else looking to make a start in model rail style building...
I thought that I might do my next route as a sort of "build log" to maybe try and show everyone my thought process and how I create since there is a bit of science (well, more maths really) behind my madness.
I'll confess straight away I'm not a writer by any stretch and my prototype knowledge is basic at best
but there might be a few hints and tips that are new to some. So where to start? All my MR projects start with setting out the space and baseboards, this is probably due to the fact I find it easier to work once my spacial parameters are defined. I'm a commercial estimator for a plumbing company by trade so walls, floors and doors come easy to me. I'll generally have some inspiration with regards to what I want to achieve in the space but really I'll just wing it and see what looks good. Sometimes just placing a building can set the tone of what will end up in any given area.
For this project the inspiration was a plan in Model Railroad Planning 2014, The Iowa Interstate Grimes Line by James McNab (here's an online article of the same). I really like the idea of small, low revenue freight with the option of multiple mainline interchange which should lend itself well to VR modelling. While I'm not going to copy any part of this design it should give a good idea of what I'm trying to accomplish. Scenery wise I'm still undecided but it will probably be very similar to The Old Room line in one of the previous posts.
Anyway, like I said, I'm not a writer so on with the useful bit.
PART 1: Build The Room
This is 3x1 baseboard layout so I normally start by mapping out the area using the ruler tool (the diagonal lines indicate the void space). The route will follow the outer walls 4.1' wide with a double width peninsula through the central section to give maximum (yet simple) line length.
Next step is to place the floors (missed that shot sorry, but they run in the void space at -45) and the lower ceilings around the boards that sit behind the valance. Try to leave a 5-10mm (1/2" for you imperialists) inside the ruler line to avoid these poking out through the face. Then overlap these with whatever main ceiling spline you choose (a contrast in colour/texture works well)
Next up set the heights. I used 140 for the main ceilings and 80 for the layout false ceiling although go with whatever looks right to you.
Now run around the rulers with either a plain fascia (if you want to add visible supports) or fascia with curtains (if you're lazy like I am). Once these are in place follow around the same space with the valance spline just on the inside face of the fascia spline (see the reason for the gap in the previous point). Head around and set the heights for the valance, again this is whatever looks right (I think I used 120 from memory). It's good to get this in place now as it's a pain to fix later on.
Stating to take shape already!
Now pick out the void space with whatever dighole works, by complete coincidence my voids were 12 gridlines wide so 2 6x6 digholes worked perfectly with only a bit of mucking around needed at the end of the peninsula. These will need to be dropped to -50 to go under the floor spline.
Now add in whatever walls you want. I've used the MRR HO scale white since they're quick and easy (and again, I'm lazy). Just remember to lower them so the skirting is under the baseboard level, -20 works ok behind the curtains or -45 if you want them visible at floor level. You could also use the E piece in a square to represent a structural column in a large open space but I'm going with the peninsula wall as structural so I didn't need them (ok, that bit is the technical builder in me).
Knock out the rulers and there you have it. One large open space.
Next up... track laying (maybe)
Railwoodman
Well-known member
I've have a few questions of sorts? What kind of frame rate are you guys getting on these layouts. And would you recommend a minimal cpu to run these. I love the work, but I'm running in a lag issue with my own work. And see this as a possible solution, without a rebuilding a PC.
Epoche3bis4
absolute TRS22 Fan
@paks44, edc dock 7789-TRS2010 / msgsapper / Kuid:439337:100164 / DLS .
Best regards
Epo
Railwoodman --
The frame rate will depend both on your PC and the number and density of assets used in your routes.
For a comparison, perhaps download the two Model Trainz layouts that I have uploaded to the Download Station, "Federal Street Switching Yard" and "Deepwater Railroad Co". You should get very good frame rates from both of these.
Phil
The frame rate will depend both on your PC and the number and density of assets used in your routes.
For a comparison, perhaps download the two Model Trainz layouts that I have uploaded to the Download Station, "Federal Street Switching Yard" and "Deepwater Railroad Co". You should get very good frame rates from both of these.
Phil
Railwoodman
Well-known member
Thanks for your reply. This has completely changed my idea of route building. And keep up the great work and pics
luvintrainz
Point, Click Destruction!
I still have a problem, when I install the JR "Model Railroadz" pack. It installs nothing. Any idea why?
eso --
My approach to constructing a model trainz layout is almost exactly the opposite to yours.
Even when following a published track plan I'm never sure exactly how much space will be required by the track work.
So I lay the track, add scenic items, do the terra forming and texturing, and last of all do the model trainz bits - dig holes, walls, floor, fascia, backdrops and supporting legs.
My approach to constructing a model trainz layout is almost exactly the opposite to yours.
Even when following a published track plan I'm never sure exactly how much space will be required by the track work.
So I lay the track, add scenic items, do the terra forming and texturing, and last of all do the model trainz bits - dig holes, walls, floor, fascia, backdrops and supporting legs.
stationmistress
By comparison JAFA
Ready for upload. Boxes to throw around a layout or put items of rolling stock inside. Rollable side-to-side 90deg.
@paks44, edc dock 7789-TRS2010 / msgsapper / Kuid:439337:100164 / DLS .
Best regards
Epo
Wow, Epo! Your best yet I would say
I know those trees on that hill are Pofigs but I don't know the specific name. Could you please let me know? they look perfect for my Aussie layouts :hehe:
Keep it up mate!
Cheers
Stevo
Wow, Epo! Your best yet I would say
I know those trees on that hill are Pofigs but I don't know the specific name. Could you please let me know? they look perfect for my Aussie layouts :hehe:
Keep it up mate!
Cheers
Stevo
Actually I believe there from here. http://bbf11.krb.com.pl/?polska-roslinnosc-do-trs,102 They're billboard trees, I don't know how there made, but they work great in Trainz 12 and I hope more content like this is made. The page is in polish but the download button is at the bottom. It opened up in Winrar for me, just click and hit enter Content Manager will do the rest.
Some more WIP shots.
