Just came across this. One of the only videos on YT of a train actually derailing (as opposed to hitting a car) that is in a reasonable definition. Makes me wonder which locomotives were involved, and if I could use invisible tracks to replicate some images of it in Trainz.
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YT video of a tornado derailing a train
- Thread starter jonwray
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Just came across this. One of the only videos on YT of a train actually derailing (as opposed to hitting a car) that is in a reasonable definition. Makes me wonder which locomotives were involved, and if I could use invisible tracks to replicate some images of it in Trainz.
Is this a confirmed tornado? It could be one of many weather events with strong winds including:
Gust Front or Derecho http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derecho
RFD (Rear Flank Downdraft in the wake of a super cell)
Inflow winds into a super cell
Microburst from a collapsing thunderstorm
A tornado, possibly...
Yes, the train did derail, but luckily the engine(s) did not. If you look carefully, you can see the cars peel off the tracks and then the remaining cars get pulled with them towards the locomotive as the engine stopped because the braking system went into emergency. It looks like the locomotives survived or just got bumped from behind because the rest of the freight cars were in the way.
Can this be done in Trainz? No. We don't have that kind of collision physics.
The above weather events can all cause this to happen. Gust fronts can have winds in them of well above 120 mph and have been known to flip tractor trailer trucks, and freight trains as well as rip houses apart and flatten small buildings. RFD is quite strong and can have winds in the 80mph range, and inflow winds into a super cell can reach the same. While chasing out in Pratt Kansas with Silver Lining Tours back in May 2008, we experienced some strong inflow winds. They were strong enough to flatten power lines and cause our vans to lose traction on the road.
Microbursts are collapsing thunderstorms as mentioned. These have been known to flip airplanes and cause lots of damage, and yes of course a tornado could do this, but is this one? We can't tell by the video. It definitely did occur during a thunderstorm.
John
Gust Front or Derecho http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derecho
RFD (Rear Flank Downdraft in the wake of a super cell)
Inflow winds into a super cell
Microburst from a collapsing thunderstorm
A tornado, possibly...
Yes, the train did derail, but luckily the engine(s) did not. If you look carefully, you can see the cars peel off the tracks and then the remaining cars get pulled with them towards the locomotive as the engine stopped because the braking system went into emergency. It looks like the locomotives survived or just got bumped from behind because the rest of the freight cars were in the way.
Can this be done in Trainz? No. We don't have that kind of collision physics.
The above weather events can all cause this to happen. Gust fronts can have winds in them of well above 120 mph and have been known to flip tractor trailer trucks, and freight trains as well as rip houses apart and flatten small buildings. RFD is quite strong and can have winds in the 80mph range, and inflow winds into a super cell can reach the same. While chasing out in Pratt Kansas with Silver Lining Tours back in May 2008, we experienced some strong inflow winds. They were strong enough to flatten power lines and cause our vans to lose traction on the road.
Microbursts are collapsing thunderstorms as mentioned. These have been known to flip airplanes and cause lots of damage, and yes of course a tornado could do this, but is this one? We can't tell by the video. It definitely did occur during a thunderstorm.
John
I don't think it's a tornado either. The winds look like they're traveling in a linear direction, not swirling like in a tornado. I don't think it's a RFD as, from what I know, RFD's have winds directing towards the ground, instead of moving across the ground. Also, I hope that the tank car was empty, otherwise there could have been a spill of hazardous material around the derailment. If you want to see a train being chased by a tornado, watch this video:
I don't think it's a tornado either. The winds look like they're traveling in a linear direction, not swirling like in a tornado. I don't think it's a RFD as, from what I know, RFD's have winds directing towards the ground, instead of moving across the ground. Also, I hope that the tank car was empty, otherwise there could have been a spill of hazardous material around the derailment. If you want to see a train being chased by a tornado, watch this video:
Then again, if you want to see a Norfolk Southern train get hit by an EF3 tornado, watch this video:
NOTE: THERE ARE A LOT OF EXPLECTIVES, WITH NO BLEEPING! IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO HEAR A LOT OF EXPLECTIVES, DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO!
RFD I agree is more downward, however, like a microburst if you're on the outside edge, the force can be linear as it wraps around and returns back into the super cell. The winds can become almost linear at this point. In the first video you posted here, you can see the power flashes as the funnel hits the power lines and transformers. They look like lightning, but this is the transformers exploding. In the last video, do they say where the EF3 took place? There was a string of them back in 2011 that did considerable damage down in MS, and AL. This must've been one of those storms. The train crew was very lucky as they got sideswiped more than directly hit by the storm.
John
Didn't mean the actual derailment happening in the game, but rather the aftermath of it, like invisible tracks with hoppers, boxcars, etc. to simulate being derailed without the actual derailment symbol, much nicer for screenshots.Is this a confirmed tornado? It could be one of many weather events with strong winds including:
Gust Front or Derecho http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derecho
RFD (Rear Flank Downdraft in the wake of a super cell)
Inflow winds into a super cell
Microburst from a collapsing thunderstorm
A tornado, possibly...
Yes, the train did derail, but luckily the engine(s) did not. If you look carefully, you can see the cars peel off the tracks and then the remaining cars get pulled with them towards the locomotive as the engine stopped because the braking system went into emergency. It looks like the locomotives survived or just got bumped from behind because the rest of the freight cars were in the way.
Can this be done in Trainz? No. We don't have that kind of collision physics.
The above weather events can all cause this to happen. Gust fronts can have winds in them of well above 120 mph and have been known to flip tractor trailer trucks, and freight trains as well as rip houses apart and flatten small buildings. RFD is quite strong and can have winds in the 80mph range, and inflow winds into a super cell can reach the same. While chasing out in Pratt Kansas with Silver Lining Tours back in May 2008, we experienced some strong inflow winds. They were strong enough to flatten power lines and cause our vans to lose traction on the road.
Microbursts are collapsing thunderstorms as mentioned. These have been known to flip airplanes and cause lots of damage, and yes of course a tornado could do this, but is this one? We can't tell by the video. It definitely did occur during a thunderstorm.
John
Didn't mean the actual derailment happening in the game, but rather the aftermath of it, like invisible tracks with hoppers, boxcars, etc. to simulate being derailed without the actual derailment symbol, much nicer for screenshots.
That would be something N3V would need to do. As far as realistic derailments, that's quite difficult due to the amount of meshes needed to represent dented and bent objects. You could try something with invisible track and see what happens - just don't derail and you can get the trains all bunched up in a knot maybe.
John
cascaderailroad
New member
I read somewhere that a train was picked up, and put back on the track by a twister ... Probably just a lie ?
MeowRailroad
CKRail
Probably, that reminds me of my idea for a plane that lands on railroad tracks.
judahGrice
Retired Trainz User
I read somewhere that a train was picked up, and put back on the track by a twister ... Probably just a lie ?
sounds like a tall tale...
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