What should EMD do?

[legolistic]

Read the topic and answer the question.

A: Increase the SD80MAC's Production
B: Make a 12 or 16 cylinder 3000hp engine
C: Designate the SD9043ac an SD75mac.
D: Make some more booster units. (I like booster units and high hood units.)

Make some more suggestions if you'd like.

 

[aardvark1]

Electro-Motive Diesel, Inc., also referred to as "EMD", is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Progress Rail Services Corporation, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Caterpillar Inc.


That said, EMD will do what it is told to do by Progress Rail and Caterpillar, Inc.---- based on customer requirements and orders placed.


The primary function of corporations is to make profit for their shareholders, so it is a mute point for anyone to guess their production strategy.

Have fun,

 

[simulatortrain]

Read the topic and answer the question.

A: Increase the SD80MAC's Production
B: Make a 12 or 16 cylinder 3000hp engine
C: Designate the SD9043ac an SD75mac.
D: Make some more booster units. (I like booster units and high hood units.)

Make some more suggestions if you'd like.

There are some problems with these ideas.

A: The SD80MAC isn't even in production. If anyone was interested in 5000 hp units, EMD would design a SD80ACe.
B: Why use more cylinders to do something you can get with less? 12 would work, but again, there's not too much interest.
C: "What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet"
D: Boosters have proved operationally impractical, and high hoods were a headache to builders so they won't build them anymore.

What they'll really be doing: Making the SD70ACe Tier 4 compatible. There are rumors that EMDX 70 is what the new version will look like. There is an extra fan in front of the engine compartment and a new large vent.

 

[norfolksouthern37]

that was a very good answer to a very silly post.

100% agree

 

[cascaderailroad]

Use an alternative fuel source

Turn it up LOUD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUXu6-watqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyfhzqhJNbg

 

[UP4021]

C: Designate the SD9043ac an SD75mac.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there already an SD75mac?

 

[simulatortrain]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there already an SD75mac?

Only a SD75M.

 

[UP4021]

Only a SD75M.

Ahh. I see.

But still, a correlation between the two?

 

[backyard]

...it all depends...

EMC to your EMD-GM to your EMDiesel...the Prime Mover, is the prime-mover.

The History of EMD is all about a V-type 2-cycle Roots-blown or turbo-charged Diesel engine.

Thousands of families lived off the success of this engine.

Though EMD product usually cost more initially than the competitors, the unitized construction of the products that used this prime mover made them competitive & a Global network of parts distribution and service.

Caterpillar engines litter the History of locomotive production & rebuild-refitting, but the economics of operations precluded that Caterpillar engines were "overbuilt," for the ops of railroading.

The Electro-Motive Diesel as you know it, surrounds the production of the current winner(Series 710V), but does not exclude the 265H engine, that is currently being applied to an order from China. The 265H engine incorporated European engineering & is in fact built for locomotive service.

The applications along with rail locomotives include marine, oil-field & rig & power generation. These customers also chose EMD prime movers for a reason, and loyalty to the brand is important even today. EPA certification for EMD is registered, the engineering changes are going to the floor for production. The new V8 & V12 Eco R&R packages are tailor fitted for modernizing past production applications.

Merely writing-off EMD because Caterpillar builds fine engines is way short sighted. Cummins Engine Co. is aggressive & successfully competitive with Caterpillar, overtaking the Class-8 truck market simply due to EPA certification problems. All Cummins Engines are EPA-Cert at least to Tier-III.

General Electric is also plagued with problems with the next emission-certifications to be applied...let alone the turbo problems that caused a massive recall of the Evolution Series production...that, however brief loss of available motive power will not be forgotten by the Class-1's.

Whatever Caterpillar & Progress Rail decides to do with EMD-built engines, made exclusively in-house in LaGrange, IL, US-America, will be the future for EMD.

 

[jadebullet]

EMD isn't built at La Grange anymore. It is built in Canada.

 

[backyard]

...no...

The prime mover is built exclusively at LaGrange, IL.

The long hood is built in Wisconsin, trucked to LaGrange for outfitting & both are trucked to London, Ontario, CA, where the locomotives are assembled(unless, Thoroughbred Locomotive Works(NS), or the EMD plant in San Potosi does the assembly, soon China & India will also be building them).

 

[nikos1]

India already builds its own EMD's in addition to ALCO's.
EMD is apparently opening a new plant in Muncie, IN, we will see what comes of that.

 

[backyard]

Passenger!

I hear the Muncie Plant(a takeover of a former manufacturing facility), may be the host of passenger locomotive production as well as rebuilds.

I don't know why London is skeptical on the acquisition, NAFTA allowed new production locomotives to pass the border without tariffs...about $70,000 per unit...

As for myself, I think I'm coming to a cut-off date, like the steamers did with the Diesel-electric takeover...

Everything is getting uglier by the year!:hehe:

Anyway, my eye is on what the future of the Series 12V710 engine brings...that engine is already capable of producing 3000hp(GP59).

 

[springtransit]

Read the topic and answer the question.

A: Increase the SD80MAC's Production
B: Make a 12 or 16 cylinder 3000hp engine
C: Designate the SD9043ac an SD75mac.
D: Make some more booster units. (I like booster units and high hood units.)

E: ALL OF THE ABOVE!!

 

[backyard]

....

A. Since the SD80 is a "Twenty-cylinder Locomotive," @5000+hp, I think the market settled for the SD70. @-4350hp, they are considered 4500 because of the enhanced tractive effort technology.

B. The current EMD Series 12V710 produces 3000-hp, only used in the GP59. The SD89Mac, also uses the same engine & rating, however no interest was expressed, never went out as a demo.

C. Apples vs. oranges...

D. I like that too...

I do think that there is a lot of redundancy in naming nomenclatures today.

SD means "Special Duty," but also designates 6-axle. How many spartan-cab locomotives have been produced after the IC, Conrail & NS SD70? So why the "M?"

I used to think after the development of AC would obsolete DC locomotives, but that's not the case...but I do think any number past 70 will be AC.

The SD90-H, was called an SD90MAC-H by railfans, but the builders plate says SD90-H.

Railroads have forsaken the 4-axle road switcher for the SD. They justify this by letting shortlines have the non-profitable lighter rail branch lines....and switching local freights with SD's. The shortlines in turn buy the four-axle trade-outs.

The last 4-axle production units were the GP60 & Dash-840B....but I wonder...

The passenger locomotives of the future will be 4-axle. I would like to see the F-unit styling brought back, like Chevy did.