ugly trains

How about this:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/it/electric/historic/E428/misc/428109.jpg

They were then rebuilt into this:

220px-Locomotore_E428_226.jpg


BTW, is that tram supposed to work by those arms grabbing the sleepers of the track or something?
 
It looks like 5 to me, too. The wheels are really hard to see, so I'm looking at the little grey cylinders as axle locations. I think they're between the wheels, not near the axles, but they do draw the eyes and fool the mind.
I rode the Max Yamabiko to Sendai. It's not the prettiest train, but it's got a great ride.

:cool:Claude
 
David111767 said:
Enkidoh said:
It's actually a 2-Do-2
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How could it be a "Do" in the middle? "Do" or "D" stands for a 4 axel truck when the loco has a 5 axel truck.
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I assure you, it is a 2-Do-2. The 4 centre axles do not swivel (it's not a bogie or truck), but are mounted rigidly in the frame, just like a steam locomotive. It was designed to spread the locomotive's weight over a larger area in order to travel over the lightly laid track that made up the bulk of the West Australian government rail network at the time.

Ironically enough, because of this rigidity, the X class were restricted from running on some lines, which had really sharp curves (such as the famous Hotham Valley line). Anyway, for those still not convinced about it's bizarre wheel arrangement (I admit the photo does mislead the eye), this is the engineering outline drawing for the X class which shows 4 centre axles:

http://www.hothamvalleyrailway.com.au/X_Outline_162kb.jpg
 
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From what I am aware of, those mysterious 'cylinders' are suspension springs for the powered axles. The poor quality of the photo doesn't show them very clearly sadly.

There's a photo on the Hotham Valley Railway website (where the engineering diagram is hosted on) which shows one of the X class wheelsets up close, complete with springs, but I'm not sure if it's one of the motor axles or one of the unpowered axles on the bogies under the cabs. Either way, here's the pic: http://www.hothamvalleyrailway.com.au/XA_Wheel__Axle_box.jpg

As for an X class in Trainz, I know someone did a Paintshed reskin of a European loco as an X class in Westrail livery, but it looks nothing like an X (the wheel arrangement is completely wrong for starters). As a West Aussie Trainz user I'd love to see one made properly in Trainz though (I'd make it myself, but sadly with my complete lack of 3D modelling skills I just wouldn't do it justice). ;)

EDIT: looking through my photos the cylinders are indeed coil springs. In this photo taken of recently restored XA 1402 'Targari' you can see the springs at wheel level quite clearly: http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss258/Enkidoh_Roux/Picture012.jpg (WARNING, it's a VERY large image, as I didn't have time to resize it).
 
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That's so adorably ugly. And I'm playing with 42" gauge, so it would look "nice" on my layout!
I could model it, but I can't get locomotives to show up in Trainz. When I get more time I'll have to try again. I'd like to expand my skills a little.

:cool:Claude
 
That livery would be really hard to keep clean. White paint is notorious for getting dirty very very quickly. They probably send it through the coach wash three times a day. :p
 
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