jadebullet
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Does anyone know of a tutorial on creating HTML for TRS. There has to be one out there somewhere.
TS2010 Session making competition - feedback
- Thread starter JamesMoody
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An excelant guide or example on how to dismiss the driver if driver dose something wrong, can be found by looking at the defualt session for built in route ECML Kings Cross York the session is HST Southbound express. You may even be able to use his built in html items
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Neuraldancer
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I consider that session a winner. You people deserve the no1 prize of this "competition".
Hello, what's the problem about. Very often we hear that then became boring.
In TS we have two approach:
-Limited session
-Unlimited session
-Driver mode where you run the train
-AI mode where trains run without your help
I prefer unlimited session with AI trais, Auran in this competition wish to see limited session in driver mode and some AI trains for ''making'' traffic. I agree, it's the correct decision. Why?
Last year start era with big routes, bigger was better was. But in practice
1.we see that this routes are not accurate enough, always is something missing. If we look ECML, which is for me the best route i ever run, we will find track connection problems, route splines problems and very rare, almost never, signals problem, if you use driver mode. AI trains are very short time on the route, this is the easy way how to make the route and simple session. But when you put in AI trains you find that route is not prepare for this kind of running and the signals must be changed. Same is with Avery route
2.problem arise with AI trains. I think that programme is not capable to run the big number of AI trains, if you wish to run them unlimited. In big route you can set in 20,30 or more AI trains without problem, because the route has enough space. I found that after 12-14 AI trains, the problems are shown and grows up when the second ''round'' (repeat) of tasks start
About boring
Railway run cargo from A to B and obey timetable. That's the basic function.
In TS we have this function covered well enough and we have simple scoring too.
And what we do in practice, We run our train in driver mode, see time to time Ai train and we run....If we have the session with AI train then we observe the behaviour of trains.....
[FONT="]And we don't know what is going on the route. Scoring is a little step in this way to see what we were done. This don't disturb me, of course, if we would have a little more economy ( not money but only quantity) it would be much better.[/FONT]
regards
celje
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I hate to be complaining all the time, but I have just discovered that Portal Basic Short has known problems, yet it is used exclusively on several of the "approved built-in" routes for this contest. Why don't you just tie both arms behind our backs and ask us to create quality sessions? Your contest rules seem to be poorly thought out. Any chance I can replace the portals with ones that work and still have the route and session qualify?
David
David
Ever try to lay any kind of track in the session layer? When you go to save the session, it wants to save the route as well. The Layer tool has some limitations.
This is post #49. I think you miss understood him. Sure you can add anything to the session layer but things like objects,tracks, and track objects. After adding any of these like Dap has said makes you have to save to a new map therefore its not built-in anymore. The only thing other then locos/rollingstock that you can add to a session layer and not have to save to a new route. Are triggers, trackmarks, and direction/priority mark.
Even with the extended date I still only see maybe 5 or so people entering this contest. There are so many hurdles just getting the maps to work let alone making a challenging and meeting the requirements for a session.
And no I haven't nor will I quit.
hert:wave:
>???> Check out my latest session which needs some fine tuning. However the portal is in the session not the route.
there are those that say no you cannot, I just play :hehe: :hehe:
Might not have got $1000 but at least there are a few more sessions going up now, Which i guess is what they wanted.
Ho by the way my newest session has scoring that works for thoses that want a working example. In the test layout I put all the triggers in 3 rule and it worked fine. In the actual layout I had to do it 1 trigger 1 rule... Maybe small size of the layout. Thanks gose to trev999 for help on scoring
I apologize that i'm late, i was out of the house
Dap and hert
Look thread ''Layers'' = Lame by acbdfaqoz (#26,#27,#28) and thread Layer quickstart guide by wreeder ( maybe #71 there is the answer) and Dap, download my sessions ''ECML AI freight and passenger'' and ''Avery-Drexel AI trains''. Both are on DLS.
Layers are demanding for use but it's possible to do almost everything.
Dap and hert
Look thread ''Layers'' = Lame by acbdfaqoz (#26,#27,#28) and thread Layer quickstart guide by wreeder ( maybe #71 there is the answer) and Dap, download my sessions ''ECML AI freight and passenger'' and ''Avery-Drexel AI trains''. Both are on DLS.
Layers are demanding for use but it's possible to do almost everything.
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I'd like to believe what you are saying about layers, but I have not had the same experience you are having. Here is what I am doing.
1. In the route window, I select CN Holly Subdivision.
2. I click on Sessions in the lower right hand corner.
3. I select edit session - any session.
4. When the route/session is opened, I check to make sure I am on the session level.
5. I go to an area that is level and add a section of track that is not connected to nor anywhere near any other piece of track.
6. I then click on Save As. I get a window with the top green button lit that says Save New Route and Session. The lower green button is not active.
You must be running a different version of Trainz, or I have something set different than you, because I cannot add any track to the session level without being asked to save a new version of the route.
Any Suggestions?
I am running build 44088.
Thanks,
David
1. In the route window, I select CN Holly Subdivision.
2. I click on Sessions in the lower right hand corner.
3. I select edit session - any session.
4. When the route/session is opened, I check to make sure I am on the session level.
5. I go to an area that is level and add a section of track that is not connected to nor anywhere near any other piece of track.
6. I then click on Save As. I get a window with the top green button lit that says Save New Route and Session. The lower green button is not active.
You must be running a different version of Trainz, or I have something set different than you, because I cannot add any track to the session level without being asked to save a new version of the route.
Any Suggestions?
I am running build 44088.
Thanks,
David
Hello Dap
I have 44088 too
About 4- are you type the name of the new layer, e,g. test
About 5- are you read the Smileyman post #26 and outside the mainline add a small piece of track, i usually take PT straight 10m, (it is in Objects) and then made connection with ''living'', existing spline point on the mainline
About 6- i don't use 'save us' but ctrl+f2
You must be pricise and made all steps correct as i advice in #71.
If you will observe my two sessions, all changes i made with HP track
I hope that you will succeed.
regards
celje
I have 44088 too
About 4- are you type the name of the new layer, e,g. test
About 5- are you read the Smileyman post #26 and outside the mainline add a small piece of track, i usually take PT straight 10m, (it is in Objects) and then made connection with ''living'', existing spline point on the mainline
About 6- i don't use 'save us' but ctrl+f2
You must be pricise and made all steps correct as i advice in #71.
If you will observe my two sessions, all changes i made with HP track
I hope that you will succeed.
regards
celje
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David,
Can you not just click on the lower button and enter a session name. That is how it works for me. I admit the dialog is a bit confusing.
William
Edit: The other thing that confuses old timers is that if you use the properties tool to rename an asset on the route layer the game thinks the route has been changed. To the best of my memory, it used to save information that to the session in older versions.
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The lower button does not work. I click and click and nothing happens. My testing is exactly as described above. No side trips, no setting properties, simply opening a route/session, making sure I am on the session layer, laying a short piece of track not connected to or near any other track, and then trying to save the session. Everytime Trainz wants to save a new route and the lower button to save any other way does not work. Neither Save or Save-As allows me to just save the session after I have laid a piece of track while in any session layer.
I usually lock the route layer, just to make sure that I do not disturb anything there. I have tested whether locking the session layer affects the Save issue and it does not. I have tried this on several routes including Avery- Drexel, Downtown Traction Co, CN Holly Subdivision, CSX Saginaw Subdivision and Springfield Industrial District as well as a couple routes of my own creation.
On my computer running TRS2010, build 44088, laying track in a session layer forces you to save a new route or overwrite the existing route. So, I choose overwrite the existing route. I then ? click on the track I have laid and it is in the session layer.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Would that I could lay track in the session layer without having to save a new version of the route.
David
Dap say '' laying a short piece of track'' and this is mistake.
If you use track or spline then TS demand to save new route.
But if you use object, e.g. tree, house, FT straight 10m, then TS demand to save 'New session'.
Yes, TS in build 44088 don't allow 'Overwrite existing session' anymore and this is the problem of 44088 we are talking about in the post #131.
celje
If you use track or spline then TS demand to save new route.
But if you use object, e.g. tree, house, FT straight 10m, then TS demand to save 'New session'.
Yes, TS in build 44088 don't allow 'Overwrite existing session' anymore and this is the problem of 44088 we are talking about in the post #131.
celje
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