It's not, it's a new model.I dare say its the payware model by Paul Hobbs. The Small tank engine shunter
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Trainz Classics 3rd Edition "Settle-Carlisle"
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Harry_James_Potter
General Thrash
At last...
A Trainz Classics I might actually buy and hopefully, it will bring much improved steam physics and support
regards
Harry
Harry_James_Potter
General Thrash
Although my views on Trainz Classics have been made in other threads I may buy TC3 as the route is of interest (note the publicity says it goes from Skipton to Carlisle rather than just the Settle to Carlisle of the default MSTS route). There is also a nice selection of motive power and rolling stock - I'm taking a stab that the two mystery diesels will be a Class 40 and Class 44/45/46 Peak (though I may be wrong).
However the pack is of interest to me for the content not the TC concept. That remains, IMHO, how this project should have been approached so the route and content could either be run standalone or added into TRS2006 in a similar manner to the West Somerset Railway along with any patches to the core programme, rather than the mish mash we are getting.
However the pack is of interest to me for the content not the TC concept. That remains, IMHO, how this project should have been approached so the route and content could either be run standalone or added into TRS2006 in a similar manner to the West Somerset Railway along with any patches to the core programme, rather than the mish mash we are getting.
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skiingiggy
gone
This is actually interesting nd i may get it after l;ooking at all of the stuff. Now all we need is a TC for the golden age of steam here in the USA lol
No good news! (not at all at least)
It seems that those guys who said TC will be something like selling Service Packs were right. I'm not against the new principle in general, it was time to get rid of all the build-in content and to offer such specialised editions.
But now we will face more and more problems. When TC was announced Auran told us something like "Well, if someone doesn't like a certain edition there will be no need to buy it." That would be no problem if not every new TC brings new features that are not implemented in older versions. I think that a lot of Trainzers are only interested in Trainz itself using their own downloads to customise it. To use all downloads you need to be up to date which you are no longer if TC 3 will be some "2.8 #who-knows".
How could I forget that TC sells at a lower price than a full version? Because you are forced to buy all of them with little improvements only. If this new idea of selling Service Packs (Yes, I'd call it rather TRS2006 SP2 [minus build-in content plus route and rolling stock].) stays, more and more people will see their Trainzing endangered.
I do not want to sound too harsh but in the moment I have immense doubts whether this is the best way for Trainz's future.
It seems that those guys who said TC will be something like selling Service Packs were right. I'm not against the new principle in general, it was time to get rid of all the build-in content and to offer such specialised editions.
But now we will face more and more problems. When TC was announced Auran told us something like "Well, if someone doesn't like a certain edition there will be no need to buy it." That would be no problem if not every new TC brings new features that are not implemented in older versions. I think that a lot of Trainzers are only interested in Trainz itself using their own downloads to customise it. To use all downloads you need to be up to date which you are no longer if TC 3 will be some "2.8 #who-knows".
How could I forget that TC sells at a lower price than a full version? Because you are forced to buy all of them with little improvements only. If this new idea of selling Service Packs (Yes, I'd call it rather TRS2006 SP2 [minus build-in content plus route and rolling stock].) stays, more and more people will see their Trainzing endangered.
I do not want to sound too harsh but in the moment I have immense doubts whether this is the best way for Trainz's future.
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skiingiggy
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Well if trainz goes under at auran, my site will still stay strong with our few members and stick with 06 and where possible o4.... and we have almost all topics here so people can oin us if need be.... But BTW: If auran release TC Routes that eople actually want it may stay strong, but i think you are right: TC is making Trainz;s Fiture very unclear.
PVincent342
New member
or maybe lightweight coaches wont have seats that go sideways :l
Boobless_ed
Will this do?
We're getting a 94 mile route, eleven locos, much of which we've never had the chance to drive in TRS, a whole new set of rolling stock, plus a host of other updates to the game engine.
This is for a price that isn't that far off many payware routes.
I think it'll be well worthwhile.
This is for a price that isn't that far off many payware routes.
I think it'll be well worthwhile.
zatovisualworks
Veteran but blossoming
IMVHO, it could be if TC is not the target but the way to get funds to future research, development and releases. Let's be realistic, who pay for new products and inventions? Customers who buy the previous ones. That's life in business and that will be so.
The only doubt underlies if Brisbane team really considers this TC stage as a target or as passageway to something new.
As a long time customer, contributor and supporter of Trainz and the Brisbane team, I must say that I was impressed by TRS2006 but not by TC at all on the first and second instalments.
By buying TC I'll keep supporting this Trainz adventure which gives me glorious moments of fun but... for sure some of the TC chapters will be kept stored and untouched over here. Maybe I've been a trainzer for too long and it's being addictive. I'd lie if I told you I'm happy with TC, but my hope is it is just a temporary passageway.
In some other posts I stated that I didn't think the Brisbane team to be deaf and blind to things happening over here and out there in the troubled waters of train gaming competition. I believe it still, until facts prove the opposite.
I think it was Rob (my apologies if not) who said we hardcore trainzers are not their main bulk target market. I agree; we are loyal customers but not eternal, and ageing is unforgiving for everybody, people and games.
Take care and notice,
Have a good weekend, fellow trainzers.
Alberte
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ex-railwayman
New member
Hello Vern, reading what Lance has printed and what is on the UKRailSim website, I would hazard a guess that the mystery diesel loco's will be 2 Class 40's similar to the built-in ones on TRS. One with a centre headcode box and the other with split boxes, both in green livery like the Class 37's. :hehe:
However the route sounds interesting, although as was mentioned previously by euphod it is a bleak and desolate part of our country, I would have thought that a winter version might have offered a bit more enjoyment IMHO.
Cheerz. ex-railwayman.
zatovisualworks
Veteran but blossoming
No more desolation, please. Harlem line is enough, and we have wonderful grass creators over here.
Grass by Good Old Vendie and Roberto Conti on Zatoburgo Plains... :hehe:
[FONT=Courier, Courier New](From Bob Dylan's 'Desolation Row')
They're selling postcards of the hanging
They're painting the passports brown
The beauty parlor is filled with sailors
The circus is in town
Here comes the blind commissioner
They've got him in a trance
One hand is tied to the tight-rope walker
The other is in his pants
And the riot squad they're restless
They need somewhere to go
As Lady and I look out tonight
From Desolation Row[/FONT]
Alberte
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They don't, in TRS2004 (which they were designed for). Auran broke the feature when they changed the way in which animations were handled in TRS2006.
Harry_James_Potter
General Thrash
Hands up here who plays the The Sims 2?
If you've bought some or all the add-ons that come with it, well done. If you're also the ones who are also moaning about the way that Auran do business with TC, then you're a hypocrite.
Almost every single expansion pack for The Sims 2 has not only added a bit of new functionality but has also acted as a great big product update.
regards
Harry
builder300544
Wrong side of 65
Hands up here who plays the The Sims 2?
If you've bought some or all the add-ons that come with it, well done. If you're also the ones who are also moaning about the way that Auran do business with TC, then you're a hypocrite.
Almost every single expansion pack for The Sims 2 has not only added a bit of new functionality but has also acted as a great big product update.
The problem to me is that the TC series is not an add on to existing trains. I would have been a lot happier if it was. I would have no objection to paying for add ons to the existing game.
Regards, John
If you've bought some or all the add-ons that come with it, well done. If you're also the ones who are also moaning about the way that Auran do business with TC, then you're a hypocrite.
Almost every single expansion pack for The Sims 2 has not only added a bit of new functionality but has also acted as a great big product update.
The problem to me is that the TC series is not an add on to existing trains. I would have been a lot happier if it was. I would have no objection to paying for add ons to the existing game.
Regards, John
johnchisem
Mr Grumpy
NO! NO! NO! NO! I have not played the Sims and I do not watch Big Brother, but then again I think that I do have a life! I'm not on here long this morning as I'm off up to Hellifield to get the water pipes out. When the 8F arrives I'm having another jolly up to Carlisle and back. When the tender is refilled it's time to put the pipes are put away and it's home to see Mrs C I must remember to look out for the desolate landscape on the trip, all I seem to recall is some rather nice scenery!
It looks like I will be buying TC after all, not bad for a confirmed Luddite.
John
I must remember to look out for the desolate landscape on the trip, all I seem to recall is some rather nice scenery!It looks like I will be buying TC after all, not bad for a confirmed Luddite.
John
amigacooke
Well-known member
So TC 3 is focussed on British steam. Mark me up as another potential sale.
Is there any indication of when this is due to be published?
Is there any indication of when this is due to be published?
