Signalman65
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Thanks I will probable go ahead I bought it so I might as well us it, the thing that worried me was that you can't uninstall back to 7, you have to do a complete reinstall of 7.
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That’s nothing new no matter what Windows OS it is or Linux distribution for that matter. Even if it was possible I’d never recommend it you’d be left some compromised, botched OS.
A full OS install is the only way to go if you want to get the most out of it as far as stability/performance is concerned.
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If you are using it primarily for gaming on the PC and want a better optimized version of Windows 7 it’s proving to be a wonderful choice also.
Not according to most benchmark tests I have read, no significant difference in performance. Windows 8 is just awkward to work with and that is the reason that the chief designer of 8 was fired one month after it was released. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-8-gaming-performance,3331-13.html
What tests? How exactly is it awkward?
Lol, it’s so awkward even a 3 year old can use it, how about you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dlZgcAacIxU
The link I posted which you obviously didn't take the time to look at, included page after page of comparisons of Windows 7 vs Windows 8 benchmarks for different games. If you like Windows 8, I am afraid you are in the minority, at least as reported by reviewers across the world like this article in PC Mag. But you probably won't read that either
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2017110/windows-8-does-its-1-month-report-card-read-pass-or-fail.htmlhttp://www.zdnet.com/usability-expe...g-for-both-novice-and-power-users-7000007599/
Now the question of the day, is, Who is working the mouse in the video??????
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/11/20/windows-8-killed-my-pc/
http://www.zdnet.com/usability-expe...g-for-both-novice-and-power-users-7000007599/
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Just watched that AMAZING (cough!!) video. I doubt it was genuine. At no time did you actually see the 3 year old using the computer. And what was done was guided - mm I wonder if the chap as also guiding the mouse?
Have to add I beta tested Win 8 - the same as I did Win7. There is no comparison. Win8 is designed for a young gamer not an adult trying to a job of work for their living.
I work in a pretty high tech company, and we have about 6 PC's that are used by our QC staff. they put Windows 8 on one of these PC's, and it never gets used. Everyone uses the Windows 7 machines.
The link you posted is just one of the many so-called benchmarks that can be found all over the internet, nothing special.
What they show is the same thing that took place when Windows 7 was first released. Some games performed better on Vista/SP2 and some performed better with Windows 7. The long list of optimizations that MS made in Windows 8 are not planned for Windows 7 so just like we’ve seen in the past with other versions of Windows, Win8 will take the performance lead. Like I said before if MS would release a service pack 2 for Windows 7 that included the performance changes that we’ve seen in Windows 8 I might not be using Win8 (although I’ve never been afraid to try any new OS).
Here’s a list of sims/games I’ve used on Windows 8 Pro 64 so far which either performed slightly better (faster loading) than Windows 7 or the same.
iRacing, Project CARS, rFactor2, Game Stock Car 2012, Prepar3D, X-Plane 10, FSX, FS2004, aeroflyFS, TS2012, TS2013, MSTS, OpenRails and Outerra.
It’s a joke to show how some adult’s can’t deal with change, but as far as the mouse is concerned who cares with Windows 8 I hardly use the mouse anymore.
Lol, if you’re using a PC for work why would you be gaming on it to begin with? I use hot swappable drive bays with my setups and usually have 4-5 different Linux and Windows OS’s going at one time but I don’t work and game on the same OS.
So what do you think, is playing with choo-choo Trainz for a young gamer or is it adult work?
Well obviously you are an expert on Os's and Windows, so let us know when you write an article and do some benchmark tests of your own. In the mean time I think I will get my information from these folks. http://twit.tv/show/windows-weekly/293
http://winsupersite.com/
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Well I went to all the links you guys put up, read all. True you didn't really see the kid actually moving the mouse. I am not a gamer, I fact except for Trainz I don't play games, well unless you include Card games, or my Puzzle program. I use my computer for surfing, email, Trainz, Drawing, modeling, and writing stories, and of course watching Movies, either with streaming from Netflix or other on line sources. I also use it for photos. Am I going to have problems doing these things with Win 8 Pro? Eventually I assume 7 will be past history, and I want to stay up to date.
One of them misunderstandings that's been around since the days of the 80286 - Joe Business goes to Radio Shack and buys two computers, the most expensive one they have for the office and the cheapest one for home "just to play games on". Unless it's CAD or graphic design the cheap system will handle spreadsheets, docs, pie charts and bar graphs just fine, computer games have always been more resource hungry than the average office work, so the gaming computer has always needed MORE power than a work computer, not less.
The things you mention, probably will easily be done on a tablet, which is the direction that MS is heading. MS feels that in a few years, the desktop will be disappearing, and that is what they had in mind when they designed Windows 8. Windows 7 will be around for years, because businesses are not interested in switching to Windows 8.
And computers designed for simulation, which is the field that I worked in for almost 20 years, have to have the highest capability of any of them. Computers that we worked with were Silicon Graphics and compared to to a PC , was like comparing a Toyota Corolla to a Maserati.
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First of all I am 76 years old, have bought only one prebuilt computer in last 15 years. I but together all my other ones. I do not like Tablets, or laptops, I want to be able to add things to my PC, since I can't afford to buy full blown on my income. So I will be using a desk top till I die. You can take all those socially ordinated crap and put them in a box tie them with a ribbon and throw them in the deep blue sea. ( as the song goes. lol )
I never claimed to be an expert on OS’s, I’m just not afraid to learn or try something new. As I mentioned above I’ve already tested the sims/games I use the most on Windows 8. I have multiple copies of Windows XP (32 and 64-bit), Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 so whatever OS I discover performs best with a particular game/sim I use. That’s what’s great about having choices, I just try it instead of coming up with ways to justify something I don’t have or don’t have experience in using.
Designed for what kind of simulation? What makes it so demanding?
I’ve used simulation software at work that the railroad industry relies on to accurately simulate in-train forces (among other things) as just one example that ran on your typical off the shelf hardware. I’ve also used and have been involved in the development of full blown engineer training simulators that also used high end off the shelf computer components.
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Sorry! I really did not intend to start a argument in here.
To answer your question yes you can do all the same things, just may have to relearn how to do it using the Metro stuff or you can have Win8 without the touch screen interface with this simple registry hack http://techmell.com/how-to/disable-metro-ui-windows-8/ and carry on as normal. Personally I'm sticking to Win7 for now, it works well for what I use it for and having played with the preview, I don't need any of the new stuff none of which is actually any use to me. It may well be to others though, each to thier own.
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