TANE SP4 how do I delete routes

Ighten

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I seem to have haphazardly downloaded a lot of stuff whilst the christmas pass is in action to try things out.. However Im quickly filling the SDD and cant for the life of me remember how to delete a route ... HELP
 
If you delete Routes using CM then you will also have to manually delete any Sessions and saved Driver Games that are dependencies of the Routes. If you delete Routes using the Main Menu that will automatically delete any Sessions and saved Driver Games that are dependencies of the Routes.
 
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OK Im missing something obvious here - in the main menu if i highlight a route I only have create session or edit session as options at the bottom
 
It might be a bit more complicated


if you downloaded a route and sessions and did nothing after, its ok you can just remove them in CM
but if you have downloaded all additional dependencies of the route you can be in big trouble.
this can be a lot of content from the DLS or elsewhere.
To fully clean up you have to make a complicated cleanup filter in Content Manager


In all 21 years, there is sadly no Trainz version yet that fully cleans up when you delete a route.


other places to check if you need space back:
Local/backups (here I have set it to only 1 backup day)
Local/cache/internet, holds .cdp of things you once downloaded
Local/cache/thumbnails, insane amount of .jpg
 
OK Im missing something obvious here - in the main menu if i highlight a route I only have create session or edit session as options at the bottom

That's odd. Are you sure the routes you a highlighting are installed? "Featured" Routes "to be" installed are shown too. In my Tane (SP4) if a route is installed there is a "Delete Route" at bottom also with the Create and Edit. If a route is NOT installed the "Delete" does not appear. Select the Routes one at a time and see if you don't ave a mix of installed and not installed. (Apologies if I'm stating the "obvious" but my own brain sometimes goes into "lock" mode. Especially in Tane because I'm not in it as much as '19.
 
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Coal County is Blue fully installed and working fine - no delete button (not that I would want to delete this one) but I use this as an example.. Totally confused now
 
Well... I do have brain lock! I also have some installed routes that now don't provide a "Delete" option in game.

EDIT: The only routes I'm getting a "Delete" option for is 3rd party content...
 
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It might be a bit more complicated


if you downloaded a route and sessions and did nothing after, its ok you can just remove them in CM
but if you have downloaded all additional dependencies of the route you can be in big trouble.
this can be a lot of content from the DLS or elsewhere.
To fully clean up you have to make a complicated cleanup filter in Content Manager


In all 21 years, there is sadly no Trainz version yet that fully cleans up when you delete a route.


other places to check if you need space back:
Local/backups (here I have set it to only 1 backup day)
Local/cache/internet, holds .cdp of things you once downloaded
Local/cache/thumbnails, insane amount of .jpg


Thanks G.M, and how about obsolete content ?
 
Thats where it even gets harder, must admit I have not figured it out :-)


-built-in obsolete, tough luck it cannot be removed, means every update to a built-in item is guaranteed polution
-obsolete (from DLS or external), in essence the kuid2 system should deal with it
but if in routeA kuid2:xxxxx:yyyyy:1 is used and in routeB kuid2:xxxxx:yyyyy:2
I don't dare to throw away the v1, if people say its safe, I will try
 
A bigger SSD will be a good thing, but you need to also solve the issue right now.

You can't delete built-in or DLC content because that's kept in package files. These are all-in-one files that contain not only the routes and sessions, but also the other assets. What you can delete are those things you create, download from the DLS, or install from a 3rd party site such as Jointed Rail.

There are a number of things you can address here without going for the extra expense and deleting routes unless you want to.

The first place I would check is the backups folder which is located where your data is installed. For most people, this is under C:\users\<your login>\App data\local\N3V Games\TANE\Build xxxxxx. The xxxxx refers to some letter-number combination.

The Backups folder is arranged in folders by date and there can be up to 7 backup-days in the backups folder. The current one I have in my backups folder is 21-12-14 and is in YY-MM-DD format.

Every time you open up a route, even to look at it in Surveyor, touch any content, or delete an asset, a backup is made of it. With the size of the assets becoming larger and larger, the space can get eaten up pretty fast!

By default, the setting for the backups is 7-days. You can change this to something less by going to the Launcher, clicking on Trainz settings then the Dev tab.

The folders themselves can be deleted from the backups folder manually and you should do this first before adjusting your settings.

As G.M. mentioned the other place to look is the Internet cache folder. This is located under the cache folder in your user data folder. This folder contains everything you have downloaded and does get purged, but probably not enough which leads to a disk space issue on some systems.

Once you've cleared these locations, check your disk space again. I'm sure you'll be happy. I recommend running a TRIM operation once you clean up your SSD. This helps with the data management and performance on the drive and can be done by running Defrag.

Now regarding out-of-date and obsolete assets.

Out-of-date assets mean there is a new version available for installation. Obsolete means the old one is installed still and can be removed. You may also see obsolete on the DLS. This means that a new asset is available for download and the older version is still there. We can't manage the DLS so unless you need the old version instead, you can ignore that.

Built-in and DLC assets are periodically updated with new versions from the DLS. The space occupied by the old assets does not change because they are installed in compressed files located in sub-folders under packages. Being built-in, or in those compressed files, we can't delete them so ignore them.

When it comes to asset management, we recommend you update the out-of-date assets and delete the obsolete ones. Once you set your backups to a reasonable level, you can worry less about disk space, but periodically go in and clean that up as we all do.
 
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