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FEF-2s and FEF-3s were dimensionally identical, only materials were different. If your FEF-3 has a feedwater heater, the only thing needed to change it to an FEF-2 is change the number (and maybe remove the deflectors).

-Ben
 
FEF-2s and FEF-3s were dimensionally identical, only materials were different. If your FEF-3 has a feedwater heater, the only thing needed to change it to an FEF-2 is change the number (and maybe remove the deflectors).

-Ben

While it is true that the fef-2s and fef-3s were quite similar, they were not 100% identical. The fef-2s used a drop-style (as logybear rather blatently pointed out IMO.) "cow catcher" or "pilot" which is different than the fef-3. The piping was also different. But other than that, yes, they were nearly identical.
 
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uh dude, no. The pilot needs to be the drop style for it to be like the real FEF-2.

I'm gonna put this straight because I'm oh so positive you did your research before posting that comment Logybear. First of all, I want you to go back and look at USSc1798s screenshots. I clearly see a drop coupler on the FEF-2. I'm positive you double checked the screenshots before posting, right? Now for a little history lesson. You may not be going to middle school over the summer but you can still learn something. In 1939 when the Union Pacific constructed their FEF-2 class they utilized the same drop-coupled design as the older CSA Challengers. When the Big Boys came around, they introduced the rotating coupler pilot design that was adopted for the late Challengers and FEF-3s. Some FEF-2s where refitted with rotating coupler pilots like the FEF-3s, at the same time they got twin smokestacks, elephant ears, feed water heaters, and many more things I'm sure you'll complain about. Where can you find all this information you might ask? Books. Read them.
 
Actually none of the FEF-2's got the rotating coupler box according to the Sr. Manager of the UP Steam Operations Ed Dickens. And Yes he gave mea book of 2500 pages on just the FEF Series Locomotives.
 
And to you, sir, I prescribe some sunlight and far less concentration on details I'm sure are going to be fixed.

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Actually none of the FEF-2's got the rotating coupler box according to the Sr. Manager of the UP Steam Operations Ed Dickens. And Yes he gave mea book of 2500 pages on just the FEF Series Locomotives.
Either way it's a freaking plow. I'm sure USSc1798 has everything under control, with a model that good I'm sure he's done his research and knows exactly what is needed to make it prototypical. Keep up the good work USSC, the only thing I would say is tone down the specular and bump maps just a little bit.

-Ben
 
Either way it's a freaking plow. I'm sure USSc1798 has everything under control, with a model that good I'm sure he's done his research and knows exactly what is needed to make it prototypical. Keep up the good work USSC, the only thing I would say is tone down the specular and bump maps just a little bit.

-Ben

If logybear has 2500 pages of information on the fef classes, why hasnt he built one yet? Lmao keep er goin USSC.
 
Either way it's a freaking plow. I'm sure USSc1798 has everything under control, with a model that good I'm sure he's done his research and knows exactly what is needed to make it prototypical. Keep up the good work USSC, the only thing I would say is tone down the specular and bump maps just a little bit.

-Ben
Thanks for the tip!

I have heard it from several sources that the specularity on the locos was too high. After reducing the specularity, I had to agree.
looking back at some of the previous pics, the specularity did seem quite harsh to the eyes... Anyway, Here is a pic with the reduced specularity.
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keep er goin USSC.
Thanks!
Also, feel free to just call me Austin.

One more thing, Nice shots Norm!
 
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Thanks for the tip!

I have heard it from several sources that the specularity on the locos was too high. After reducing the specularity, I had to agree.
looking back at some of the previous pics, the specularity did seem quite harsh to the eyes... Anyway, Here is a pic with the reduced specularity.


Also, while I have done my research, that does no necessarily mean that I havnt added


Thanks!
Also, feel free to just call me Austin.

One more thing, Nice shots Norm!

That, my friend, looks amazing. Keep it up!! I'm feeling the urge to dig out my FEF-1 diagrams now!

-Ben
 
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I have heard it from several sources that the specularity on the locos was too high. After reducing the specularity, I had to agree.
looking back at some of the previous pics, the specularity did seem quite harsh to the eyes... Anyway, Here is a pic with the reduced specularity.
I would reduce specularity even more, and at least darken the color a touch. A few tips to making models look nice I've found over the years:
-Make the specular color a little off-white, because pure white seems "plasticky" no matter what.
-for Blender, a hardness of about 300-500 should serve you well.
-m.tbumptex textures are useful, because a properly formed normal map will help give the effect of wavy or imperfect shine on a model. This is essential for realism. If you can spare the investment, CrazyBump is your friend. I can send you a picture of the settings I prefer if you decide to get it. Otherwise you can try and use Blender's normal map baking function (note this requires a "difference" mesh that probably isn't worth your time to build) or any other number of programs designed to help create normal maps.
 
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