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[jmariocgii]

lol that was the route I was using and by resizing I need help on making the picture larger

 

[Railwoodman]

Matt

 

[evilcrow]

re Post #2882 Railwoodman,
Hello Matt,
NKP loco looking good,
any news on your GB route endeavours?.
Cheers Ken

 

[normhart]

2500 tons in tow.

 

[daylightrain]

Maintenance train:

 

[normhart]

 

[cascaderailroad]

What is that view from ? A caboose ? Please post more shots of that railcar/loco

 

[tigerko15]

looks like a doghouse from a K&L PRR Steam Engine

 

[normhart]

looks like a doghouse from a K&L PRR Steam Engine

:hehe: What are you, some kinda detective?:hehe:

That is the view from the doghouse of the PRR M1b Tender by K&L Trainz, very nice!

 

[normhart]

Yard shots like this would be impossible without Majekear's thousands of rail cars. Thank you!

 

[daylightrain]

Doubleheading is quite fun

 

[normhart]

Of course if you're big enough you never need to double head.

B&O EM-1



Locomotive by PaulzTrainz

 

[daylightrain]

Of course if you're big enough you never need to double head.

 

[ktain.ny]

Realisticly, norm is right.

the UP ordered the 4000 big boys to solve that exact problem-- it really costly to run a challenger and an FEF together, but the big boys could pull the whole damn train, with just one crew.

however I have heard of double heading big boys during the Second World War for some really long trains.

 

[daylightrain]

Realisticly, norm is right.

the UP ordered the 4000 big boys to solve that exact problem-- it really costly to run a challenger and an FEF together, but the big boys could pull the whole damn train, with just one crew.

however I have heard of double heading big boys during the Second World War for some really long trains.

As far as I know the UP never doubleheaded Challengers and FEF's. The two locomotives where designed for two different roles on the railroad. The Challengers to be fast, powerful freight haulers and the FEFs to replace the older MT series Mountains on passenger trains. The FEF's where less efficient at the Challengers freight speed of 30-40mph and burned more fuel. They where much more suited to 50-60mph fast freights across the plains than over the mountainous lines. On passenger service, the UP did doublehead Challengers and FEF's, though. I've only seen FEF-1s doing it however it is likely the other FEF series did it as well.

Sidenote: UP 3985 and 844 have doubleheaded in the past, however not on freight so it is entirely possible to doublehead a Challenger and FEF.

Big Boys definitely did solve the multiple locomotive problem however even the biggest and best was not enough for the UP. Increase in traffic during WWII and into the post-war 1950's economic boom meant that the amount of freight needed to be moved was greater than one single locomotive could pull, even a 6,000+ HP 4000 class. Big Boy + Big Boy or Challenger + Big Boy doubleheading where rare sights however necessary. Some stories state that 2 Big Boys would lead a train with a 3rd pushing from the rear, however I don't know if this is true or not as a 4000 being used as a banker seems a waste of power. Oddly enough I don't think I've ever seen a Challenger + Challenger doubleheader, hmm...

Real life example: Big Boy + Big Boy UP 4004 and 4013:

Big Boy + Challenger UP 3991 and UP 4003

 

[flyboy559]

Challengers were used in double heading a lot. Somewhere I have seen video of a big boy pusher. That said, the challengers were used as pushers much more often.

 

[normhart]

To be honest I have no idea if the B&O EM-1s ever double headed or not.

 

[flyboy559]

It could be like on the SP where they felt that having two cab forwards doubleheading the train could cause the couplers to be pulled out of the front cars.

 

[Dcatrambone]

so sure it is

 

[Railwoodman]

Matt