Spinning Wheels N&W 4-8-0

[gb1290]

I have downloaded srr89's Norfolk & Western 4-8-0s (all versions) and I keep having the same issues with all of them that I can't figure out how to fix.

1) The drivers spin as though the locomotive is being held up in the air. I'll be moving at 5mph and the wheels will be spinning like I'm running the Cannonball Express. Is there a way to make the wheels move at the actual speed the loco is moving? I don't have this issue with other locomotives, so I don't think my game physics are screwy.

2) I also can't get water from the tender into the boiler. How do I make this happen? I open the injectors (manually with the mouse or by pressing "I") and nothing happens.

Your help with either or both questions is greatly appreciated!

 

[captainkman]

1. Open the bogies for edit in Explorer (via Content Manager) and open the config.txt file. If they have the line 'anim-loop speed', then remove it, save and Commit.

2. Make sure the tender has a queues container with coal and water in it. If not then copy the container from a similar tender that does have it.

I can explain either of those edits in greater detail if you wish.

I hope that helps.

Kieran.

 

[xcrossi]

OOPS Im to slow

Copied from old post

how do I stop a train from moving its wheels when stopped?
'anim-loop-speed 1'. Delete this line
If there's an anim "whatever.kin" line, delete it too
Also make sure an animdist tag and value is present and the .kin file is called anim.kin.

 

[captainkman]

If there's an anim "whatever.kin" line, delete it too
Also make sure an animdist tag and value is present and the .kin file is called anim.kin.

Good points, thanks for adding them in.

Kieran.

 

[gb1290]

Wheels - checked for the "anim-loop-speed" and did not find it. Just for kicks, I added one and nothing changed. I have since removed it again. There is something labeled "animdist" that is set to 4.2. Also, the anim.kin file is there and labeled correctly.

Tender - It is set to carry water and coal, but neither will enter the locomotive.

 

[Bill69]

What is the kuid number of this loco?

If I have it or can download it I'll have a look to see what the problem is.

Cheers,
Bill69

 

[gb1290]

The kuid for the loco is 313505:300 and the tender is 313505:3007.

I'm fairly certain I got it from Trainz ProRoutes and not the DLS.

Thanks to everyone for helping me out!

 

[Bill69]

Ok I'll have a look for it.

Bill69

 

[gb1290]

Bill, there should be one more "0" at the end of the loco's kuid!

 

[xcrossi]

HI Kieran.
Whenever I had or found a helpful post I copied and saved it to notebook.
Now I have a folder of "Posted Notes":hehe:

 

[captainkman]

HI Kieran.
Whenever I had or found a helpful post I copied and saved it to notebook.
Now I have a folder of "Posted Notes":hehe:

That is incredibly smart. I don't know why I never thought of doing that!

Back on topic: I too will have a look for the locomotive and see if I can find out what is going on. The animdist tag may be incorrectly set and for the second issue, I suspect the cab is to blame if the tender has a water and coal queue.

Kieran.

 

[Bill69]

Hi,

I can't find that kuid number. I have found three by robin-hoods but none by ssr89.

Cheers,
Bill69

 

[gb1290]

Oops...that's because they are on Trainz Commuter Rail, not ProRoutes.

Here's the link: http://w11.zetaboards.com/Trainz_Commuter_Rail/pages/dl_loco2/ (scroll about half way down)

Srr89's stuff is just updated versions of robin-hoods's and I have the same issues with those.

Edit: The creator on there is listed as prr1361, which I'm pretty sure is the same person as srr89 (different sites, different usernames? The author shows up as srr89 in CM).

 

[Bill69]

Found the same locos in Trainz Commuter Rail site and it just links me back to TPR.

I could update them but need permission from robin-hoods.

I'll leave it to captainkman at the moment. He can contact me if he needs help.

Cheers,
Bill69

 

[gb1290]

Huh...when I click on the download link, I get a zip file.

I appreciate your help! I'll keep tinkering and see what Kieran comes up with.

 

[captainkman]

I'm going to have to register at TPR before I can download the files, but once I have them I'll start tinkering.

Kieran.

 

[gb1290]

I just made a discovery: apparently the wheels only spin out of control in cab mode. They don't do that in DCC mode. I really have no idea what to make of this discovery, but maybe it will help someone help me.

 

[captainkman]

I fixed the problem with coal and water not going into the locomotive.

The coal and water queues, whilst present, were named incorrectly.

The original was:

queues
{
  load1
  {
    size                                16878
    initial-count                       16878
    
    allowed-categories
    {
      0                                 <kuid:-3:10040>
    }
    product-kuid                        <kuid:44179:60013>
  }
  
  load2
  {
    size                                37850
    initial-count                       37850
    
    allowed-categories
    {
      0                                 <kuid:-3:10044>
    }
    product-kuid                        <kuid:-3:10004>
  }
}

Whereas for it to be consumable by the locomotive, it has to be:

queues
{
  load-coal
  {
    size                                16878
    initial-count                       16878
    
    allowed-categories
    {
      0                                 <kuid:-3:10040>
    }
    product-kuid                        <kuid:44179:60013>
  }
  
  load-water
  {
    size                                37850
    initial-count                       37850
    
    allowed-categories
    {
      0                                 <kuid:-3:10044>
    }
    product-kuid                        <kuid:-3:10004>
  }
}

All I've done is re-name the coal and water queues themselves. If you replace the wrong queue with the correct names then you will be able to feed coal and water into the locomotive.

Now onto the wheels.

Edit: It seems as if the wheel problem may be one of those unexplained Trainz oddities. I have the problem on Trainboi1's 7F 2-8-0's and I've heard of it on some TrainzItalia locomotives, I think it was the Big Boys.

Kieran.

 

[gb1290]

Thanks! You have been very helpful.