SD70ACe-T4 Revealed

ThePoliceman009

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http://www.progressrail.com/cda/layout?m=692708&x=7&id=4880296
Brand new Tier-4 complient locomotive just released by Progress Rail. According to them, the model should start rolling out by mid-2016.

Here's a picture of the locomotive in question (sorry large pic, not mine):

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man is this thing ugly railroads aren't what they used to be.

I agree. They're more efficient, safer, faster, better for the environment, cheaper to use and better equipped to deal with whatever the earth or people throw at them.
 
Because (barely) similar cab design is a forgone conclusion that no engineering development and progress have been made in 8 years.


Okay.
 
It says in the article that it is powered by a new engine: the EMD 1010. That results in several questions: is it a two stroke or four stroke engine? Was the 710 or 265H the starting point in creating this new engine? If the 265H was the starting point, will that effect sales, based on previous experience with the 265H? Does each cylinder displace 1,010 cubic inches of air (which is how the 710 and its predecessors got their name) or does the name mean something else?
 
It's probably the EMD paint scheme which is make this look weird. I'm sure once it's painted up properly for a road somewhere it'll look a lot better.

There's nothing wrong with going energy efficient. It'll mean being able to get more out of the engine with less fuel consumption.

John
 
What? that statement makes no sense at all. The cab is just like the successful 2nd gen SD70M cab and is pretty nice but either way how does the cab reminding you of an MK5000 mean anything about the operation of the locomotive?
Go ask BNSF how the SD70ACe-P4's worked out, and then report back. I think you'll find out that the P4's are lemons. SD70AH's are SD70ACes with the fancy gadgets like ES44AH.

the EMD 1010. That results in several questions: is it a two stroke or four stroke engine? Was the 710 or 265H the starting point in creating this new engine? If the 265H was the starting point, will that effect sales, based on previous experience with the 265H? Does each cylinder displace 1,010 cubic inches of air (which is how the 710 and its predecessors got their name) or does the name mean something else?
Per sources, EMD 1010 engine is 4-stroke. I can't confirm if 265 or 710 was the starting point, it may very well be a completely new design, but much discussion has information not confirmed saying it originates from the 265H.
Issue is going to be the same issue for GE.
Powershortage is still in effect from last year, difference is, there is enough power to handle the trains currently running now, as rail traffic is down significantly all the way across the board. EMD is way too late to this party because A: GE's T4 unit is already out there and B: There is 0 need for new locomotives right now. GE is going to face the same issue because railroads don't need the new power as all it will do is add cost. If traffic picks up again, then GE will probably control the entire market because EMD's model won't be ready for actual production until sometime next year, which by then GE will have made enough to satisfy the needs.
Second, will Railroads jump forward with these, or pull stuff from storage that just needs some routine maintenance and is ready to go? When the brunt of the powershortage caught up with RR's last year, I seen stuff pulled from storage and running around that I haven't seen doing those jobs in at least 12 years. While that fleet is back in storage for now, just as easily as ordering new locomotives (Which did happen, UP recently got delievery of some of the last T3 GEVO's made.) With that being said, there's not a market right now for new locomotives, which is going to screw EMD over because they're too late.
 
Go ask BNSF how the SD70ACe-P4's worked out, and then report back. I think you'll find out that the P4's are lemons.

Even if the P4 were a failure (which it wasnt) that still has nothing to do with my question. It seemed as if you were implying that somehow the cab appearance had something to do with whether or not it would be a successful machine. I didn't mention the P4s at all and dont see how it is related.

SD70AH's are SD70ACes with the fancy gadgets like ES44AH.

Fancy gadgets like weight? H means it has added weight on the drivers or 'heavy'.

is it a two stroke or four stroke engine?

it is a 4 stroke.

Was the 710 or 265H the starting point in creating this new engine?

265H

If the 265H was the starting point, will that effect sales, based on previous experience with the 265H?

the 265 has been very successful in several applications and has had enough time to work out any flaws that may have existed on the original H models.

Does each cylinder displace 1,010 cubic inches of air (which is how the 710 and its predecessors got their name) or does the name mean something else?

Yes it does displace 1,010 cubic inches per cylinder, just as the 265H did.
 
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Yes it does displace 1,010 cubic inches per cylinder, just as the 265H did.

Sorry about resurrecting this thread, but the 265H got its name because the cylinder's bore is 265 millimeters. Also, I've found a video made by Progress Rail, parent company of EMD, about the SD70ACe-T4.

 
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