Scenery Object Rotation Not yz rotation

[DennR]

I have been asked to create a session with a Train Wreck.
I have been provided with loco, tender, boxcar and caboose all set in the standing position.
I have very irregular terrain and want to place the scenery objects facing the correct way (rotate yz) but!
I also want to be able to rotate them to lie on their side so fix the y axis and rotate the z axis through a range of -150, 150.
Is that possible given that I am no way an asset creator but could edit a config file if the available containers would allow this feature.
I should add that the session and assets need to be lower than build 4.5 to be TANE compatible.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice on what might be a stupid question.

 

[G.M.]

Hidden track and extreme superelevation will allow you to lay them on their side
if you want to rotate or move meshes (in mesh-table)
orientation x,y,z in radiants
position x,y,z in meters

ciao GM

 

[stagecoach]

They need to be scenery objects and you add "rotate-yz-range -150,150" to the config file. This only works on other people's routes if they don't attempt to move it or have the same config file in the asset.

 

[DennR]

Thanks for the replies, @GM the items are scenery items and I an not sure that they can be placed on track but I will tryand see what happens, I think I will avoid looking at meshes as that is well above my pay grade.
@stagecoach the config file already has the "rotate-yz-range -180,180" in it but what I am trying to do to rotate the item (loco, tender etc) from the vertical to lying on it's side.

 

[crisger]

hi guys,
we dont need them on track that is the whole point of making them scenery objects. i will ask Paul who made them for me about the rotation that Bob needs. I am pretty sure it is just an INI entry and i can actually ask Paul to do it for us and send it to me and then to Bob
thanks for the replies much appreciated.
Chris

 

[crisger]

i checked the files for the models for these scenery wrecked cars and loco and tender and they already have that entry in the config

height-range -150,150
rotate-yz-range -180,180

i wonder if we have to add another entry rotate-xy-range or rotate-xz to be able to lay them on their sides ... I was able to do that when i tested them 2 years ago but i dont remember what i did then.

 

[RPearson]

Thanks for the replies, @GM the items are scenery items and I an not sure that they can be placed on track but I will tryand see what happens, I think I will avoid looking at meshes as that is well above my pay grade.
@stagecoach the config file already has the "rotate-yz-range -180,180" in it but what I am trying to do to rotate the item (loco, tender etc) from the vertical to lying on it's side.

Yes, this can be done by adding both the rotate-yz-range tag to the asset's config and an orientation tag to the mesh-table. However, train vehicles converted to scenery assets should have the y axis of the mesh along the length of the vehicle so rolling about the y axis should do what you want to accomplish. For assets where the y axis is not oriented like this in the mesh you can add an orientation tag in the mesh table to make it work.

The "rotate-yz-range" tag rotates ("rolls") the object about the object's y axis. To effectively switch the x and y axes so the object will look as if it pitches about its x axis, you can add the orientation tag to the mesh in the mesh-table in the config file. I think you have to do it to all the LOD meshes if the object has any.

I did it to a scenery bridge to allow it to "pitch" +/- 5 deg about the horizontal axis to match the track grade. The original y axis was aligned with the length of the bridge structure so had to be rotated 90 deg (pi/2 radians) about the z axis:

rotate-yz-range -5,5
rollstep 0.02

mesh-table
{
default
{
mesh "Part_1.im"
orientation 0,0,1.570796
auto-create 1
}
}

The bridge is TB 2.9 and this works in any version of Trainz since at least TRS10

Bob Pearson

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

If it has a rotate-yz-range tag already in its config, press the Shift key when rotating in Surveyor to make it “roll” in the yz plane.

 

[DennR]

If it has a rotate-yz-range tag already in its config, press the Shift key when rotating in Surveyor to make it “roll” in the yz plane.

You are absolutely right, I had just worked that out and was about to post this apology for my ignorance: -

"Sorry guys,

The assets have the feature built in. It was me being Dumb.


to rotate the asset it is cont+left mouse button and to tip it on its side it is shift+left mouse buttonand the container in the config is
height-range -150,150
rotate-yz-range -180,180"

Thanks everyone another win for the Trainz community.

 

[crisger]

ah Bob just figured it out it involved using the correct keys in surveyor thanks guys for your posts.

Chris