Route and Session Cancer

[JimBrand]

I have been working a largely expanded "Industrial Wasteland Route" foe years. I am at the point where landscaping and tweaking are all that is left to do. I run 92 AI trains to service about 45-55 industries. Suddenly this past week things began to unravel. Opening my route and session to drive the session I noticed in the message window 8 events of the worthless message "no path to destination" What? What train? what destination? Anyway I exited driver to scan the tracks for faults. I found many broken splines, mostly at junctions and bridges. Any consists sitting over these splines had lost there cars as well. I spent an 8 hour day in fix it mode. I saved and went to bed. The next morning I opened the session for edit and now I have more broken splines and whole consists missing. Another repair day and I noticed that many of my consists which were all originally in the session layer were now on the hidden layer with route layer as the bound layer or in other layer combinations. I spend much of the day putting them back in the session layer then go on to find my broken spline. Today I opened up the route and session only to find industries, textures and consists missing.

Am I going NUTS or is this really happening? Anyone, Is there anyone out there who knows why my layout is self destructing?

 

[pware]

While I have no personal experience of this nightmare happening to me, I seem to recall a few similar posts on these forums. Some of the causes/solutions that I seem to remember (and at my age memory is not a high priority ) were:-

• possible corrupted Trainz DB - have you run an Extended DB repair?
• possible corrupted Trainz install - backup and reinstall
• possible corrupted HDD/RAM - major, major headaches

 

[clam1952]

I'd start with checking option 3 first, the hard disk, anything else will probably make things worse if it's a disk problem, may not be terminal may just be file corruption.

 

[llebrez]

1) Everything I modify, change, add or correct in a session, I transpose to the corresponding route. That is my basis to start all over again when the sessions get corrupted.
2) At one time or another, the sessions or layers will go corrupted. It has happened to me and to may others.
3) You did a back-up somewhere along the line, did you? Me, and I know many other of us, back-up everything routinely. I do it to a flash drive that is not normally connected to the computer.. just in case.

I hope your back-up can work and restore things to normality. If not.. I go the draconian way: If things can't be restored, I uninstall the game completely, re-load everything and copy the local folder back into the game. That works 99% of the times. The other 1% ? change your computer (sorry to be somewhat negative...)

 

[JimBrand]

Thanks all,. I have been super careful to only have consists in my session. The route is every thing else. I do have good backups of my user data file folder. Guess I'll continue to play Sherlock Holmes until I discover a reason! Anyhow, that's half the fun of Trainz!

 

[WildWillyWacko]

1) Everything I modify, change, add or correct in a session, I transpose to the corresponding route. That is my basis to start all over again when the sessions get corrupted.
2) At one time or another, the sessions or layers will go corrupted. It has happened to me and to may others.
3) You did a back-up somewhere along the line, did you? Me, and I know many other of us, back-up everything routinely. I do it to a flash drive that is not normally connected to the computer.. just in case.

I hope your back-up can work and restore things to normality. If not.. I go the draconian way: If things can't be restored, I uninstall the game completely, re-load everything and copy the local folder back into the game. That works 99% of the times. The other 1% ? change your computer (sorry to be somewhat negative...)

What is " local folder " please?

Wild Willy the Wacko

 

[JCitron]

What is " local folder " please?

Wild Willy the Wacko

More specifically the N3V/TS12/User Data. This is where all your data is kept. You lose this and you lose everything you downloaded, installed, or created.

Back this folder up and backup often.

John

 

[WildWillyWacko]

More specifically the N3V/TS12/User Data. This is where all your data is kept. You lose this and you lose everything you downloaded, installed, or created.

Back this folder up and backup often.

John

Thanks, John, I've asked where to find things so I could transfer my stuff from machine to machine without hosing up the install on the " to " machine and had not gotten an answer and " everything you downloaded, installed, or created " sounds like the info I wanted and didn't get.

Since, except for the new "auto-complete" feature, computers have been very unforgiving and using improper terminology like " local folder ", just don't get me where I need to be!

Have a good one!

Wild Willy the Wacko

 

[JCitron]

Thanks, John, I've asked where to find things so I could transfer my stuff from machine to machine without hosing up the install on the " to " machine and had not gotten an answer and " everything you downloaded, installed, or created " sounds like the info I wanted and didn't get.

Since, except for the new "auto-complete" feature, computers have been very unforgiving and using improper terminology like " local folder ", just don't get me where I need to be!

Have a good one!

Wild Willy the Wacko

Hey, you're welcome and have a great day yourself. I agree with all the wizards and things to make using computers easier, they make it difficult at the same time.

There's one thing I'd like to add, which you might find even easier.

Make a full backup of your Trainz TS12 install, lock, stock and barrel, of the complete kit and kabootle to a backup drive. I use one of those GoFlex 3TB drives and backup my N3V/TS12 path with everything under it. It's a manual copy method, nothing fancy, and I can be sure I have everything backed up.

With the whole folder backed up, you can easily transfer the whole thing to the new computer. Simple copy and paste to C:\N3V\TS12 or even to a D: drive or elsewhere if you wish; it doesn't have to be on the C: drive under Program Files (x86)\N3V\... etc. Once this is done, create shortcuts for the Launcher, and Content Manager, and place them on the desktop. You'll have to fiddle with the new computer to tell it what to do with cdp files, and maybe set permissions, but we can get there once the other parts are done.

I've done this with a few installs over the years, even going from Windows 7 to Windows 8, then upgraded to Windows 8.1, and now I'm testing the same install on Windows 10. How spiffy is that!

John