Raising a baseboard and everything on it

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Mick_Berg

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I would like to merge a route I made at a baseboard height of 0m with another route that is at 12.5m at the point where I want to merge. Is it possible to raise the 0m route's baseboards (there's only about 10 of them) to 12.5m, including everything in the route?
Otherwise I think I'm hosed..........
Thanks,
Mick Berg.
 
Nope. The best thing you can do is add a few transition boards between the low and high routes and run a gradient of tracks between them.

Bill
 
HiBaller said:
Nope. The best thing you can do is add a few transition boards between the low and high routes and run a gradient of tracks between them.

Bill
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Well that would be OK if I was willing to create a whole new area of London between Kings Cross and Kings Cross Thameslink!:hehe:

There's not much stuff in the low-level route, it won't kill me to manually raise it piece by piece, but it wasn't how I intended to spend the next few days of Trainz time........:(

I'll start doing that after I have found all my consists, that ended up in totally weird places after the merge. One train that should have been patiently waiting at a platform at Finsbury Park was eventually found hiding in the York Road tunnel!

Thanks,
Mick.
 
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If you move the splines, tracks and scenery, I think you'll find that building and trees go up automatically, if you manually make it 12.5m with the radius set high

Jamie
 
Mick_Berg said:
I would like to merge a route I made at a baseboard height of 0m with another route that is at 12.5m at the point where I want to merge. Is it possible to raise the 0m route's baseboards (there's only about 10 of them) to 12.5m, including everything in the route?
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TransDEM can do it.
 
TransDEM main menu bar: Trainz | Adjust elevations in entire route...

For TRS2006 and above, route must have been opened for editing in Trainz Content Manager but the route does not have to be created by TransDEM in the fist place.


TransDEM can raise or lower the baseboards and everything on top (hopefully) but it cannot rotate baseboards to compensate for "North misalignment".

It can, however, shift baseboards horizontally for a newly created route away from their default static coordinate position. This may help to bridge gaps when merging with other route modules largely built to scale.
 
geophil said:
TransDEM main menu bar: Trainz | Adjust elevations in entire route...

For TRS2006 and above, route must have been opened for editing in Trainz Content Manager but the route does not have to be created by TransDEM in the fist place.


TransDEM can raise or lower the baseboards and everything on top (hopefully) but it cannot rotate baseboards to compensate for "North misalignment".

It can, however, shift baseboards horizontally for a newly created route away from their default static coordinate position. This may help to bridge gaps when merging with other route modules largely built to scale.
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That's good to know. I will have to resurrect my Transdem and get up to speed with it, that will take a while. I'll report back.
Will Transdem raise the level of tunnels? That's what the route mainly consists of.
Thanks,
Mick.
 
Is there actual terrain on the baseboards that you don't want to lose or is it just "stuff" on the surface of a flat baseboard? If it is just stuff, since you cannot copy and paste between routes, you can create a new baseboard within the existing route and adjust its height to the 12.5 and paste everything on it. Repeat for all the other baseboards in the layout, then delete the original ones. Now the old route is at the 12.5 level on the new baseboards, and you can merge the other route to it.

If there is existing terrain (elevations) that you want to preserve, you are hosed.
 
HiBaller said:
Not necessarily. If you're doing this in 2010, you can paste elevations also along with tracks, textures and objects.

Bill
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Not to hijack - but is there a limit on the amount of materials that can be pasted. Also, it will not paste track into the new elevation, so this has to be adjusted manually for each node.

But . . . you can flip the orientation of the paste. So . . . you could raise the baseboard in TransDEM, merge onto your layout, then if needed adjust the orientation via pasting.
 
I have cheated and sloped the ground gently down from the high to the low area. Not ideal but the alternatives are too much work. After all this is supposed to be a hobby, isn't it?
Thanks for all the suggestions,
Mick Berg.
 
HiBaller said:
Not necessarily. If you're doing this in 2010, you can paste elevations also along with tracks, textures and objects.

Bill
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But pasting the elevations pastes the ACTUAL elevations, not the RELATIVE elevations, right? Pasting a height of 3 from a 0m baseboard onto a 12.5m baseboard gives a height of 3 again, not 15.5, so it sort of defeats the purpose. Right?
 
True. I've pasted elevations, but only as you say: from the higher route to the lower in order to match elevations for a connect later.

Actually, having an option to set actual or relative would be a great improvement.

Bill
 
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